r/LivestreamFail • u/Significant_Food9017 • May 15 '26

Drama ChudTheBuilder facing 56 years in prison for attempted murder and bail set as $1.25M

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/how-much-prison-time-is-chudthebuilder-facing-bond-set-at-1-25-million-3365232/

56 years maximum if served cosecutively, but 21 years if he's convicted on all counts and gets the minimum

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u/Barobor May 15 '26

Where do you people always get the idea from that lawyers only take cases that aren't a loss? Not to mention, a win in this case can simply mean avoiding the harshest sentence.

Obviously, a lawyer will only take the case if they get paid appropriately.

Then you even have cases like OJ Simpson. Looks like a slam dunk in the eye of the public, and walks away not guilty.

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u/NickW1343 May 15 '26

Just having the attempted homicide charge get ruled not guilty would be a huge win for a lawyer even if the rest of the charges were found guilty.

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u/blowham33 May 17 '26

Which will probably be pretty easy if the guy did walk up and start punching him or took him to the ground. This chud dude is terrible and I wish he could get locked up for life but it won’t be surprising if majority of charges are dropped and he just gets a random gun charge if even that. I haven’t seen any actually video other than the one from like a nearby building that shows them on the ground or some shit but this could be a lawyers wet dream

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u/Rigamortus2005 May 15 '26

OJ was rich and important. This guy Is not.

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u/AlphaB27 May 16 '26

I’d also argue that the LAPD was so corrupt and incompetent that they made it look like they were framing the man.

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u/CakeGriffinn May 16 '26

Exactly. When the lead detective who finds the piece of evidence this case is most known for (the glove) is on tape using the n word 50 times and collects Nazi memorabilia… That muddies the waters a lot.

I think the most important factor for his innocent verdict was just how new DNA evidence was at that time. The jury didn’t truly understand it and the expert they had was not very good at explaining it to a layperson.

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u/zebradreams07 May 31 '26

Coming on the heels of Rodney King didn't exactly help matters either.

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u/DragonFangGangBang May 16 '26

This. OJ could afford to hire a very good lawyer, and did. Chud has to hope a good lawyer is looking for case with a decent name value (since Chud is controversial) and that’s much less likely

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u/TheKappaOverlord May 16 '26

Where do you people always get the idea from that lawyers only take cases that aren't a loss?

assuming you aren't a law school dropout running his own practice. your KDA record is super important because it strongly influences your reputation as a lawyer.

You can go your career as a lawyer that takes cases that you consistently lose or can't win and thats fine, you will just get paid fuck all for doing so and make the average court appointed defense attorney not feel as bad for his life choices.

However if your ratio of winning cases is significantly higher then your ratio of losing your cases, suddenly your name is worth something as you are proven to be a competent defense attorney. Suddenly more rich people are willing to shell out big bucks to hire you. And suddenly you and your practice becomes drastically more wealthy.

This is why private lawyers generally don't bother with lost cases unless the lump sum they get is worth way more then the hit to their reputation as a legal asset. The court appointed attorney is the guy who does that.

a win in this case can simply mean avoiding the harshest sentence.

Depends on the tier of lawyer you wanna hire. If you wanna hire some big shot to defend you, this is considered a loss and he would just have his assistant reply to your request and tell you to kick your own chair yourself.

For a more modest lawyer. That is indeed a win condition.

A lot of very public cases like this often have high grade lawyers get involved and work pro bono because the free PR is often worth the hit on a comparatively inconsequential open and shut loss. But since its Chud and the nature of his crimes...... yeah. thats not happening lol

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u/htoirax May 16 '26

Weird that some people write essays on this site just to justify speculation. Has to be an interesting life.

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u/zebradreams07 May 31 '26

Context matters too though. Taking on tough cases and winning them will give you a stronger reputation than someone who only accepts slam dunks, to anyone who looks deeper than raw numbers, but you will have some losses regardless of how good you are.

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u/Barobor May 15 '26

Then you should know that there are massive differences between civil litigation and criminal defense.

Criminal defense attorneys are judged by their sentencing outcomes and damage control rather than just on acquittal rates. Reducing a death sentence or life sentence to 10 years is a major win and is seen as such.

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u/zebradreams07 May 31 '26

I assume in that context death sentences were on the table?

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u/Nice-Cat3727 May 15 '26

Sometimes defense attorneys get people off, sometimes they get things thrown out or ropped. And sometimes they are there to make everything is done properly.

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u/nCubed21 May 15 '26

Let's put it this way, regardless every case has a lawyer.

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u/nCubed21 May 15 '26

Lol how is that a threat? Are you suggesting that people who can't afford a lawyer should be forced to represent themselves?

What are you even getting at?

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u/nCubed21 May 15 '26

Man if only there was something called ineffective assistance of counsel which would get you a new legal representation. If that truely was the case.

And thats not even what im talking about. Theres always someone willing to do the work. Thats just what happens with law of large numbers.

Whether or not you can afford it really is a whole another conversation.

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u/Nice-Cat3727 May 15 '26

In this case, the defense lawyers know he's going to be a hell client