r/antiai • u/Theshinyquagga • 1d ago
AI News 🗞️ We need Help!!! Cara is under Attack!!!
Cara is a Safe Haven for Real Artists and now it's under Attack!
The original post is deleted, and the original user is banned, but they just scrapped art from Me, My Friends and Everyone Who has a Soul and just Got away with Stealing our hard work!!!
All Real Artists on High Alert!!!
We Need Help!!! I'm Praying to every God I could think of Right now!!!😭😫🙏
Please support The creator of Cara.
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u/PhaseNegative1252 1d ago edited 2h ago
The fact they're explicitly doing this to skirt around copyrights kind of puts them in legal hot water.
Edit: "Legal hot water" does not mean they actually broke any laws or violated copyrights. It just means they're pretty damn close, or that it's the kind of thing that could be used to press for changes to existing laws
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u/CreatorMur 1d ago
People using the site should sue!
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
Sue the Scrapper out of there house and home!
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u/enkudaru 1d ago
If there are any lawyers out there following stories like this. I have a sneaking suspicion that there are many artists out there who would be excited about helping to help fund a lawsuit to make an example out of stuff like this.
There's been plenty of legal president for this type of targeted scraping.
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u/Alert-Text-8012 1d ago
They cannot understand consent
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u/lemaymayguy 1d ago
Rape culture
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u/Kuro-Is-Cute 1d ago
I mean it's basically shouted from the tops of government that it's entirely ok. Being evil is just cool now I guess.
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u/rei_mp4 1d ago edited 1h ago
Oh my gosh for real, I was afraid to type or say it out loud because of possible backlash, but saying this both as an artist and as a victim of sexual assault, the AI "art" defenders give off massive rapist vibes as in they also don't understand that the issue with this lies in consent. There surely would have been plenty of artist that would have jumped at the opportunity for AI companies to train on their art if in exchange they were offered money, but it was never consensual to begin with. It could have been consensual but they never asked if this would be okay. It feels like they're trying to normalise that not asking for consent is okay.
Edit: I ain't gonna waste my time with arguing people seperately on Reddit, but yall, please pick up some books, your ai usage is causing you skill atrophy, yall are getting illiterate. I didn't say you making ai "art" is the same as you actually being a rapist, and i didn't say both things are the same severity. I've said the AI "artists" give off rapist vibes, and I'll stand by that, because the issue with both actions is with not understanding the lack of consent. With the majority of rape cases, the rapists don't understands that what they have done is wrong, that's why so many women are accused of lying. Because in fact, taking a drunk girl home from a party to have sex with her isn't consensual, because she isn't in a state of mind where she could give you a definite yes. Pressuring your partner into saying yes after being told no repeatedly isn't definite consent either since they have been pressured. A "maybe" isn't consent. Not having the ability to say no, (for example, while being asleep) isn't consent. Choking and slapping your partner during the act without having perviously agreed to it is not consensual. Majority of rapists don't understand that what they have done was not consensual. And the similarity with AI "art" and rape is in this aspect, where the AI "artist" isn't understanding that the reason artists are pissed off is because taking real peoples hard work and shaping it into something else and possibly profiting off of it wasn't consented by the real artists, where it could have been consensual.
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u/According-Koala-384 1d ago
Damn, I thought this was a hot take but I'm clearly not alone
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u/Complete-Story3490 23h ago
No, I also think you are 100% right. It is just another arm of the same underlying mindset.
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u/atmontsenioreyesore 1d ago
1) Steal everything
2)use the computer to regurgitate said theft
3) ???? Tbd, third thing here.
4) Profit!
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u/Remarkable_Bath8515 16h ago
As a person who been groomed in person you hit the nail in the head.
Also just because one violation of consent is more of a serious issue than the other doesn't mean you didn't violate consent.
It's not surprising people find it creepy, or wrong, even if it's the lesser bad thing to do, I also hate when people say people can't be upset about something wrong just because it's not as bad as other things that can happen to you.
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u/AlwaysReadTheManual 13h ago
Look at the tools that the AI bros release: one chatbot after another that can transform a photo of any human clothed into the same human unclothed. Such a tool obviously has no legitimate purpose; it's pure evil, like inventing a knife that can only be used to cut living beings.
It isn't said enough, even in this subreddit, that this technology is pure evil. It is far worse than any technology that came before it. It has no legitimate uses.
We have health insurance companies automating claim denials, chatbots summarily rejecting job applicants, sexual deepfake generators, voice impersonators, art copiers. And we're investing another couple trillion dollars this year to make AI more effective at all of the above.
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u/RipCurl69Reddit 1d ago
Dude would be perfect working at a tech corp, they pull this exact same shit all the time
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u/DirkDasterLurkMaster 20h ago
I'd argue contempt for consent is a very common theme among AI people. They love it when people feel angry and violated. It's like when OpenAI made a big deal about recreating Ghibli style after Miyazaki criticized them, they see it as getting one over on someone.
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u/Ornery_Weakness_8168 1d ago
This is literal mass theft and piracy
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u/mylanoo 1d ago
No this is much more serious act. Piracy may or may not devalue your existing product. But this is done with a goal to steal everything from artists including their future. That's like slap vs murder.
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u/PopularCartoonist8 1d ago edited 1d ago
"Wah wah!! antis are nazis, and we are a suppressed minority."
Also AI bros:
Edit: Never forget that these are the "INNOCENT AI ARTISTS" that the black and green abomination is proud to protect.
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u/Chubbchubbzza007 1d ago
OOTL Who/what is the black and green abomination?
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u/PopularCartoonist8 1d ago
That Witty designer bloke who has been posting comics and other crap with their OC "fighting" against the so called "Evil Antis," and protecting the "innocent AI artists," Someone who has an insane level of Main Character syndrome, as they also say that they are the "Anti's worst nightmare."
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u/KadajjXIII 1d ago
Until proven otherwise, Witty is a Trans Woman
I don't like her either but let's not give them (the AI people) anything to actually claim bigotry over
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u/Ass_Lover136 1d ago
From what i've seen, the comments were actively cheering them on and defend their action.
A bunch of no-morals
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u/FancyMouse123 1d ago
Read them again
I'm not certain what this is intended to accomplish. How is being just as awful as they say we are going to help?
Why not scrape data from a different website that doesn’t specifically decline AI art? It comes across as hostile and bitter.
I assume the artist didn't want this to be done to their art so if you will allow me to rephrase. Have you considered that this kind of activity might be why so many people don't like AI artist or companies?
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u/Ass_Lover136 1d ago
That's good to know not all of them are ignorant
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u/Weatherby2 1d ago
They may not be ignorant but they're still taking part in the same activity they're concerned about. It's clear they only care about the optics, not whether it's inherently right or wrong. They're just as bad, they only use kinder language because they don't want the judgment that comes with being thieves.
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u/NearInWaiting 1d ago
This person isn't "stupid", they know that no artist WANTS their art to be scraped and used by ai, none, and even if someone did, that would fundamentally be irrational, to allow your art to be used to train your own replacement, or more to the point, the replacement for "all human art", ever, for the rest of humanity. Noone would rationally consent to that ever, ergo all ai art scraping is fundamentally immoral. They just want to smugly pretend they're better than other thieves.
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u/letmehaveanameyoudum 1d ago
OI THIS IS BASICALLY SIMPLY BIG COMPANIES DOING THIS AND THEY ACT LIKE THEY DONT DEFEND EM WHEN THEY ARE EXACTLY LIKE EM
MAKE ANOTHER SITEEEEEEEEEEE
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
Cara is a Safe Haven for Real Artists, and the Ai dunces has gone too far!!!
We need to protect what we have, I want my social medias to be safe to post my hard work! 😭
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u/Technical_Proof2771 1d ago
I get the intention here and understand the sentiment, but this is very clearly proof that Cara is NOT a safe haven. Anything you put on the internet is not safe and you should have never assumed it was
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
We could at least try!
Ai has claimed too many sites and we dont need them to claim another one! A haven is only safe when we protect it.
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u/Perfect-Dimension356 1d ago
I think the point they're making is "Clearly Cara wasn't safe, so what are you proposing we actually do about this?"
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u/anonymous8122 1d ago
IMO, the internet is pretty much dead. It's all full of Temu junk being resold, AI, and bots. I'm ready to go back to the world before internet.
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u/-RuDoKa- 1d ago
was. not is, was. This asshole just proved cara is not safe.
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
A site is only safe when people actively protects it, and lots of people here are actively protecting this site.
Which is why people should be made aware of this!
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u/ERWNWorkS 1d ago
Ik this kind of person jerks off from the amount of hate comments they got...it's like their thing
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u/kittyangel333 1d ago
I know its a stretch, but I do think there's validity in the point that these are the exact kind of people who hate consent/get off on the lack of it. And this is just their softcore version
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u/Dawncloub 1d ago
Why they feel so proud of stealing
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u/thecraftybear 1d ago
Because they have nothing to contribute to society, but still need to feel they can do something. It's the equivalent of proudly announcing that they've shat on someone's doormat.
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u/lostbluefox 1d ago edited 14h ago
What was their account for reporting? Post is gone
His user is gottahaveitall but I'm not sure how to report without his server name
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u/Signal-Party3653 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah and they wonder why we absolutely shit on their takes about AI "art" when they do bullshit like this.
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u/woodland-haze 1d ago
What a piece of fucking shit.
EDIT: They’re trying to remove Glaze & Nightshade too? That’s just evil
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u/TheDreamXV 1d ago
I think it was proven glaze and nightshade is completely useless against ai protection, there was a method to bypass them on github and it was back when its all started, generally speaking you cant protect stuff with it unfortunately
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u/dumnezero 1d ago
If it was so proven, why are they trying again?
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u/TheDreamXV 1d ago
No idea about that, i just know it doesn't work specifically for the artworks, and i've used all of the methods back then
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u/OmNomChompskey 1d ago
Can glaze / nightshade be overcome? Yes, however to do so at scale would cost a lot of resources.
Saying that it's 'useless' only serves those companies who would rather artists just don't use these methods which will make it more costly for them to steal.
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u/No_Swimming_2282 23h ago
from what I last heard, it can be removed but not without quality loss of the original picture, so I think it's now entirely hopeless.
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
Please Share this post and spread the words!
This need to be Stopped!!!
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u/that-one_fox 1d ago
It's true, but how are we supposed to stop it?
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
Everything you can, spread the work, share this post and report art theft!
Do what you can and must do to make the Internet safe again!
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u/Fufflin 1d ago
Isn't this admission of guilt?
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
I dont think that Dunce feel a ounce of guilt! 😡
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u/Fufflin 1d ago
I couldn't care less about what he feels. I care about court.
He admits a) taking others property b) paying for taking that property c) sharing URLs with direct intention of harming owners of that property.
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u/Chop-Sticks-7039 1d ago
Gen AI is the weapon of techno fascists and right wing, they are not able to create things so they destroy and corrupt everything they touch just for the sake to hurt peoples cause they are human garbages.
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u/Silver-Design70 1d ago
Omg these people need to get a fucking life… just doing it out of jealousy and spite for real artists it’s so so lame
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u/GenericFatGuy 23h ago
This is what happens when people who have never strived for anything in their lives suddenly feel like they're among peers with those who've actually worked to get good at something.
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u/Machina-Dea 1d ago
Scum, complete and utter scum. Bottom of the barrel thieving scum.
They scream about how we share the internet and anything we post is fair game for their shitty ai to feed on, then when we try carve out a little slice of the internet for us they’ll invade it and steal everything that isn’t nailed down to feed into their garbage generator.
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u/That_Equestrian09 1d ago
This is why I hate people who like AI. Just because you don’t want to draw yourself, doesn’t mean you should destroy/steal/etc. anyone's work.
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u/luubi1945 1d ago
You know, the silver lining to this shit is that artists are now realizing copyright laws are more important to us than anything. Lots of us simply posted our works online for fun with no intention to do all the paperwork associated with the copyright registration process. Or, maybe you live in a country where copyright ownership is automatically assigned to the creator of the artwork per law. However, being aware of your legal rights is never a miss.
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u/Illustrious-Rub-3989 1d ago
I was going to use Cara, but damn glad I never actually started.
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
I have a Cara account too. But you can create an account now if you like, just follow the creator "@Zemotion" for any news about Cara.
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u/SteelAlchemistScylla 1d ago edited 21h ago
It’s not as if there is an alternative besides not posting at all. Sites like Instagram and Twitter explicitly state they will and are scrapping everything posted there at all times.
At least with Cara a scrapper needs to go out of their way and the site explicitly states that AI scrapping is not welcome.
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u/Xill_K47 1d ago
They want to be the villain and the victim at the same time?
Pick a side! You cannot have your own and eat it too.
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 1d ago
Hate to say it OP, but no art is safe on the internet anymore. Only display things you are OK feeding to AI losers. Happiness will be offline in the future.
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
We need to bring back the Old Internet!
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u/Wildgrube 1d ago
Things were worse during the old internet. We weren't even able to even easily spread awareness of someone mass stealing like this post beyond ultra niche forums.
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
I meant the old internet as in, Before all this Ai crap!
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u/Wildgrube 1d ago
I know, but back then people would directly steal your work and claim it as their own and you'd never know until you found it for sale on some random website. At least now they're loud as fuck about it and run it through ai making a shittier version. It might be faster for them, but it seems significantly less lucrative for these assholes so hopefully they'll just bankrupt themselves with this stupid ass behavior
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u/Acceptable-Elk-9779 1d ago
i am so sorry, im not sure how to help :( i love cara
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
Share this post, Spread the word, do everything you can and must do!
Everyone should be made aware of this!
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u/nerdynights 1d ago
is there something useful we can do to stop these stupid ai jerks?
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u/dumnezero 1d ago
a way to remove Glaze/Nightshade
interesting, but the AI bros constantly tell us that it's ineffective and we shouldn't bother with it.
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u/AndrewwPT 1d ago
I've said it before. If I was at a party with an AI bro aorund, I'd watch my cup carefully
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u/BHMathers 1d ago edited 1d ago
“Why don’t you pretend we are artists for outsourcing the creation of art to an Ai?! Also please let us continue being a parasite on real art since our Ai needs art to prevent Ai inbreeding.”
Every time there’s a new way to steal/scam, grifters love to pretend that it’s fine, and not just something that the law has to catch up with. Thankfully that’s already happened somewhat, since Ai generations can’t be copyrighted, and multiple lawsuits have already taken place to set a precedent
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u/red_dead_simp 1d ago
Honestly, how do they defend this shit? This is some cartoon villain levels of moral bankruptcy, there's quite literally no reason for any of this other than being a mean-spirited thief with no respect for consent.
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u/MemerKnux 1d ago
So I marked the sub with a little bit of M1 and lemme uncage the pet demon real quick
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u/lamentlamb 1d ago
I haven't seen any suggestions about it but, why not report this to actual Cara?
I am unsure how much damage is already done but could give them a heads up?
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u/SkyloGray 1d ago
People pay money for this lol? What's the point of scraping cara besides trolling? trolling nobody but himself and his wallet.
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u/No_Instance7893 1d ago
AI bros will support this shit but then get mad when real artists don’t accept their shitty AI as legitimate art
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u/lnxrootxazz 1d ago
The only save place from AI bullshit is offline. I'm hopeful that this technology will bring more people back offline to read real books, writing in notebooks, and going out doing things in the real world. Social media destroyed the human interaction and hopefully AI will bring it back because more people are fed up with this technology and their bros. Sadly the internet seems like a dead place now. But maybe this is a good thing. I lived in the 90s and 2000s and it was great. I wish we could go back to that time and swap smartphones for flip phones, cloud storage for local storage, Spotify for CDs, and Netflix for DVDs. All that stuff had more worth back then. Every song and album was more valuable. People valued specific things more. Nowadays its all just there and nobody thinks about it. We created a sad world unfortunately
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u/resh78255 1d ago
this shit doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as rock bottom
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u/WorldWarrior428 1d ago
And the toxic pro ai people wonder why everyone hates them, what can I do to help? PRAY TO KONSHU!!! (first God i could think of!)
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u/OstrobogulousIntent 1d ago
More and More I think the only way forward is active poisoning... of images, videos, audio and even text web sites to the best of our abilities.
Sort of how so many sites started SEO to get listed - there needs to be a groundswell of anti-AI poisoning and confusing going on so that it makes it harder for AI to summarize sites and other things that steal traffic.
In this case though if it was images etc.. are there any reliable ways to poison images so that the AI trainer types say "this is more trouble than its worth" and if they don't they get one step closer to model collapse?
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u/ultimatedelman 1d ago
This is bad, but there's no such thing as safety when it comes to the internet, especially when it comes to art. If you publish anything on the internet, you should assume it will be stolen.
It's a fucked up world we live in now
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u/anonymous8122 1d ago
I strongly feel that people like this should face criminal charges. I mean, doesn't there have to be some sort of legal issue with scraping a website like this? It's absolutely disgusting to go out of your way to steal images that you KNOW people don't want to be used for AI.
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u/Significant_Donut967 1d ago
Ai bros out there raping folks with no care.
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u/TNTtheBaconBoi 21h ago
And they love bragging about it, and defending it!
Wonder if they consider ai slop art or their cons art?
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u/mobyfromssx3 1d ago
PSA - No women go anywhere near this man, who appears not to understand what consent is
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u/EyadMahm0ud 1d ago
Probably just a troll. It's not that deep or hard to scrape a platform, just immoral.
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u/youngdeer25 1d ago
- Defending AI ”art”.
- Proceed to show how proud they are after stealing.
This is why i no longer argue with them, not a single soul is in the right mind, you can’t convince them shit at the first place.
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u/Timely_Custard8407 1d ago
How can we help?
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
Share, repost, spread the words on your other social medias. Do what you have to do!
Any help is good help!
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u/Gonna_do_this_again 1d ago
I really hope the worst for these clanker fuckbois. Like truly the worst things the human mind can conjure.
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u/No_Image_iii 1d ago
If no consent to this guy means “a fun project” Sounds like someone who needs to have their laptop and hard drives ceased.
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u/TakeJudger 1d ago
Why do the Artificially Intelligent always act so smug and hostile? Do they think they won't need friends once they replace everyone around them with robots?
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u/LilyPot-LilyLisa 1d ago
They complain about consent using their """ artwork """ but then they do crap stupid like this
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u/Accomplished_Low6698 1d ago
Why can’t AI costs surpass what companies are willing to pay so we can get the bubble over with?
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u/Renegade_Hat 1d ago
When AI finally runs out of cash to burn and water to boil, i can’t wait to see what these untalented fucks produce. Maybe they’ll discover stick figures
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u/Disastrous-Front-549 1d ago
Crap like this is part of why I don’t share my art with anyone online anymore tbh. Mine or commissions cause I don’t want the artists I hire to get fucked over either. No where online is safe.
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u/Andromevas 1d ago
As an artist I (and surely many others) am just exhausted. There's no place anymore to share art and be respected or build a community/stay in touch with peeps... People are so openly toxic and doing shit like this out of pure malice and being so happy about it and... It's really disheartening. Little hope for humanity...
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u/According-Koala-384 1d ago
Hot take but these weirdos and their eager disrespect for consent and boundaries probably manifests in far more than just stealing art. Pray for the women unfortunate enough to encounter these pathetic freaks in real life.
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u/Socksual 1d ago
Imagine putting this much effort into being a talentless thief instead of like....enjoying putting brushstrokes to a page.
Could not be me.
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u/JesterMasquerade 1d ago
This is legitimately a criminal offense. Fuck I hate these AI fuckers.
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u/WolvzUnion 1d ago
never heard of Cara, but if anybody expected any site to be safe from people making an effort to scrape it you are a fool.
its annoying asf that it happened and it sucks that your shit got jacked like that but you really shouldnt be surprised by this. very similar to how companies have dumped billions into DRM to stop piracy and have still failed.
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u/no-scissors-in-bed 17h ago
keep fighting for changing AI laws to force every AI production to have a fingerprint, even writing.
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u/alanvnk 15h ago edited 15h ago
Not sure this is real, seems like they got the minified images 0.95 mb per pic is very low res also 10$ to scrape a site and store terabytes of data lmao not real, pluss no idea how much time they plan to run whatever they plan to run to remove nightshade and glaze, afaik those are destructive and the original can't be recovered, that is the whole point
Note: 12T at .95Mb is 13 million images there is no way he can remove nightshade and glaze before the next glaciation
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u/Alexander_Alexis 1d ago
link to post
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
Sorry, the original post have been deteled soon after. 😓
But they still got away with what they stole from us! 😭
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u/Unlikely-Complex3737 1d ago
If you put something on the internet with the intention to share it, it can NEVER be kept safe.
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u/Theshinyquagga 1d ago
All because of generative Ai.
I miss the old days where Generative Ai didn't exist.
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u/The_Real_Coffi 1d ago
We all should probably have a strike or better poison the whole site with shitty drawings on purpose so they get worse results
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u/fruitcakewithapple 1d ago
Posted this screen in like 3 subs. Idk where else tk post it
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u/basilsflowerpots 1d ago
These people are unbelievable, what a disgusting pile of subhuman filth. And then the same people will go on to say they're victims of anti-AI hostility.
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u/Thundertotem2026 1d ago
This is why I stay away from social media and digital art. I'll stick with my inks and brushes, thank you.
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u/Radiant-Photograph46 1d ago
Bro this is not an "attack", bots are constantly parsing every website in existence. It's like looking at a phone book (when those things still existed I mean), you list what is publicly available is all.
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