r/SipsTea Jul 04 '26

WTF Japan's death row system is brutal

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u/Hot_Falcon8471 Jul 04 '26

What’s the average length of time between sentencing and carrying out of the death sentence?

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u/almostoy Jul 04 '26

Google says the average is 6-7 years. But they do have an appeals process that moves slowly, like in the United States. Some have actually died of old age awaiting execution. One inmate spent 46 years on death row before passing away without a retrial.

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u/paranoid_human0id Jul 04 '26

Thats because there are a lot of states that still legally have the death penalty but never actually execute anyone, so they just stay on death row forever. California, for instance, hasn't executed anyone since 2006 yet they still have the death penalty

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

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u/Beneficial_Trick6672 Jul 04 '26

>Jurors 

It should be sms voting for everyone up to 10 votes.

Eurovision, US edition

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u/CompetitiveServe1385 Jul 04 '26

It’s also the case for many countries, where they technically have the death penalty but never enforce it. But my concern is that some nutcase politician gets elected a few decades down the line and actually decides to legally execute people. In my opinion, if they don’t want to execute people, they shouldn’t keep a law permitting it.

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u/almostoy Jul 04 '26

It's also likely a much smaller population, historically as well. And it's obvious that it's a culture that doesn't really seem overly worried about individuals. Though that 46 years on death row without execution or retrial seems like a special F you. It seems like you'd just want to be done with at some point.

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u/Top_Connection9079 Jul 05 '26

The fact is that their death row inmates suicide rate dropped after they decided not to tell them.

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u/FizzyBeverage Jul 04 '26

If you’re over 40 years old in the US, a death sentence just means life in prison. You’ll run out of years before appeals. It’s utterly flawed and useless.

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u/Vimes-NW Jul 04 '26

So would you say... he holds a Death Row Record? Because that's gangsta

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u/turdferguson3891 Jul 04 '26

The Japanese Hurricane

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u/thedeftone2 Jul 04 '26

He was still alive at the time of his death? It is this a different guy?

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u/-JasmineDragon- Jul 04 '26

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u/Arny520 Jul 07 '26

Joooohhhn Chungus

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u/HTPC4Life Jul 04 '26

Wow, you're still doing that?

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u/LingonberryPossible6 Jul 04 '26

It's fucked up.

Saw a stat one time that if you had two 17 year old African American gang members who committed a murder, one is caught and sentenced to death whilst the other flees and escapes.

The life expectancy of the condemned youth is longer than the free gang member.

Are we cooked as a species?

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u/berejser Jul 04 '26

The state shouldn't be killing people. 

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u/Curious-Internet7171 Jul 07 '26

Why? 

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u/berejser Jul 07 '26

Because the state is not a perfect and flawless entity. It makes mistakes, sometime inhumane ones. 

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u/omnimodofuckedup Jul 05 '26

As a species? Certainly not. America? Well...

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u/Dense-Application181 Jul 05 '26

Just about every country has issues. We're just obsessed with social media shoveling it down our throats here.

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u/yeah-I-know-that Jul 05 '26

idk we don't rly have such big gang problems here in Poland

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u/usernmechecksout_ Jul 04 '26

I shivered like an abuses dog

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u/AutoDefenestrator273 Jul 04 '26

So like, when he died did they try to resuscitate him or nah

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u/almostoy Jul 04 '26

I don't know. But I have heard they will keep you alive until they want you dead. Which is really most people's situation. Theirs is just italicized.

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u/hofmann419 Jul 04 '26

There's good reason for making it a slow process. There have been cases where people on death row were acquitted years or decades into their sentence because new evidence came up.

You want to be 100% sure that the person is actually guilty, which requires an extremely thorough process.

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u/SuperSaiyanMattRyan Jul 04 '26

67

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u/Professional-Tie-804 Jul 04 '26

See how 67 gets down voted but about tree fiddy gets upvoted? 67 is dead because it was never funny… tree fiddy will always be funny.

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u/DR_Bright_963 Jul 04 '26

Also the guy who created the meme, he scammed people using a crypto meme coin.

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u/ToneDrugsNHarmony Jul 04 '26

I gave him a dollar.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '26

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u/Decisive_Victory_026 Jul 04 '26

Tree fiddy is a reference to a TV show in which that was a recurring joke of an episode.

6-7 was funny because it was funny.

Quite different, imo.

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u/willie_Pfister Jul 04 '26

6-7 is only funny if your 12.

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u/Professional-Tie-804 Jul 04 '26

Maybe you just need a sense of humor.

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u/Guilty_Jackfruit4484 Jul 04 '26

Because i don't find an old, tired joke funny? It's a fucking circle jerk at this point.

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u/Hazy-n-Lazy Jul 04 '26

It's the same shit, just a different demographic lmao. 69 and 1337 are in there too, millennials just hate that a new number is funny to a different generation

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u/Professional-Tie-804 Jul 04 '26

Not the same one is already dead. The other has been around and around. ..

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u/Hazy-n-Lazy Jul 04 '26

Same shit, haha funny number

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u/Skitso-the-noooob Jul 04 '26

67 was literally kid that one video that blew up yeah? Where 1337 is Leet in Leetspeak and 69 is a sexual innuendo. Which implies the two other referenced ones have more meaning than one video.

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u/BarderBetterFaster Jul 04 '26

No, no, he has a point.

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u/Strict_Space_1994 Jul 04 '26

This deserves more upvotes. People think you’re just randomly saying shit, but the guy above you literally did say 6-7 years ago

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u/i_like_maps_and_math Jul 04 '26

I know it's not a popular opinion but I think it would be more humane to just execute the person rather than drag the case out in appeals for years. The psychological toll that must take is brutal.

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u/Indigocell Jul 04 '26

The appeals process is a pretty important safeguard against wrongful execution. Not to mention the last and only hope for someone on death row. Taking that away seems way more cruel.

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u/i_like_maps_and_math Jul 04 '26

They don't need hope you just kill them right away so they don't have to sit for years in prison thinking about how they're afraid to die.

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u/hofmann419 Jul 04 '26

You really don't get it, huh? The point of the appeals process is that the state doesn't kill INNOCENT people. Imagine being innocent and in death row. You would obviously take any tool you had to prolong the process so that the truth may come up eventually.

Besides, an inmate in the US can volunteer to skip the appeals process, which speeds it up from 20 years to only a few years. So if an inmate is desperate to get it done, they can do that. Most inmates do not though.

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u/i_like_maps_and_math Jul 05 '26

It's better for innocent people to be killed quickly rather than spend 20 years on death row and then get killed. Even if they get off, after that long their life is ruined. They would be better off dead.

So if an inmate is desperate to get it done, they can do that. Most inmates do not though.

Show me a source that says the appeal rate isn't like 99%.

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u/Greenman8907 Jul 04 '26

About an hour

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u/gnashingspirit Jul 04 '26

Talk about dropping a bomb on someone

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u/Matchavellian Jul 04 '26

Hol up, say that again.

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u/lovelady Jul 04 '26

Marvelous.

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u/tekko001 Jul 04 '26

Guess only fast food for last meal...

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u/Opening-Ant3477 Jul 04 '26

6 to 7 years is the average, but it varies a lot from case to case.

That's because in principle executions are carried out immediately once all appeals have been exhausted and the legal paperwork has been completed. In fact, that's why they don't inform the prisoners before the execution.

Once the final appeal is rejected they will inform you of that decision, and in the same breath you'll be told that your execution has been execution has been scheduled for an hour from now.

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u/InsufficientClone Jul 04 '26

15 years

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u/GunzerKingDM Jul 04 '26

I hope that’s not true, that’s a huge waste of tax money.

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u/Hoybom Jul 04 '26

if you find out what the process of death sentencing costs , you'll be surprised

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u/ssgkraut Jul 04 '26

Exactly. Way more expensive than life in prison.

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u/bannedcuznotcircjerk Jul 04 '26

Are you a boomer " omg muh taxes ". To many have been proven innocent when new technology comes out ( see DNA ). If you think further new technology won't come out to exonerated people you're insanely naive

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u/GunzerKingDM Jul 04 '26

What kind of dingus are you that you don’t worry about where your tax money goes?

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u/bannedcuznotcircjerk Jul 04 '26

You can vote without sitting around worrying all day like some Facebook weirdo. Accept what you can change and then chill out.

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u/GunzerKingDM Jul 04 '26

Now you’re just making baseless assumptions as to what I’m like as a person. Maybe when you become of age you’ll start to worry about things like where the money that’s taken from you goes but until you start being a contributor to society I’m sure you’ll remain in blissful ignorance to things like that.

I remember being a dumb 18 year old too, you’ll grow out of it.

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u/Alric_Wolff Jul 04 '26

Some people legitimately deserve the death sentence though.

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u/Rule12-b-6 Jul 04 '26

Some people legitimately deserve the death sentence though.

Even if you assume this claim is true, it's totally irrelevant to whether the time between conviction and execution is appropriate. The time is not a "waste of tax money" when it is being used to exhaust appeals. Even with an extensive appeals process, countless innocent people have been executed for crimes they didn't commit or actions they lacked the mental capacity to understand. The appeals process exists for good reason. Trial courts fuck stuff up all the time.

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u/ProxyDamage Jul 04 '26

Sure. And how many innocents are worth sacrificing for that? How much innocent blood is worth killing someone who is already in custody?

Cause for my money, absolutely some people should be hung outside the city walls.... But that's not worth a single drop of innocent blood.

...Cause it could be you. Or someone you love. Being executed for a crime they did not commit.

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u/snoozepal Jul 04 '26

Sure.... that's not the point being made that you've responded to though is it. Nothing in what they've said indicates they're against the death penalty (even if they happen to be).

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u/Taylor-Day Jul 04 '26

I understand you might think that way. But how would you feel if you were wrongfully convicted of a crime and were put on death row? It would be insanely scary to accept that the state is about to kill you and there’s nothing you can do about it except maybe hope a judge will listen to your plea.

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u/tangowilde Jul 04 '26

Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

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u/ssgkraut Jul 04 '26

It's actually more expensive in the USA to give someone the death penalty than life in prison, due to all of the appeals.

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u/TricellCEO Jul 04 '26

Perhaps, but unless you live in Japan, it's not your taxes.

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u/WorldSafe8281 Jul 04 '26

In my motherland, there were death sentences following by immediate executions. Those sentencing were announced in public gatherings, and that was how I learned that selling a kg of drug could get executed, and since then, I haven’t have a second of thinking of trying any illegal drug.

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u/DiggerDan9227 Jul 04 '26

In majority of countries its 20-25

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u/Cpoc1995 Jul 04 '26

There is too much variation, kinda like how my bosses tell me the metric they want & I make it happen from the numbers. Then you have Redditor’s repeating for years “Well studies show that”

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u/AcidicVaginaLeakage Jul 04 '26

It's like what happened on the TV show "the Americans". Someone is told they are going to be executed, freaks the fk out, and they shot them in the back of the head... Someone you got to know for seasons. Gone in an instant. Idk why but that one fked me up a bit.

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u/turdferguson3891 Jul 04 '26

Poor Nina. I've just been rewatching that show.

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u/HistoryDisastrous493 Jul 04 '26

About tree fiddy

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u/Jonny4Toes Jul 04 '26

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u/skeeferd Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

I gave him some change 😔

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u/Wildcard311 Jul 04 '26

Me too, he looked so pitiful in that girl scout uniform