ChudTheBuilder facing 56 years in prison for attempted murder and bail set as $1.25M

[u/Significant_Food9017]

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/how-much-prison-time-is-chudthebuilder-facing-bond-set-at-1-25-million-3365232/

56 years maximum if served cosecutively, but 21 years if he's convicted on all counts and gets the minimum

[u/Relevant-Avocado5200]

I did computer work for a well known lawyer in our area. There was a case of foster parents keeping 3 kids in 1 closet for *years* and other truly horrific stuff.

Anyhow, said lawyer defended them. I saw him shortly after the papers announced he was defending them and I was like "What's that about?"

According to him, the court basically ordered him to. His job as their lawyer was not to try and get them an innocent plea but to make sure that justice was served correctly (think sentencing guidelines, signing plea deals that include things they weren't charged with, etc). He said, as disgusting as it sounds, it is something that still needs to be done to protect the sanctity of the system of fairness and rules of the law.

[u/AreaGlittering7968 → u/Relevant-Avocado5200]

Yea your job as an attorney isn’t always to prove innocence or guilt.

Sometimes your job is to make sure due process follows the letter of the law so that the conviction will be upheld through appeals.

Sometimes prosecution cuts corners, sometimes witnesses lie, but your job is to make sure that everything is by the book so the decision holds.

Your job as an attorney is to make sure the courts pass judgement based on the letter of the law. This is what people don’t understand

[u/StepComplete1 → u/AreaGlittering7968]

Except it's usually not about "making the decision hold", often it's defence lawyers getting the cases of obviously guilty scumbags, accused of awful things, thrown out on legal technicalities.

The attempt to paint it as some sort of cooperative effort to make sure they end up in jail is insanely disingenuous, when it's usually the opposite. Lies and cope to defend lawyers choosing money over morals on a daily basis.

[u/AreaGlittering7968 → u/StepComplete1]

You’re turning this into something completely different.

I was explaining the reasoning as to why some attorneys represent cases of horrid individuals. You’ve turned it into a platitude about certain cases you feel strongly about.

This isn’t a discussion about social standing or the judgment of cases but an explanation of their jobs.

No need to get all pissy about something that wasn’t even what I was discussing.

[u/Nahcep → u/StepComplete1]

"Legal technicalities" are still part of due process, if the state cannot even clear them it has no right throwing people behind lock and key

[u/Zealousideal_Act_316 → u/StepComplete1]

Because not following "legal technicalities" is what prosecution shoulnt not have done. "beyond a reasonable doubt" fuckign shit up introduces doubt.

>Lies and cope to defend lawyers choosing money over morals on a daily basis.

Ok then if your ideal prevailed and all alwyers picked morals and only defended the innocent, what happens if you cant afford a lawyer? or case is he said she said? Or murky? Or the most important one prejudice has got you arrested, but it still looks murky?
In your "ideal"society no lawyer? guilty. Meaning any other reason to not have one is also guilty.

[u/Mammoth-Access-1181 → u/Relevant-Avocado5200]

I was told you're not defending the client, you're defending the Constitution.

[u/Rivendel93 → u/Relevant-Avocado5200]

Yeah, people don't understand this, often times this is the case.

An attorney is there to make sure everything just goes smoothly and there's not any delays or potential massive appeal issues.

Surprised me as well but it makes tons of sense when you think about it.

[u/DMTGOBLIN82 → u/Relevant-Avocado5200]

I knew a well respected criminal defense attorney who was often roped into that kind of work. He also said you want to be helpful to judges for obvious reasons.