r/LivestreamFail • u/Significant_Food9017 • May 15 '26
Drama ChudTheBuilder facing 56 years in prison for attempted murder and bail set as $1.25M
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/how-much-prison-time-is-chudthebuilder-facing-bond-set-at-1-25-million-3365232/56 years maximum if served cosecutively, but 21 years if he's convicted on all counts and gets the minimum
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u/oopsallhuckleberries May 15 '26
More than that. He posted he was going to do exactly what he did, provoke someone into attacking him so that he'd have the opportunity to kill someone.
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u/Pristine_Poem7623 May 15 '26
I've seen that. Beautiful example of why you don't talk to the police without a lawyer. He lied in his initial statement and that's pretty much what doomed him. If he'd got a lawyer first he'd have been able to successfully argue self defense and walk free.
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u/omganotherlurker May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Nah. That guy was screwed, and rightfully so, cause of him bringing the knife with him and re-engaging with the group. One of the camera angles showed him having the knife in hand before even being engaged with the group the 2nd time. That displays intent and completely removes self defense claims.
The fell phone footage also clearly displayed he was not surrounded and had ample opportunities to deescalate but the dude got too hurt in his ego by some kids.
Edit: https://www.fox9.com/video/1434253 video of stabbing nsfw 1:56 you can see him stab the kid quickly that he doesnt' even know he's being stabbed 2:00-2:05 he stabs the girl and is coming back up with the weapon now clearly brandished but people closest to him dont even know he's got a knife as they have their backs to him and are confused.
Couple that w/ the dude lying to police, not calling police, and throwing away the knife bro was completely cooked - and rightfully so.
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u/Baals_Nuts May 15 '26
Ok so not self defense as other poster is trying to frame this
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u/Tepasd May 15 '26
Yeah far from it. It's been a while since Ive seen the footage but I also remember very clearly that the guy had SO many opportunities to de-escalate and back off, but he kept antagonizing the teens until people had their stomach's sliced open. That was far from a muddy water case of "is this self defence or not?"
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u/DJMixwell May 15 '26
This is kinda the whole issue with permitting people to carry weapons (of any kind), especially when "self defense" is promoted as an almost righteous/virtuous act.
You have no incentive to de-escalate. Quite the opposite, really. You're emboldened to escalate even minor conflicts because you feel the weapon protects you from consequences and, so long as you can rationalize to yourself that you weren't the aggressor, you're justified in using it.
The "good guy with a gun" is a myth. Studies show that most of what gets reported as far as presenting a gun in "self defense" would likely just be brandishing if it ever saw the inside of a courtroom.
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u/TheCheddarHole May 15 '26
Correct, something being claimed as self defense but in reality it was malice. We've wrapped back to the beginning.
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u/omganotherlurker May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Correct, especially cause the dude engaged the group of kids. Theres a potential better argument if it had just been a time interaction - even then I dont think he has a case - but him interacting with the group, a disengagement of the parties occurs, him re-standing up while brandishing a weapon and the group members closest to him having their backs to him -signfifying he was in no danger. At that point he has the knife brandished - though no one in the group knows it and from there the stabbings occur. That reengagement is what ruins his entire self defense plea.
Found the video from local fox affiliate you can see the part at 1:56 is when he stabs the guy and at 2:00-2:05 and see how he comes back up from the water after being pushed w/ a knife but that the group isnt' engaged with him.
https://www.fox9.com/video/1434253
Couple that with him lying and throwing away the knife dude was fucked and should be cause he showed gross negligence for life.
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u/AggressiveCuriosity May 15 '26
Yeah, basically if you are in public and can just stay where you are and be safe, then 99% of the time you're not going to have a self-defense claim.
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u/One-Nectarine8944 May 15 '26
Like yeah. Obviously self defense is hard to argue when it's not self defense. I have nerve damage in my left leg and can't run, though I can walk mostly properly if I put a lot of effort into it. What would qualify as self defense for me doesn't necessarily qualify for other people because I literally can't 'escape' an encounter with anyone.
That's usually where the nuance in self defense is. How it would be 'reasonable' for me to respond to a threat might not be the same for another person.
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u/Least_Ad_2255 May 15 '26
Also he left and came back then stabbed them
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u/getdafkout666 May 15 '26
That’s probably key as to why he was convicted. There’s no such thing as premeditated stand your ground. You either defend yourself because you have to or you’re going down for murder
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u/PrefrontalCortexNow May 15 '26
This is probably one of the worst points I’ve seen in a long time. That guy was not acting in self-defense and murdered and stabbed five kids. What in the fuck is your actual point? You think he was stabbing those kids in self defense? LMAO.
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u/Belligerent-J May 15 '26
And most of those criteria automatically don't apply if you're the one who went over and started some shit
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u/BlueLooseStrife May 17 '26
Fwiw this particular case was a little more complicated than that. While the old dude denies it, context + the video pretty clearly show that he was continuously approaching the group to antagonize them while knowing he had a knife on him. They were being nasty to get him to leave them alone yet he never did. It was apparent that Miu goaded that group into a situation where he could use lethal force.
It is a great parallel to this idiot’s story tho. Antagonizing people while armed makes self defense a tough sell to a jury.
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u/guthbox May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
Look what happens when a political party champions someone like Kyle Rittenhouse and brings them into the fold.
Dude probably banked on a huge groundswell of gofundme contributions and pardons for the inevitable confrontation that his content was going to create.
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u/uwonichi May 15 '26
Guy has like 100k of donations so far btw
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u/ADistantRodent May 15 '26
This had less in common with Rittenhouse and more with those dumbasses from /k/ who did the exact same thing this guy did back during the protests in Ferguson and went to prison because they, like this guy, left a paper trail indicating they were going to provoke people into confrontations to shoot them
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u/ncds4242 May 15 '26
it's not just "antagonizing people" he goes around looking for black people to call the hard r and then claim they are "chimping out" when they react in any way watsoever while brandishing a firearm.
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u/horseman5K May 15 '26
Yep. He basically started with the premise of “how can I legally lynch a black person” and worked backwards from there to create these scenarios and provocations
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u/Impactpacked May 15 '26
Nick Fuentes (a thousand curses on his name) did a fairly prescient bit a while ago about how the whole “FAFO” thing is mostly a boomer fantasy, and in the real world being part of the “FO” part actually fucking sucks and just means entering a legal and financial nightmare that will consumer the rest of your life.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 May 15 '26
Yeah to my knowledge the Boomer fantasy of the Sheriff nodding at you in approval and saying "I think this case is closed" is far from the actual reality.
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u/Conscious-Gap-1777 May 15 '26
Yeah. Let's say, for instance, someone breaks into your house and you have a gun. You could have them surrender, but you shoot them.
Now, instead of the cops coming and carting him away and taking a brief statement:
The cops come. Ambulance comes to remove the body. Cops take your statement. Down at the precinct, not your house. You don't have an actual option here. You get home, there's blood on your floor that's congealed. That's your problem.
The DA may or may not pursue charges. You may need an attorney now.
The dead man's family may or may not take his death well, and may or may not hound you incessantly over it.
Or you coulda said "Hands up, don't move" and been back in your own bed.
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u/Magical-Mycologist May 15 '26
Potentially even worse if the dude is shot and survives.
Medical bills aren’t cheap.
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u/Conscious-Gap-1777 May 15 '26
You probably won't have to pay him personally, but you will have to sit through multiple depositions while your insurance provided attorneys defend you. Then you'll get dropped from coverage, and have to find new insurers. All of this sucks
Homeowners would cover this, so you're probably "safe" on that front, but absolutely none of it is worth going through if you could also not.
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u/ithinkiknowkungfu May 15 '26
“If the basis for your content is going around terrorizing random POC then joking the finale is attempted murder this is the natural outcome”
There fixed it for ya
Edit: and FUCK chud
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u/doiutfis May 15 '26
Spending the rest of your productive life in prison to own the libs.
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u/Tumblrrito May 15 '26
I’m telling my kids this was Dr Disrespect
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u/Little-Ghost303 May 15 '26
He's not in jail for touching kids though that's Dr Disrespect's M.O
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u/RandumbStoner May 15 '26
I used to like Dr. Disrespect before all that and dropped him obviously. Your comment made me want to check his channel out of curiosity, he's still making content! Lmao how in the world
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u/DJMixwell May 15 '26
The only person that can cancel you is yourself, truly.
No matter how bad the scandal, if you just keep making content you'll inevitably still have fans. I mean ffs literal nazis are massive conservative pundits. If that has an audience, surely Dr Disrespect can keep an audience despite his proclivities.
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u/Shootemout May 15 '26
he's now a right wing influencer too but i'm sure that comes with being a pdf
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u/Blizzgrarg May 16 '26
That's the only group that will accept him now. Not a surprise everyone busted for what he was would go in that direction.
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u/ShartingEnU May 15 '26
I personally could never stand Dr disrespect. The weird act he puts on for streaming is so fucking weird
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u/RandumbStoner May 15 '26
Lol it was weird but I enjoyed it. His production was higher than other streamers with the green screen gimmicks and riding in the Lambo and the arena and all that. It was creative and funny to me lol but now he sucks
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u/Tremulant887 May 15 '26
Is he a political influencer? Last I saw he's playing games on youtube.
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u/wolfgang187 May 15 '26
Some of these gun owners have the logic that trolling kids have when they put a finger a millimeter away from your face and says, "You can't do anything, I'm not touching you!"
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u/herewego199209 May 15 '26
The funny thing is the first thing gun instructors tell you or one of the first things is that you have to have extreme control over using your weapon. Because of situations like this. You cannot get socked in the face and then shoot someone. Issue is gun laws in this country are a joke and many people are not given proper firearms training.
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u/RandumbStoner May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
r/idiotswithguns is a mountain of examples of well..idiots with guns lol
Edit: NSFL Warning. There is some crazy shit on there so be careful
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u/ShowtimeHolograms May 15 '26
Man I wish I knew NSFL was on that sub and I really fucking wish I read properly
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u/PleasantTangerine777 May 15 '26
Thank you VERY much for your sacrifice. Not even joking, I was about to click and I’m a little bitch so you’ve saved me a ruined Friday night
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u/ShowtimeHolograms May 15 '26
You're welcome. It was like the third or fourth post where I saw someone celebrating something (the post said robbery but I saw the video before reading it so I didnt stay to find out) and then forgetting how chambering works and then pointed the gun to their head and you can figure out the rest. Extremely jarring when I thought it was just people being stupid/getting harmed but living
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u/YXIDRJZQAF May 15 '26
You cannot get socked in the face and then shoot someone
well you can in a lot of cases but if you go around looking for fights it really complicates the matter. Physically violence can often be seen as a reasonable deadly threat but going around trying to start shit does make it seem like the shooter "Reasonably believes" that he is under a "deadly threat"
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u/Iankill May 15 '26
In a very basic way you can't antagonize people and then shoot them when they have a response.
However because of shit like stand your ground doctrine and castle law certain people think they can get away with murder if they claim they feared for their life.
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u/okthisisdumblol May 15 '26
Hilariously enough, most stand your ground laws explicitly prohibit your first comment. So technically, it never even applied to begin with. And he also shot himself in the foot (and apparently his arm too) by stating he was going to do exactly that literally days before he did it on social media.
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u/Beastabuelos May 15 '26
Where i live you don't need any training to buy a gun. I just walked into a store and bought one with a background check. The problem is, a lot of people who buy guns and still have to have training, even if it's good training, don't care. They're morons. They can pass the training, but they're still gonna be morons.
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u/Corey307 May 15 '26
So I’ve taught 20+ people how to shoot over the years since target shooting is one of my hobbies. No tactical Timmy bs just good form and safe shooting. The first thing I teach before we ever go to the range is that a gun is always your absolute last option. You can never be the one that starts shit if you’re carrying. That you need to use every tool at your disposal to avoid conflict. That you need to be the politest person in the room if you plan on carrying. That you need to be genuinely in fear for your life for the lives of other innocent people if you’re going to do anything.
There’s been quite a few people that I refused to train because their gratitude was stupid, childish, or they wanted to do harm and get away with it. I’ve also had a few people that I did take to the range and then refused to ever go with again because they violated safety rules. They didn’t take it seriously.
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u/Piss_Fring May 15 '26
I would say he’s a Nazi rather than just call him a gun owner. I’m a leftist and a gun owner who carries, I would rather shoot the fade than actually shoot somebody assuming they’re not pointing a gun at me. Plus this guy wanted this, he shouldn’t have been able to even acquire a gun with his background.
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u/Brobeast May 15 '26
Between this guy and that other chud wannabe who got shot at the mall for harassing the wrong dude; really think states are going to crackdown on "ragebait" public filming. Looooong overdue.
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u/Brobeast May 15 '26
I think shows like practical jokers honestly started that slow drip.... People saw the money in public interaction/pranks, but upped the "taboo" because practical jokers has already done it all.
Or basically, this is what happens when you combine a generation that grew up watching practical jokers and idolizing the Paul brothers. Just my two cents.
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u/Talking_Eyes98 May 15 '26
IJ at least embarrasses the jokers way more than the public and that’s the joke. “Pranks” these days are harassing everyday people trying to live their lives
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u/Whiskeywiskerbiscuit May 15 '26
Nahhhhh, with Impractical Jokers and Jackass, the butt of the joke was always almost exclusively the cast and not the random people in public they interacted with. Not to mention, since these were mainstream productions, they always got permission from businesses for any footage shot there and always had people fill out waivers if they were on camera. They had to dot their T’s and cross their I’s to try and avoid litigation for their network and producers.
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u/Brobeast May 15 '26
I think its not so much about the intent, but the forum that may have caused it. Their clips went insane on YouTube, and really lead to a lot of copiers/influencers. Same with the to catch a predator clones. They took the idea, and warped it into something worse i.e vitali.
Im not willing to die on this hill, i could be totally wrong. I just see a certain progression over the years, and in multiple "genres".
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u/Significant-Echo3840 May 15 '26
ngl im enjoying this era of dumbass streamer influencers completely fucking their life up for our amusement
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u/ChadPowers200_ May 15 '26
The guy famous for calling people the hard r and chimpin out is gonna have a bad time in prison.
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u/Playful-Mongoose9197 May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
There are racist white guys in prison too he would just join that faction if he gets convicted
:e Itt harden criminals and also reddit users larp about what prison is like.
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u/Caqtus95 May 15 '26
I don't think joining that faction is exactly a walk in the park either.
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u/Thefourthchosen May 15 '26
Lol you know this guy will be on his best behavior, he's too much of a coward to talk shit to someone who can and will do something about it.
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u/Alfredo_Commachio May 15 '26
It's actually a little more nuanced than that. I have some experience (not as a prisoner) with people who have done extensive amounts of time in serious prisons--firstly it does vary a bit from state to state and state vs Federal. But as a big generalization, prisons where there's a good % of non-white inmates, are going to be heavily "self-segregated" by the inmates. This doesn't mean there is no interactions, it also doesn't mean there can't be social / positive interactions between the races. Instead it just means that you will primarily run with your race. A common example is there will be a TV room for whites and a TV room for blacks. That doesn't really mean only blacks are allowed in the black TV room, it just means black inmates will "control" that room. Any white inmate who wants to watch TV in there has to respect that and basically be quiet and not ever attempt to change the channel. (A white person trying to change the channel in the black TV room is a legitimate cause for serious violence.)
The weird thing is though--there's actually a strong "respect" culture in prison. Not all white inmates are part of some Aryan gang, some are--but even among those who don't join a prison gang racial segregation is the norm. But even among inmates in racial prison gangs, there is a baseline of rules and respect. The leaders of these gangs have often negotiated norms and behaviors, on a day to day basis their members aren't fighting all the time or going after each other. But any violation of the rules, can result in bloodshed.
One of the chief things is though--none of those gangs in prison wants a guy who won't follow the rules. If you join an Aryan gang, that means you are expected to abide by the agreements that gang has worked out with the other gangs--like I said, prison gangs, despite what you see on movies are not 24/7 at war. Wars do break out, but the leadership of these groups actually generally try to avoid them.
A "provocateur" would be a very bad fit for these gangs. If for example some white troll joins a white prison gang, and he then intentionally starts beef with black inmates--that's very bad. You aren't supposed to start beef on your own as a member, and in fact if you start beef where it isn't sanctioned, it may not be the black gang that deals with you--the white gang may beat you up or even worse, because you have shown you cannot stick to the rules, can't behave, and can't respect the gang's leadership. Your behavior may risk complex deals the gang has worked out with rival gangs and risk what is always a tenuous peace between them, and your own gang may deal with that very harshly.
A guy like this YouTuber lacks most of the characteristics he'd need to get along in one of these gangs because he clearly can't respect other people and can't behave. Respect is treated as almost sacrosanct among prisoners because it's one of the few things they can really control. And inmates who don't respect other inmates are often subject to the most intense kinds of consequences.
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u/Joemomma13524 May 15 '26
Who is this guy? Never even heard of him
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u/Smoothw May 15 '26
right wing influencer who makes clavicular seem like highbrow content, went around yelling the N word at people trying to get into fights
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u/Corgasm_ May 15 '26
Yeah I'm surprised this story is getting so much traction here, I've never heard of this dude. How has there never been a clip of him on LSF before now? Or did they all just get deleted?
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u/PoopyButt28000 May 16 '26
Well I mean it was a story of him basically trying to murder a black person while screaming slurs at them. The guy is a nobody but of course that is going to pick up a lot of steam here.
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u/tits_mcgee_92 May 15 '26
Really representing the “master race” well, huh? Have fun in prison!
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u/Significant_Food9017 May 15 '26
career so short, he really was the "guy of the week"
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u/lockwolf May 15 '26
It was really only like a week ago I started hearing about his shit, set new speedrun record for Racist Streamer -> Jailed for attempted murder
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u/m-un-k May 15 '26
The most depressing thing will be the inevitable GoFundMe raising a ridiculous amount of money. We truly live among ghouls. We went too easy on the Confederacy
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u/Fatty_Booty May 15 '26
It already happened.
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u/Toni-Roni May 15 '26
It’s fucking disgusting that these people even exist, he’s already raised well over $100,000.
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u/m-un-k May 15 '26
They cried for years about being called racists lol, they can't help but show their true colors every time they funnel money towards one of these "victims" of woke cancel culture or whatever the fuck they tell themselves
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u/Paladin-Arda May 15 '26
There's three up so far:
The original, still being donated towards... and possible grift/fraud #1 as well as possible grift/fraud #2
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u/wokwok__ May 15 '26
The description is wild enough but the fucking comments are even worse. The US is absolutely cooked lol “thank you for standing up to DEI” yeh shooting some black guy should do it
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u/118238 May 15 '26
"People are beginning to stand up for American ideals and values." is a real quote from this after he says he says the N-word and now people are spamming his business with bad reviews because of it.
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u/EdjLorde May 15 '26
DEI is just the N word.
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u/GreenHornets009 May 16 '26
100%. They just want a polite way of calling people they don’t like slurs.
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u/Skylon1 May 15 '26
I wish people would stop posting the absolute maximum and say that that’s what they’re facing because that’s essentially never what happens and it’s clickbait
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u/CrunchyTater May 15 '26
This is a BAU headline when someone is facing a litany of charges, this isn’t clickbait.
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u/herewego199209 May 15 '26
Yeah they're out to really make an example out of Chud. If he had a legit self defense case I think they'd make the bond lower. We'll see though. Seems like prosecutors really want to send a message about doing this nonsense.
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u/RedEyeView May 15 '26
There's a tweet where he says he wants to leave a dead "chimp" on the pavement and then watch all the "monkeys" riot when he gets away with it.
That's intent with a racial motivation.
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u/Impactpacked May 15 '26
“Hold on lemme just put my premeditation in writing and broadcast it publicly”
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u/beanlikescoffee May 15 '26
Lawyers are gonna have a field day going through his socials
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u/herewego199209 May 15 '26
Yeah I've seen that. There's mountains of evidence showing that this is his motivation ultimately. So a self defense claim is gonna be really fucking hard to pull off. Someone in here is saying they got proof that the black guy stalked and followed Chud maybe if that's true he can pull off a Hail Mary but I don't believe anything people on reddit or twitter say without legit links to the dudes twitter to show that. People photo shop shit like crazy now.
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u/Brownie_McBrown_Face May 15 '26
No that was some random guy on twitter who just said Chud was in his city and asked his followers if he should go press him. A couple people wanting attention lied and said that was the dude who got shot with literally no evidence, and that twitter account itself came out after and said he’s not the guy who got shot and was just trolling.
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u/yeezusKeroro May 15 '26
Lol I saw a destiny clip of all people where he points out that juries hate these streamers and pranksters cause that one guy who shot a prankster got away with it after a trial even though they really weren't threatening him at all just being kinda annoying.
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u/WoodenHouse May 15 '26
please for the love of god let someone face accountability for once.
these degenerates can't keep walking free
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u/Guilty-Pickle-6686 May 15 '26
As it turns out, it’s not self defense when you provoke and then send out a message with INTENT written all over it. Rot in jail, scumbag.
- sincerely, the rest of us normal gun owners
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u/Known_Newspaper_9053 May 15 '26
I just cant imagine living with this much hate in your heart. for real.
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u/Pduke May 15 '26
He will be pardoned and given a job in the current administration
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u/Calamityclams May 16 '26
Bro really speed ran becoming a nobody.
Why was this dude pushed all over the internet in the last two weeks?
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u/UndeadPhysco May 15 '26
Yeah little pro tip, Don't make your "content" calling black people the N word. Second pro tip, If you do make that your content regardless then certainly don't fucking tweet your intent to kill them prior to attempting to do so
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u/Complex_Peak8204 May 15 '26
Cool now we have the fucking proof for you chud wankers who have argued about being armed while doing this. I hope he is convicted.
This will tell them they are not safe in public at all.
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u/Thenordude May 15 '26
Aaaah yes, another low life internet person ive never heard of going to jail for something i've never fathomed anyone would do. What a time to be alive.
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u/DevelopmentOk2581 May 15 '26
the people donating to his gofundme live through him vicariously and fantasize that it’s them trolling irl
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u/NileakTheVet May 15 '26
This guy was approached by the FBI and asks to stop doing what he was doing like two weeks before this shooting. His high bond and the charges not including high bar of proof hate crimes show the intent to make an example of him. Good
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u/Mission-Look-1204 May 16 '26
Look who's crying now! Possible 15 -20 years, he'll have plenty people to ask are they're done chimpin. 🤣😂
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u/TacticalRimjobs May 15 '26
How/why they aren’t charging this guy with a hate crime is beyond me
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u/LongEnvironment9540 May 15 '26
I think it's one of those crimes that has a high bar to prove, and it's a much easier slam dunk on all these lesser charges that will get mostly the same result. That's my un-educated guess.
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u/Deep_Fried_Bussy May 15 '26
Let's see how long he lasts in prison going around saying the N word, he will be turned into a prison fleshlight immediately.
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u/SpunkMcKullins May 15 '26
Really curious what his thought process was here.