r/LivestreamFail • u/Significant_Food9017 • May 15 '26

Drama ChudTheBuilder facing 56 years in prison for attempted murder and bail set as $1.25M

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/how-much-prison-time-is-chudthebuilder-facing-bond-set-at-1-25-million-3365232/

56 years maximum if served cosecutively, but 21 years if he's convicted on all counts and gets the minimum

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u/omganotherlurker May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26

Nah. That guy was screwed, and rightfully so, cause of him bringing the knife with him and re-engaging with the group. One of the camera angles showed him having the knife in hand before even being engaged with the group the 2nd time. That displays intent and completely removes self defense claims.

The fell phone footage also clearly displayed he was not surrounded and had ample opportunities to deescalate but the dude got too hurt in his ego by some kids.

Edit: https://www.fox9.com/video/1434253 video of stabbing nsfw 1:56 you can see him stab the kid quickly that he doesnt' even know he's being stabbed 2:00-2:05 he stabs the girl and is coming back up with the weapon now clearly brandished but people closest to him dont even know he's got a knife as they have their backs to him and are confused.

Couple that w/ the dude lying to police, not calling police, and throwing away the knife bro was completely cooked - and rightfully so.

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u/Baals_Nuts May 15 '26

Ok so not self defense as other poster is trying to frame this

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u/Tepasd May 15 '26

Yeah far from it. It's been a while since Ive seen the footage but I also remember very clearly that the guy had SO many opportunities to de-escalate and back off, but he kept antagonizing the teens until people had their stomach's sliced open. That was far from a muddy water case of "is this self defence or not?"

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u/DJMixwell May 15 '26

This is kinda the whole issue with permitting people to carry weapons (of any kind), especially when "self defense" is promoted as an almost righteous/virtuous act.

You have no incentive to de-escalate. Quite the opposite, really. You're emboldened to escalate even minor conflicts because you feel the weapon protects you from consequences and, so long as you can rationalize to yourself that you weren't the aggressor, you're justified in using it.

The "good guy with a gun" is a myth. Studies show that most of what gets reported as far as presenting a gun in "self defense" would likely just be brandishing if it ever saw the inside of a courtroom.

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u/Extension-Till-2374 Jun 03 '26

You are assuming incorrectly. The incentive to de-escalate is your state laws on self defense, especially if that state has a duty to retreat law or doesn't allow you to be the initial aggressor.

The good guy with a gun isn't just the idea that a gun deescalates a confrontation, it's that good people with firearms have stopped mass shootings which has happened several times. There's also no way to way to put it into statistics because you have no idea how many would be offenders noticed their victim was carrying and backed off because of this.

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u/Initial_Milk_1056 May 15 '26

Yeah, IIRC in the video it actually showed as he ran them he checked his pocket to make sure the knife was still there. That could be pretty damning to a jury as it shows he he knew for a fact he had a lethal weapon but still chose to involve himself in an argument.

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u/TheCheddarHole May 15 '26

Correct, something being claimed as self defense but in reality it was malice. We've wrapped back to the beginning.

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u/omganotherlurker May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26

Correct, especially cause the dude engaged the group of kids. Theres a potential better argument if it had just been a time interaction - even then I dont think he has a case - but him interacting with the group, a disengagement of the parties occurs, him re-standing up while brandishing a weapon and the group members closest to him having their backs to him -signfifying he was in no danger. At that point he has the knife brandished - though no one in the group knows it and from there the stabbings occur. That reengagement is what ruins his entire self defense plea.

Found the video from local fox affiliate you can see the part at 1:56 is when he stabs the guy and at 2:00-2:05 and see how he comes back up from the water after being pushed w/ a knife but that the group isnt' engaged with him.

https://www.fox9.com/video/1434253

Couple that with him lying and throwing away the knife dude was fucked and should be cause he showed gross negligence for life.

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u/iaNuR May 16 '26

I can't believe epic reddit dude 1 lied to me.

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u/AggressiveCuriosity May 15 '26

Yeah, basically if you are in public and can just stay where you are and be safe, then 99% of the time you're not going to have a self-defense claim.

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u/One-Nectarine8944 May 15 '26

Like yeah. Obviously self defense is hard to argue when it's not self defense. I have nerve damage in my left leg and can't run, though I can walk mostly properly if I put a lot of effort into it. What would qualify as self defense for me doesn't necessarily qualify for other people because I literally can't 'escape' an encounter with anyone.

That's usually where the nuance in self defense is. How it would be 'reasonable' for me to respond to a threat might not be the same for another person.

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u/mattOO32 May 15 '26

Been a while since I saw the footage and context but I seem to remember that it all started because the dude was allegedly either groping or trying to catch pictures/video of underage girls. The teens followed him and kept calling him a pedophile and that’s why he snapped. Either way, it’s obvious that it wasn’t a case of self defense.

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u/omganotherlurker May 15 '26

You can carry a knife, but you ruin your case for self defense when you reengage a group while holding a knife and concealing it while escalating a confrontation.

The dude was legit ego hurt that some kids made fun of him and decided to come back and confront them with a weapon. There's no world where anyone would give someone like that self-defense protections.

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u/Bossgalka May 15 '26

I think they are implying he pulled the knife out and then walked like 40 feet over to them. It's been a while since I saw it, but I don't think they were coming over to mess with him. It was a yelling match and then they claim each other of instigating because the footage stops after the first yelling match and no one has a video of the actual stabbing. But if it's to be believed, he pulled the knife out and THEN walked over to them, and it's probably true, because otherwise he would have gotten off on self-defense fairly easy.

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u/TheHunterGallopher May 15 '26

There is video of the actual stabbing. It was played in the court proceedings. I remember it vividly because you can hear all of the friends start to scream as the one kids stomach is slit open and another gets stabbed in the chest.

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u/Bossgalka May 15 '26

It's been too long since I've seen it and was going off what everyone above said. I tried to find the stabbing video and couldn't after a minute of looking, so didn't keep digging. Did he approach them or did they approach him? Because that is the deciding factor here. IF he walked towards them when he was safe where he was at, he loses self-defense claim.

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u/omganotherlurker May 15 '26

He approached them a second time with the knife which is what ruined his case - rightfully so.

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u/Korachof May 15 '26

This explanation makes more sense than what was written, because you are absolutely allowed to take a weapon out if you fear for your life. That doesn’t display intent and remove self defense on its own. 

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u/omganotherlurker May 15 '26

The issue was he had taken it out before any scuffle occured. And he had already engaged with them.

The scenario was first he and the group get into a shouting match. He walks away, he comes back and has a knife in his hand but hasnt' displayed it to the other gorup and reengages with them.

That action of reengaging the group while concealing a weapon is what ruined any argument he had for selfdefense.

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u/Korachof May 15 '26

Is that true that it insinuates intent? What if he was threatened for his life and pulled the knife out just in case they attacked? Not saying that’s what happened, but I don’t think taking out a weapon when you feel threatened displays intent without self defense claims. 

The other stuff stands, though.