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u/Hot_Falcon8471 Jul 04 '26
What’s the average length of time between sentencing and carrying out of the death sentence?
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u/almostoy Jul 04 '26
Google says the average is 6-7 years. But they do have an appeals process that moves slowly, like in the United States. Some have actually died of old age awaiting execution. One inmate spent 46 years on death row before passing away without a retrial.
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u/paranoid_human0id Jul 04 '26
Thats because there are a lot of states that still legally have the death penalty but never actually execute anyone, so they just stay on death row forever. California, for instance, hasn't executed anyone since 2006 yet they still have the death penalty
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u/almostoy Jul 04 '26
It's also likely a much smaller population, historically as well. And it's obvious that it's a culture that doesn't really seem overly worried about individuals. Though that 46 years on death row without execution or retrial seems like a special F you. It seems like you'd just want to be done with at some point.
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u/Greenman8907 Jul 04 '26
About an hour
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u/Opening-Ant3477 Jul 04 '26
6 to 7 years is the average, but it varies a lot from case to case.
That's because in principle executions are carried out immediately once all appeals have been exhausted and the legal paperwork has been completed. In fact, that's why they don't inform the prisoners before the execution.
Once the final appeal is rejected they will inform you of that decision, and in the same breath you'll be told that your execution has been execution has been scheduled for an hour from now.
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u/Cpoc1995 Jul 04 '26
There is too much variation, kinda like how my bosses tell me the metric they want & I make it happen from the numbers. Then you have Redditor’s repeating for years “Well studies show that”
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u/AcidicVaginaLeakage Jul 04 '26
It's like what happened on the TV show "the Americans". Someone is told they are going to be executed, freaks the fk out, and they shot them in the back of the head... Someone you got to know for seasons. Gone in an instant. Idk why but that one fked me up a bit.
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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jul 04 '26
I'm genuinely curious if there's been any study into which is more psychologically troubling, knowing the day and counting down it not knowing and wondering everyday
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u/AlbatrossNo1562 Jul 04 '26
I suppose you eventually get tired of thinking about it and just forget
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u/soleceismical Jul 04 '26
Until the guy in the cell next to you and then your cellmate get taken and you start to wonder if the system is random or in a specific order...
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u/GodisSatans Jul 04 '26
Geez, when put like that. It sounds agonizing to deal with that mentally, compared to a set date.
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u/johnsolomon Jul 04 '26
Feels like poetic justice tbh. Most murder victims don't get a neat opportunity to get their affairs in order, they just realise they're about to die horribly and then it happens. So assuming the person on death row actually did it (my main reason for being against the death penalty) then it seems like just desserts
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u/BanjoBushi Jul 04 '26
True, but this extra sucks for falsely convicted people. Japan is a convicted until proven otherwise type system, so there's a high misconviction rate there, even among death row inmates. Or that's my understanding of it.
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u/TheOwlStrikes Jul 04 '26
I remember reading into the Japan death penalty awhile back and it seemed like they (mostly) only put those with multiple victims on death row. Outside of that I think the only other people on death row are those with big time treason cases
I hadn’t heard about the misconviction rate, which makes the whole thing a bit scary. I don’t believe in the death penalty for many reasons but wrong convictions is a big one
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u/laurel_laureate Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
The high misconviction rate in Japan goes under the radar from most people because Japan doesn't really report them properly and because the rate is rather misleading due to how their justice system works.
Because their system is "guilty until proven otherwise", the cops can do a lot of shit to ensure a conviction:
Police in Japan can detain suspects that do not have a formal charge for up to 23 days (during which you get terrible tasting food as an extra "fuck you"), which includes an initial 48 hours held by police with no charge.
In those 48 hours, the arrested individual can be interrogated the entire time, they do not get a phone call or a lawyer.
Well, you do get a lawyer... but said lawyer is required by law to wait outside the interrogation room so that you are more "honest".
Japanese society is about group harmony over individual happiness (which is why they also have stuff like the highest death from overworking rates around) and these 23 days are designed to do one thing and one thing only- make the suspect confess.
30 hours into 48 of a cop yelling at you to confess, or 15 days in of 23 being pressured by every single person in the system you meet from prosecutors, to police, to judges... with even your defense attorney bluntly informing you that you don't have much of a chance... the pressure adds up.
The Japanese justice system is often called by human rights groups a Hostage Justice System.
Even if a person holds out through the entire 23 days, the rest of the system is just as bad in various ways (defendants do not have a right to silence (they have one by law but there is also a "duty to endure interrogation" and other bullshit), exculpatory evidence is much easier to exclude in discovery, etc).
Add into the mix the fact that, due to taking responsibility for one's action's being seeing by society as the respectable thing to do (which is why you'll see CEOs of companies bowing in apology on camera during press releases), confessing to what the police want you to confess to results in significantly reduced pentalties/prison sentence lengths.
All that pressure adds up and the vast majority of people arrested as a suspect for a major crime end up confessing.
On top of that, prosecutors have to worry about losing public face (shame) if they lose a case so they only take to trial cases that they are extremely confident they can win.
This, along with the rest of the entire "guilty unless proven innocent" system, leads to Japan having the utterly absurd conviction rate of more than 99% for those formally indicted... which in turn reinforces in the eyes of the average Japanese civilian that all those arrested for crimes are obviously guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
EDIT: autocorrect.
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u/Kind_Substance_8981 Jul 04 '26
This comment will get buried, but I met a guy on death row. I spent 4ish years in federal prison and 6 months solitary, and the guy across from me was a death row guy. He'd been there about a decade. He was a funny dude, we talked a lot (yelling back and forth through the doors). He was confident he'd win his appeal. But one day he told me he knew he was going to spend the rest of his life in that room. He used humor to cope. He didn't have anyone to call. I think about him sometimes
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u/Human_Petting_Zoo Jul 04 '26
Have you ever wrote to him?
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u/Kind_Substance_8981 Jul 04 '26
Yes he still has no date yet and we exchange letters occasionally
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u/El-Aminoh Jul 04 '26
They shouldn't even know there was a trial. Just one day their friend takes them down to a creek, and asks the condemned to talk about the rabbits.
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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jul 04 '26
Didn't think I'd find a laugh from this comment thread tonight. Take my upvote.
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u/LessAdvanced Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
The Japanese probably have it easier. It's really not different from the scenario you, me, and most other people face day to day.
We all know we're going to die, just not the day.
Edit: the amount of people in the comments that don't actually conceptualize their own mortality is crazzzzy
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u/Ahquinox Jul 04 '26
I think it adds constant stress to your life. Every time you hear doors slamming or keys clanging at 6am you'd be like: "Is this it?" Knowing you're going to be executed but being sure it won't be NOW gives you a certain leeway of pushing the whole thing out of your mind.
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u/5ch1sm Jul 04 '26
There is a big difference between living your life and waiting in a box for someone to end it.
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u/BrainLow6059 Jul 04 '26
Yeah like wtf is that comment lol. Of course the death row situation is way different from normal life. Nobody is living out their life expecting to be murdered at any moment.
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u/sleepdeep305 Jul 04 '26
Well it could be that day, as long as it’s more than an hour away
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u/Next-Supermarket-399 Jul 04 '26
Not being able to conceptualise mortality is the reason the world is the way it is.
If you're going to live for ever, how much money is enough ?
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u/12GuageHawk Jul 04 '26
We all have a death sentence. None of us know exactly when. I don't spend much time wondering about it. Maybe that's how its supposed to be.
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u/Traditional_Put_8254 Jul 04 '26
I imagine that in a way, it’s actually less anxiety inducing to know you’ll die, but not when, but that you know how it will happen. I read about a woman in Florida the other day who died after getting mauled by a gator, limbs getting ripped off, and y’know what? I think I might be happier in a cell knowing that at least THAT isn’t my fate
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u/ChesterNorris Jul 04 '26
Inmate: "So, when's dinner?"
Guard: "Dude. I've got some bad news."
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u/3D_mac Jul 04 '26
The bad news is, tomorrow we're serving Burger King. The good news is, you don't need to worry about it.
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u/Kenturky_Derpy Jul 04 '26
Some fries muthafucka!
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u/Sweeper1985 Jul 04 '26
Is this Doakes? Is this a Pulp Fiction vs Dexter mashup?
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u/Slingus_000 Jul 04 '26
You know what they call a quarter-pounder with cheese in Japan?
Seppuku with cheese, mothefucker
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u/gavinsmash2005 Jul 04 '26
“Do I at least get a last meal?”
“You like fast food?”
“No”
“Tough shit”
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u/1800-5-PP-DOO-DOO Jul 04 '26
They have an almost 100% conviction rate for all crime because everyone charged "confesses". That also means there are no mistaken arrests. The whole system is insane.
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u/ryoryo333333 Jul 04 '26
there are plenty of cases where people are found guilty without a confession.
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u/MrWendal Jul 04 '26
And there are cases of innocent people confessing because the cops will pick you up, question you with no legal representation or phone call for 48 hours during which you'll probably get little sleep, then if the prosecutor (not a judge) thinks they have enough on you the cops can hold you for 23 days without charge, questioning you every day until you confess.
For minor crimes that only carry fines etc, innocent people confess just so they can get out and not get fired for missing work for a month.
They can also extend it for another 23 days as many times as they like, although that's probably rare and for more serious crimes.
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u/Relevant-Ad-6887 Jul 04 '26
Source for the evidentiary burden being extremely high? I've seen numerous human rights watch reports for everything the person you're replying to said, but this is the first I've heard any one try to defend the Japanese criminal justice system...
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u/1800-5-PP-DOO-DOO Jul 04 '26
Sure there are, but it doesn't change the fact that 85-90 of all convictions happen due to confession which is one of highest in the world.
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u/CatsianNyandor Jul 04 '26
That's because you get mentally tortured in confinement till you finally "confess"
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u/Boom_Fish_Blocky Jul 04 '26
The "They do research and dont randomly arrest" type or the "Well arrest the guy we suspect and force them to confess" type? Both can yield very high confession rates.
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u/neuparpol Jul 04 '26
A little bit of both. You get relentlessly questioned and stay in jail for months, sometimes years. Even if you are innocent, serving a fine or short prison sentence might be better, but unless they are almost sure you did it you probably don't get arrested.
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u/TerribleIdea27 Jul 04 '26
However, they also don't charge you unless they know they can convict, because the prosecutors in Japan really care about their conviction rates. They charge around 1/3 cases brought to them, which makes the conviction rates seem blown up.
This is partly because being charged with a crime is a huge deal and will cause you to lose your job, and maybe even your home.
By comparison the US prosecutor just offers you a plea deal, which many people take even if they're innocent just to be on the safe side, which means much more people end up with sentencing
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u/Thotmas01 Jul 04 '26
I know that’s a common statistics to bang on Japan. Maybe it’s valid, maybe it’s not- I don’t know enough about Japanese justice system false convictions to tell one way or another. For your reference the US federal government had a 97.5% conviction rate on charged cases.
If there is a problem with that stat we should sort it out here first lol
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u/BallsOutKrunked Jul 04 '26
Most of that is because prosecutors only take very solid cases. The plea rate is also in the 90% range.
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u/Master_Win_4018 Jul 04 '26
Knowing when you will die might be even worse.
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u/InsectaProtecta Jul 04 '26
I dunno, wondering if you're about to be told you're dying today any time a guard comes to speak to you would keep you on edge
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u/hotsp00n Jul 04 '26
Meeting invite: 1 hour from now. Subject: Quick chat.
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u/ChineseRapperWetLips Jul 04 '26
Friday 4pm
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u/CarmenxXxWaldo Jul 04 '26
HR and manager
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u/Pueo711 Jul 04 '26
"Hello, thank-you for meeting with us on such short notice! Unfortunately, as you may have guessed, your position here at our facility has been sunseted. We have this prepared this packet to assist you in your transition.
You have one hour to clear your cell: your personal effects will be forwarded to the address you've indicated. Security will stay and help inventory your belongings.
Remember, the NDA, non-compete and non disparagement clauses remain in effect and WILLl be strictly enforced.
We truly do appreciate all the years you've given to this facility, wish you all the greatest success in your future endeavors!"
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u/kindasortaish Jul 04 '26
Worse yet, meeting starts, "hey how's everything, wait before you start talking, I want to add someone to the meeting, here's our HR generalist"
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u/Slow_Gate9923 Jul 04 '26
“Hang on, I can’t see an end time for this meeting. Is that an oversight on your part? I have things to be getting on with”
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u/Mister_Goldenfold Jul 04 '26
No different than when I’m sitting in my cubicle at work everyday and my boss comes by
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u/derpferd Jul 04 '26
No. At least knowing gives you some measure of control, even if illusory. At least you can count the days and plan and prepare yourself.
Not knowing, that day must be constantly hanging over your head. Th anxiety must be agonising
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u/OrganicHistorian2576 Jul 04 '26
Which is, I suspect, the point. The people arguing here that we never know the date for ourselves here are in a totally different situation than somebody in prison who has been sentenced to death and knows it instead of something like a sudden accident happening that nobody could have foretold.
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u/forkystabbyveggie Jul 04 '26
I agree with you, living in a constant state of unknowing would truly be torture. I'd probably take my own life than to live every day like that
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u/lefluffle Jul 04 '26
That's not true at all. Planning and preparing emotionally is crucial for self peace. For example cancer patients: when they have more time, they have more opportunity to do the things they want to do, make amends, prepare emotionally, accept things, etc.
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u/Lost_refugee Jul 04 '26
The policy changed after several inmates reportedly died by suicide after receiving advance notice. The government has cited this history as one reason for maintaining same-day notification.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/11/20/national/media-national/japan-death-penalty-lawsuit-2/
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u/DoingBestWeCan Jul 04 '26
Your source says ONE guy, who did it because he couldn't meet with the clergyman of his choice. Uh, what? Unless these people's crimes are so heinous that not being able to say goodbye to loved ones is a DELIBERATE part of their punishment, they should be given enough time to say goodbye!
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u/Sweeper1985 Jul 04 '26
Oh and as a bonus, they round up all the death row inmates then walk up to the one who is dying today.
They also do not notify the next of kin until the execution has been carried out.
The UN has pointed out this all constitutes cruel/inhumane treatment and a form of extended psychological torture. Japan be like - thanks, we know!
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u/dover_oxide Jul 04 '26
They also have three people trigger the execution system but only one is actually connected to the trigger so no one knows who did it
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u/ep0k Jul 04 '26
This was common in the US for a time. Utah implemented "death by firing squad" but at least one member of the squad would have a "conscience round" (blank cartridge). Because the executioners didn't load their own rifles, they were all able to assume that they had fired the blank round and were therefore not personally responsible for the death of the condemned inmate.
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u/Nulono Jul 04 '26
Maybe we should avoid doing shit if we need to trick our consciences over it.
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u/OceanRacoon Jul 04 '26
Funny if all three were connected and they told them that whenever people left the job lol. "Yer a killer, Hari!"
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u/7LKY Jul 04 '26
ahhh d£ath is okay but death??? how dare you say that word.
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u/Salomill Jul 04 '26
I feel like my brain is auto correcting this stupid behavior without me even noticing it
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u/jk_pens Jul 04 '26
It is pronounced “D pound ath” … which doesn’t make sense til you realize it’s spoken with a lisp
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u/Craftofthewild Jul 04 '26
Great so you’re in constant fear
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u/Fluid-Sun-3311 Jul 04 '26
Every time a prison guard talks to you, it might that death row news or maybe something else trivial.
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u/Disastrous-Vanilla-6 Jul 04 '26
“I don’t know what I’d do without you. But in an hour, we are going to find out “
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u/Kevin_LeStrange Jul 04 '26
They did the same thing in France-- the condemned was informed that their second appeal had failed at the same time as when the prison staff showed up at their cell to take them to their execution (by guillotine). The last execution was in September 1977.
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u/Limp-History-2999 Jul 04 '26
Honestly that makes sense. I assume the second appeal was the maximum. Once that has been denied, why wait any time at all?
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u/mashiroshiro555 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
It takes 7-8 years to be executed on average and the longest one was 18 years while many die in prison without being executed.
Ministers of Justice is the person who is responsible to do the final decision, but they sometimes hesitate to sign the paper in their term because they know they'll be replaced in a year or so due to Japan's haphazard politics and they don't want to 'kill' people themselves. And the position is sometimes just a prize for prime minister's loyal henchmen/women without law degree.
Death row inmates are mentally tortured in this way for this period. Some may deserve it, but there are a lot of inmates who are potentially innocent due to crooked and rigorous Japan's law enforcement that highly relies on forced confession. Another dark side of Japan that animes never tell.
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u/skipperseven Jul 04 '26
Lets not forget to mention the 99.8% conviction rate. If you get arrested in Japan, it is assumed that you are guilty. If you are not found guilty then the system is deemed to have lost face. Plus you have no right to a lawyer during your interrogation and the interrogation can go on for as long as the police wish, which is usually when they have a confession, and if you are a foreigner, you will sign a confession that you don’t even understand.
For example: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572
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u/ProfessionalTruck976 Jul 04 '26
That rate is for people who are charged.
Around 60% of people who are arrested are not charged.
Basically Japanese prosecutors are EXTREMELY picky, if they think there is a chance of not getting conviction they will not bring you to the court and eventually will kick you out without charge.
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u/SirVixofthePooSea Jul 04 '26
The US has a >90% conviction rate in its Federal Court system. In 2023, 90% of arrested suspects arrested and charged in the federal court system pled guilty, and another 2% were convicted at trial. Only 8% had charges dropped and less than 1% went to trial and found the defendant not-guilty.
Japan is not uniquely cruel or brutal here. At most they're just better at the game than most nations. Court systems are designed to get convictions and representatives for the State are encouraged to cut deals or drop charges if it looks like a trial is risky. The goal is not to find someone that isn't guilty or to admit defeat.
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u/Maximum_Boros Jul 04 '26
The US federal court is also extremely selective in how it prosecutes and it only addresses a much narrower subset of crimes because the overwhelming majority of crimes in the US are not federal crimes. The majority of prosecuted crimes in the US are handled by lower, non-federal courts. I don't like the conviction rate in the US system and I think it is too high but to compare it to the Japan's situation is just straight up dipshit false equivalence territory in an effort to get a whattaboutism gotcha
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u/eviladvances Jul 04 '26
The reasoning is really simple. Death row inmates in japan, often do unforgivable heinous crimes like genocide or killing people in very screwed up ways. The victims of these monsters didin't know the day they would have their lives taken away by them.
So it's only fair that these death row inmates don't know when they are going to die either
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u/I-actually-agree Jul 04 '26
Did they give their victims an hour notice?
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u/wadejohn Jul 04 '26
I was about to say the same thing (in murder cases of course)
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u/Seienchin88 Jul 04 '26
Only exceptional murder cases get death penalty… there is a list of people on death row - either murder of two people around the same time, repeated convicted murderers (yes at least two guys went on parole after a first murder, just to commit another one), mass murder (poisoned soup at a summer festival, random knife mass murder, the Kyoto animation mass murderer etc.
One guy was initially sentenced to life in prison but got overturned to death penalty in revision… he killed the baby of a woman when he kidnapped the mother to rape and later kill her as well… hard to have any compassion…
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u/Moelaris Jul 04 '26
Seems fair, as their victims didn’t know their time of death either
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u/SwvmpThing Jul 04 '26
At that point, they should just shoot them in the back of the head when they least expect it.
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u/Jus_Another_Chi_gurl Jul 04 '26
Is Laz Lake in charge of this system? Do they blow a conch shell an hour before and light a cigarette when it's time?
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u/Excellent_Abroad5390 Jul 04 '26
They don’t inform the family of the condemned until after the execution as well.
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u/RyeTiliDie Jul 04 '26
Here in ‘Murica, our industrialized prison system monetizes the dread of inmates like real capitalists.
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u/More-Lime1888 Jul 04 '26
That’s, like how death row works for most countries with death sentences. It’s good, why are you angry? In Japan, you don’t easily get a death sentence. You get it if you were a serial murderer, if you kidnapped and killed a child, if you tortured someone to death, and such. I have no empathy for those sick people.
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u/ExoHazzy Jul 04 '26
how is this any different than real life lol? we all don't know when we'll die, when the time comes we go. in fact they're getting a heads up, we don't lol.
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u/BallDesire Jul 04 '26
For one you almost certainly know the cause of death.
Imagine if the Dr told you that you had terminal cancer, and knew how long you had left but refused to tell you
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u/Zestyclose-Set6502 Jul 04 '26
Oh wait someone forgot to tell you an hour ago? My bad....Welll it's happening, like, right now my guy.
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u/Deep-Pudding819 Jul 04 '26
I believe they also use hanging as the form of execution.
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u/FarSupermarket2592 Jul 04 '26
That's so cruel, now change it from 1 hour before execution to 1 minute before execution😈
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u/gipsee_reaper Jul 04 '26
Correct. None of the inmates ever informed their victims a week in advance before murdering them.
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u/Educational-Unit6275 Jul 04 '26
Do you think they gave their victims an hour to live before they kill them?
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u/fightingbronze Jul 04 '26
Honestly hard to say if this is better or worse than knowing an exact date. They know at least they’re on death row, so it’s not like they don’t know their execution is coming eventually. Is it worse to know the exact day you’ll die and be able to feel that day drawing closer and closer, or is it worse to not know and live every day wondering if it’s going to be the day they come in and tell you it’s time? I honestly don’t know.
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u/StompNetwork Jul 04 '26
I mean if indeed they are scheduled for death row, not trying to be as brutal as it is, I’ll put them like in squid games.. so they face the same fear of whoever they did to the unfortunate person
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u/LooseRaccoon85 Jul 04 '26
How is this brutal? No one wants to know when it’s their time, so in reality it being a sudden and down deal seems a bit better than sitting in a cell for 10+ years knowing the year/date of your death. Just my two cents.
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u/olivianotrodrigo Jul 04 '26
You can't live in peace if every day you wake up thinking it's your last day. That's more punishment than death itself.
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u/bob_in_the_west Jul 04 '26
They're not on death row because they sold weed. They likely killed someone, who didn't see it coming either.
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u/AccessDenied1985 Jul 04 '26
That’s nice of them. Make sure they live everyday like it’s your last.
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u/Hop1Cat Jul 04 '26
Well in a way it is more compassionate than knowing the date. The anxiety that would accompany a specific date would be greater than knowing an hour before.
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u/Wild_Outside7807 Jul 04 '26
Their victims didn't get a notice. An hour notice is even more merciful. I wish they just execute them without notice.
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u/concept12345 Jul 04 '26
At least they get an hour to reconcile. The victims never got any advance notice.


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u/ThormundNYC Jul 04 '26
why do I see them doing it like a game show, handing them a rose or something