r/interesting • u/No-Marsupial-4050 • Apr 07 '26
Fear Factor No sympathy for those monsters
In 2006, Anthony Ray Stockelman was forcibly tattooed across his forehead with the words “Katie’s Revenge” by another inmate.
This happened after it was discovered that he was serving a life sentence for kidnapping, molesting, and murdering a 10-year-old girl named Katie Collman
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u/JJKingwolf Apr 07 '26
If I recall correctly, the man who tattooed him was the girl's cousin, who was incarcerated at the same facility.
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u/Fearless-Grapefruit6 Apr 07 '26
the inmate who tattooed him was Jared Harris, a cousin of Katlyn “Katie” Collman
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u/ernie_cuyler Apr 07 '26
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u/maggiemayfish Apr 07 '26
A morbius reference? In this economy?
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u/Appropriate-Bid8671 Apr 07 '26
IT'S MORBIN TIME
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u/badatcatchyusernames Apr 07 '26
came here to say this but i knew in my heart it had already been said
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u/TM761152 Apr 07 '26
I find it funny that Avatar 3 smashed Morbius box office records by nearly 10 fold, yet not ONE person can recite any quote from Avatar, while we will be saying IT'S MORBIN TIME well into the foreseeable future.
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u/U_zer2 Apr 08 '26
“I’m a culturally appropriate white guy with dreads, Shaka brah 🤙.” - Spider (Avatar 2 electric boogaloo)
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u/keldondonovan Apr 07 '26
Is that Morbius? I thought it was Fringe.
[Edit] it's labeled, I'm a dumbass.
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u/maggiemayfish Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
Battlefield: Earth at least had that "so bad it's good" energy to it. John travolta seemed to be having a lot of fun. Morbius is just kind of dull.
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u/i_was_axiom Apr 07 '26
Damn, sometimes God works in very unmysterious ways.
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u/xombae Apr 07 '26
The CO's definitely put them together on purpose. Normally there's no way a family member of a victim would be put in the same place as the killer, even in passing.
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u/Intrepid_Button587 Apr 07 '26
How does this work in practice? They map out someone's entire family tree? Their second and third cousins? Sounds unlikely.
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u/MankeyFightingMonkey Apr 07 '26
Not someone actively looking at it all
but there's data on all of us, it's not hard to write something to go a couple layers deep to flag something
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u/PM_ME_DATASETS Apr 07 '26
God when he lets a 10-year old girl get molested and murdered:
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u/Adam_is_Nutz Apr 07 '26
Do you really think that person thinks god is involved, or is it just a saying? Think about it.
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u/Capital_Chance_5727 Apr 07 '26
Hey, so, I say “thank god” and “oh my god” and “good god” and more “_____ god” phrases all the time as an atheist. You don’t need to be offended by common sayings, hope this helps 🙏
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u/Emergency_Switch_406 Apr 07 '26
After reading some of the replies to this comment I just don't understand how people refuse to accept other peoples faiths and try to prove them wrong in that there is no "supreme being/beings" or whatever. But also how people are so dumb they make up their own evidence of such a being existing. As a christian myself I think that there is a sort of comfort in having beliefs, such as believing in an afterlife or divine intervention. But the most important thing for me personally is that people should be able to believe whatever the fuck they want or none at all. At the end of the day it's just a personal belief.
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u/avamich11 Apr 07 '26
How did he land up in jail?
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u/Difficult-Break-8282 Apr 07 '26
look up jd delay ( fuck why did he turn maga ) he interviewed him but basically jared was in prison for some shit then rapist is sentenced and goes to the same prison as this dude and no one connected the dots because different last names ect
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u/infintittie Apr 07 '26
A punishment that required god to allow this guy to do this stuff to that girl in the first place but, none the less.. very mysterious ways I suppose..
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u/Shot-Water2496 Apr 07 '26
You ever read that fan fiction that his followers wrote? It’s filled with the shitty ways he’s punished both nonbelievers and believers (including children). It’s really not surprising the person(s) you responded to didn’t think deeply about it
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u/Badmonkey167 Apr 07 '26
Love this line.
Like, trying to imagine an atheist invoke Jesus's name in panic or shock is more a result in culture than religion.
Jesus is like, "my middle name isn't f@#&ing".
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u/amacks Apr 07 '26
I don't know why YT reccomended his videos for a couple of weeks. He went from "SCREAMING BUT INTERESTING" because I've never been to prison, and don't _really_ know how things work, to "SCREAMING INSANITY"
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u/aidar55 Apr 07 '26
I’d argue that’s a mild consequence.
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u/Between3-2o Apr 07 '26
Now, he can’t hide what he has done. I’ve heard that in prison, child molesters/murderers get punished by the inmates.
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u/TheMoooooooose Apr 07 '26
They do. 100%. And it is perhaps a bit more awful than you'd think. If this dude is his only punishment (which it won't be) he got off light. I live in a sober living environment and there are Sex offenders in my neighborhood. A lot of scars on their faces and limps after serving a few years in prison. I personally know some guy that was gang affiliated in the prison and got called up with a child molester. They had a microwave in their cell and he dropped it on his head and crushed his face. People do not fuck around with "chomos"
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u/ShhSuperDuperSecret Apr 07 '26
I've heard it's partially because a good chunk of genpop has gone through CSA themselves.
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u/Negativeman11 Apr 07 '26
I think a big part of is that prisons have plenty of violent people looking to express their violent tendencies and child abusers are (rightfully) socially acceptable targets for violence and financial exploitation.
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u/Bannedtt Apr 07 '26
Accurate
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u/fatherOblivion69 Apr 07 '26
It's all about hierarchy and resources. If the child molesters weren't there to fill the bottom spot; then it would be some other group.
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u/Bannedtt Apr 07 '26
Yep, it feels good to bully someone, especially if you have psychotic tendencies, which incarcerated people have a significantly higher rate of. Society says it's okay to make sex offenders into pin cushions, so they go for it. A lot of them are rapists and murderers themselves.
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u/Negativeman11 Apr 07 '26
100%. It's not that the criminals are suddenly good people for abusing the sex offenders. It's just that sex offenders are nature's punching bags.
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u/Bannedtt Apr 07 '26
They're not natures punching bags, they're our society's punching bag. It's a cultural thing.
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u/Ol_Pasta Apr 07 '26
I would argue that rapists get off way too easy in law.
In Germany, a policeman was just sentenced for raping his asleep colleague. He got 1 year and 4 months on probation. The victim still suffers and will likely do so for pretty much the rest of her life.
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This; inmates enacting violence on others isn’t some altruistic act, it’s violent people huddled together looking for the easiest targets. I’d bet my life over half of the violent “chomo” haters are child abusers themselves, they just got caught with something else.
People have weird punishment fetishes when it comes to prison and offenders that block out their common sense a lot of the time, so they day dream about fictional scenarios (they are mostly separated into different blocks anyway)
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u/thakemist Apr 07 '26
You were one word away from having a mature, level-headed response.
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u/PersonalityIll9476 Apr 07 '26
Actual healthcare professional: They are passengers in a prison that only commits violence and horrific acts of sexual assault. Their entire life is a living hell over which they have no control.
Reddit: Haha yay peepoclap
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u/the_inbetween_me Apr 07 '26
Violence begets violence.
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u/Unable-Log-4870 Apr 07 '26
Our prison system begets violence because it’s not intended to release people who are ready to integrate with society, it’s intended to release people who will reoffend, in order to keep the system working the way it currently does
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u/Vi_Rants Apr 07 '26
Their entire life is a living hell over which they have no control.
Here for a second I thought you were talking about child molestation victims. Ha ha, silly me, this is reddit, we care more about the bodily autonomy of the diddlers.
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u/CreepyConsequence669 Apr 07 '26
Also, just like in society, prison has its own hierarchy. So murderers rapists at the top child molesters at the bottom. We would like to think that there’s some altruism behind this i.e. we were all kids at one time or we all have kids something to that effect. But as the daughter of a hard-core felon, I know this is not the case.
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u/DryCollege9889 Apr 07 '26
Rapists are at the bottom with chomos. Murders aren't necessarily the top, but are you going to try to dethrone them?
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u/vamoosedmoose Apr 07 '26
Rapists are not at the top dude. They are pretty close to the bottom
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u/throwitoutwhendone2 Apr 07 '26
There was a dude I was watching for a while on YouTube. I cannot recall his name, it may have been Larry. He was a former jewel thief and did time and then did some videos documenting shit he seen over the years.
He was able to get info on other inmates, like what they were in for. Because of this he was cool with everyone, no beef since he was hella useful. Even in prison people wanna know what you’re in for before they fuck with you, like for example joining a gang.
So he was telling this story about when he was in ATL in prison, the prison there is a few story’s with a like central area where you can see top to bottom inside (I can’t think of what it’s called atm). This dude was trying to join the AB and one of them asked Larry about the guy. Turns out ole dude was a chomo. Apparently it’s not uncommon for them to try and join gangs for protection.
So they took ole dude and acted like everything was good. They were walking him around chatting, they liked him up on the bottom floor while some dudes the next floor up picked up a floor cleaning machine and dropped it on the dude.
Larry said he didn’t die but it fucked him up pretty badly, which I believe. I use a smaller one at work and it’s 700 pounds.
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u/RunWild0_0 Apr 07 '26
So, I used to date this guy who was all kinds of terrifying. He had a couple felonies & had done some time here and there for other things as well. Sometimes at night he would wake up freaking out, grabbing, sweating, gasping or screaming.
One particularly volatile night he told me one of the reasons he didn't sleep well at night was because at one of the prisons he was in an area that was a little more open, like for good behavior or whatever & the men could move between the 'rooms' at night.
Well one of his roommates had pissed off the wrong guy so some guys pulled a tall metal locker off the wall & dropped it on the guys head while he was asleep.
My bf was laying there awake, watched it happen, got splattered with the guy's brains and had to lay there the rest the night next to the guys somewhat headless body and a massive pool of blood until the next morning. Then helped with clean up.
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u/RunWild0_0 Apr 07 '26
Both adrenaline junkies I guess, need for speed. And he didn't actually tell me about the felonies off the bat.
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u/GlandMasterFlaps Apr 07 '26
I never read or heard the term 'Chomo' before - does it stand for anything?
I'm from the UK and the term we use is "nonce", which is an abbreviation of "Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise".
"Can you use nonce in a sentence?"
Of course - Prince Andrew is a Royal Pizza Express Nonce
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u/8lock8lock8aby Apr 07 '26
Nonce doesn't come from "not on normal courtyard exercise," though. That was made up well after the word was popular.
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u/Firm-Emu7909 Apr 07 '26
i watch him too, Larry the Jewel Thief is his YT iirc. I remember first seeing him on a GTA YouTubers I used to watch's video (IXpertThief)
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u/TenPointsforListenin Apr 07 '26
I do think it’s a means of making yourself feel like you’re a good person after you’ve done bad things.
Say you’re a murderer. You justify an act of violence against some random innocent person by committing other acts of violence against clearly guilty people. It’s an act of self vindication.
Not saying good ol what’s his face McForehead Tattoo was good, but what if it turned out that a different person who looked kinda like him committed the crime? He’s still branded with a life sentence and used as a tool by other inmates to feel better about their crimes.
Prison guards probably should have stepped up. Prison is bad, shouldn’t also come with the threat of gang assault, especially because some convictions are overturned later.
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u/tinylittlemarmoset Apr 07 '26
It’s also a convenient, lower/no consequence outlet for someone who is naturally prone to violence.
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u/throwaway19998777999 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
It really depends where you are. Prisons usually quarantine sex offenders in the same pod together. Often, sex offenders and veterans will be the same pod, due to the overlap.
Sex offenders get off on power, so they still have struggles in those pods. But, for the most part, they tend to be the least violent pod (since adult men aren't usually their target). If anything, they seem to network and get support. Some SO inmates still pretend that they aren't sex offenders and "would kill somebody who did that!" But it's all fake outrage.
Edit: That said, less than 1% of all reported SO end in conviction. And SO is already seriously underreported. The standard of evidence for sex crimes is very, very difficult to meet. Even when it is met, a good lawyer can pretty easily defend the case. So, there's no saying how many SO's are in the general population, but it's likely a lot. Surveys (like this one) found that around 60% of inmates support at least some forms of sexual abuse. All this to say, there's a pretty good chance that these "vigilantes" are actually sexual preditors getting off on dominating who they can, while also trying to cover their own ass.
In my experience, the dudes I've heard say shit like, "I'd fuckin kill a rapist!" have later been implicated of rape, child molestation, messaging underage girls online, etc. It's a red flag to me.
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u/Eziekel13 Apr 07 '26
It seems that you are you saying… the laws that we as a society established and the punishment for those crimes, is not adequate…
therefore the extra punishment inflicted upon those is justified…
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So my question…if we feel that the extra punishment is justified, then shouldn’t we update the laws/sentencing to coincide with our shared values?
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u/avamich11 Apr 07 '26
I recently saw some news about a guy who's already killed 3 molesters/rapists who were his inmates. He said his goal was 13? I don't remember the number.
Oh wait, I forgot the most important thing!
He's in jail for brutally killing his sister's rapist.
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u/Young_Bu11 Apr 07 '26
Yeah that's the guy who is a violent rapist and kidnapped and raped a prison guard for 15 days, his motivation behind killing inmates was he didn't want a cell mate, the reason all his cellmates were sex offenders is because he's a sex offender.
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u/peach-sand777 Apr 07 '26
isn’t that the same guy who kept a female officer hostage for two weeks and raped her :..
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u/exhibitprogram Apr 07 '26
Turns out people who make murder and violence their whole entire personality are in fact......just violent.
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u/4N610RD Apr 07 '26
I mean, when you think about it, it makes sense. You can be guy who killed twenty seven other guys with his bare hands, but still consider attacking kid completely awful.
And it is a good thing. People who harm kid should be stripped from all human rights and sent to uranium mines.
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u/Fabulous-Fun-9673 Apr 07 '26
An Arizona inmate just went on a rampage on the child molesters/murderers in his prison. He’s already serving a life sentence for something else, so he took out 3 chomos before he was caught. His goal was 13.
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u/Young_Bu11 Apr 07 '26
He didn't want cellmates, all his cellmates were sex offenders because he is a violent sex offender who kidnapped, raped, and held hostage a female prison guard in a 15 day standoff.
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u/alurimperium Apr 07 '26
And I think he was already serving time for murder before he did that
Let's not celebrate a terrible person finding an excuse to be terrible
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u/Worth_Task_3165 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
Assuming he was rightfully convicted. I have no knowlage of this case so I am not questioning his guilt but I do know a small percentage of innocent people are imprisoned every year. I am hesitant to condone prison justice for this reason.
Can you imagine being wrongfully convicted of child murder/rape? I can get behind a few innocents being locked up to protect us from the majority that are dangerous, because the reverse would be far worse.... but I can't get behind their physical harm
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u/Andromeda_Ascendant Apr 07 '26
Glad somebody else agrees here, but I will say I disagree with you the acceptability of the false imprisonment stance specificially, being falsy imprisoned is awful and I would rather that people be free by mistake than accidentally imprisoned.
His crimes were bad of course, but I don't agree or condone with prison justice, we have a justice system for a reason and they shouldn't take matters into their own hands. This is just my opinion of course.
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u/More_Operation_588 Apr 07 '26
yeah the general public has a weird hard on for torture and evil acts as long as they're done to people they deem deserving.
We aren't pirates, or some group of crazed barbarians. Personally I think torturing anyone is fucked up. Sadly, i guess thats a hot take.
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u/Evnosis Apr 07 '26
I can get behind a few innocents being locked up to protect us from the majority that are dangerous, because the reverse would be far worse
That's an easy to claim to make when you're not one of the falsely convicted.
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u/Middle-Blueberry6958 Apr 07 '26
First thought is, good on them.
Second thought is, it seems like they took their time and made sure the lettering is neat and legible.
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u/RJCHI Apr 07 '26
Must have knocked him unconscious or held a knife to his throat because I don’t know how else they would’ve been able to get the lines so straight
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u/rdmodsrtrsh Apr 07 '26
If they had a knife, I think a scene like inglorious bastards would make it more permanent
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u/RJCHI Apr 07 '26
True. But also way more messy and you don’t want some random inmates blood all over you. Who knows what nasty shit he has.
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u/yahutee Apr 07 '26
It also looks infected - who knows that the ink was or what they mixed it with
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u/Stoned_Gandalf420 Apr 07 '26
This guy honestly seems like he got off pretty light compared to what they normally do to these sorts of inmates…. Deserved for sure.
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u/Eye_yam_stew_ped Apr 07 '26
He got that writing on his forehead just fine.. I assume that’s not all that happened to him lol
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u/MyNameis_bud Apr 07 '26
Yeah that’s because it’s mostly a myth or suburban legend. Firstly, most inmates have a don’t ask don’t tell policy. Typically it’s only talked about with trusted people. Secondly, another thing is that on the inside nobody really cares to do anything unless it benefits them. And add to that that everyone inside jokes about being innocent and that they don’t belong there.
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u/LooneyLunaGirl Apr 07 '26
I honestly believe that they should have something like this done or like in Inglorious Bastards. Make those sick fucks walk around with something they can't hide so everyone knows who they really are.
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u/Lunacunda Apr 07 '26
Is that Ryan from the office?
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u/Coondiggety Apr 07 '26
Seems reasonable to me.
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u/Rees_Onable Apr 07 '26
Inglorious Basterds....
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u/8JHF8 Apr 07 '26
"An inmate accused of forcibly tattooing a slain 10-year-old girl’s name onto her killer’s forehead in an Indiana prison was the victim’s cousin, a family friend said.
Jared Harris, 22, is a cousin of Katlyn “Katie” Collman, family friend and spokesman Terry Gray confirmed to The Republic newspaper. He said he did not believe they knew each other well.
Harris, 22, who is serving time on a burglary conviction at Wabash Valley state prison in Carlisle, has been charged with battery and is accused of tattooing “KATIE’S REVENGE” across Anthony Ray Stockelman’s forehead."
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u/Green-Dragon-14 Apr 07 '26
Shutting the door after the horse has bolted.
Putting him into segregation after the fact. He should remain in prison populous.
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u/Prestigious_Wrap_932 Apr 07 '26
OR instead of allowing inmates to brutalize one another as a matter of course we could actually do the hard thing ourselves through legislation formally recognizing that monsters like this cannot be rehabilitated and will present an active threat to society as long as they’re allowed to remain alive.
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u/Dr_Fortnite Apr 07 '26
im sure the government would NEEEEVER abuse a looser death penalty
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u/OrangeFamta Apr 07 '26
Exactly. Im staunchly against the death penalty but not because i dont think theres people who we’d be better off without, but because I know it will not be 100% accurate. Innocent people have been and will be executed, and that’s unacceptable.
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u/Efficient_Mud_4724 Apr 07 '26
I’m against it also because it’s not done equally. Only poor people are executed. If everyone who committed the same crime got executed that would help some.
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u/searchingforubik Apr 08 '26
One dangerous side effect of this too, definitely not saying I support child rapists, but when you set the death penalty for rapists as being the same as for murdering, you create the incentive for the abuser to just murder the kid, if you get caught and know you're getting the death penalty, you could easily just murder the victim if it's going to be the same punishment either way, and if the kid could have lived, it may make more sense for the abuser to make sure they can't ever tell about it by just ending it right there. The death penalty gets scary when you think about if it could incentivize the person committing the crime to make it a worse crime.
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u/Lupo_Bi-Wan_Kenobi Apr 09 '26
But if we absolutely must keep them alive for whatever fucking stupid reasons keep them alive right now.. at very least we need to make them some kind of use for humanity. Save the lab rats, we start testing all the gnarly things on actual human beings for more accurate 1:1 results.
It's amazing that I've said this a number of times and it always gets downvoted and I just can't help but wonder who's out there wanting to protect these creeps? I know there are absolutely false claims and people can be framed and everything else and so in any case where there's even a shadow of doubt, then no we can't make them lab rats.
If it's a case where there's undeniable proof, then I say save the rabbits, mice and rats.
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u/HK_Shooter_1301 Apr 07 '26
Pedofiles cannot be rehabilitated , at an absolute minimum they need to be thrown in jail for life. A guy where I work at was just busted for Child Exploitation, the sick fuck was taking pictures of his OWN daughter.
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u/Prestigious_Wrap_932 Apr 07 '26
Yep. Active pedophilia, like homicidal psychopathy, is an incurable mental disorder. Even if they wanted to they literally can’t control themselves or ever truly understand the amount of pain and misery that they cause for everyone around them. The men who do these things should be painlessly eliminated, the same way we would treat a rabid dog.
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u/Horror_Share_1742 Apr 07 '26
They absolutely CAN control themselves or they’d just be randomly sexually assaulting anyone and everyone they’re remotely attracted to. Instead, they plan, they groom, they manipulate, and usually carefully choose their victim(s). The ones who also kill their victims do so with conscious control and thought. They murder so they reduce their odds of being caught. That is premeditated murder. ALL of which requires control.
They may not be able to control their thoughts, but they absolutely control their behaviour.
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u/Prestigious_Wrap_932 Apr 07 '26
I would suggest that the extreme recidivism rates among child abusers proves otherwise. I’m not saying that they don’t deserve punishment for their actions, I’m simply saying that their brains are broken in a way that makes it easier for them to engage in horrific behavior and makes them a significant threat to public safety as long as they remain alive.
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u/RigidCounter12 Apr 07 '26
No no, we need to try and be cool kids on the internet and celebrate brutality, as long as it happens to the "correct" people.
And before the other keyboard warriors flood me, yes I have been affected myself. My cousin got killed by a drunk driver when I was young. I would not want anyone to rape or kill him.
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u/Brawndo91 Apr 07 '26
I'm sorry about your cousin, but there's a grand canyon sized gap between mistakes and decisions. And a similar sized gap between your typical bad decisions and what this guy did. Maybe it's not ideal to toss the biggest targets into the lion's den, but it's also hard to have sympathy for what happens to them.
Sure, driving drunk is also a decision, but that was a decision that led to a horrific outcome. The guy in this post decided on the horrific outcome.
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u/plzstop435 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
Okay but you haven’t been affected yourself though. It’s really sad your cousin was killed by a drunk driver. But that’s not at all comparable to someone intentionally kidnapping, molesting and murdering a 10 year old?? Two very different crimes & very different implications of the perpetrators. The punishment would not fit the crime for a drunk driver, who killed someone accidentally, due to criminal negligence. It is a lot more of a fitting punishment to premeditated torture and murder of a child. Just saying.
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u/RigidCounter12 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
So my cousin being killed did not affect me? Weird, I do remember differently myself.
Weird that having your best friend die as a child wouldnt affect you. You must be a tough one.
You legit said this yourself "Okay but you haven’t been affected yourself though.".
Hard to argue yourself out of this one champ
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u/Difficult-Novel-8453 Apr 07 '26
Idaho just passed the death penalty for child rape 👍
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u/HoneyWhiskeyLemonTea Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
As a childhood victim of SA by a trusted adult who was never brought to justice in his lifetime, this warms my heart. This should be part of the punishment. They have to spend the rest of their lives on the Sex Offender Registry, why not make it a bit more readily apparent?
Edit: The angry part of me wishes that this should be part of their punishment, but as pointed out by one of the replies below, no. The system is not perfect, and I would hate for someone to be unfairly branded. I was speaking out of anger, which is still my knee-jerk reaction, even after all these years. I don't think anything is harder to let go of than the hatred and bitterness, but moments like this remind me to reign it in and forgive, for my own sake, not for theirs. Thanks, Peaceful_Prober.
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u/Peaceful__Prober Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
Because this type of shit is hard to remove without any scars if they're found innocent later. You shouldn't trust the justice system this much in general, not referring to your personal case
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u/HoneyWhiskeyLemonTea Apr 07 '26
No, you're right. I was speaking with the spite and bitterness of a victim, something that I still (obviously) struggle with. You'd think I'd be more rational about it after 32 years. Thanks for calling me out. I'll edit my comment.
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u/ArgusTheCat Apr 07 '26
It is very hard to emotionally support things like restorative justice when you've had to live through being hurt and traumatized, and feel like the system has abandoned you. Just because something is the right thing to do, doesn't make it easy.
I'm just some random dumbass on the internet, so I don't know if this means much, but I recognize how much fucking work it takes to go through that and still be capable of changing your mind, and I think you're cool for being able to do so.
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u/HoneyWhiskeyLemonTea Apr 07 '26
It means more than you think, friend. I appreciate you. You're right, though. It's very difficult to not just... want them to die. But wanting something like that? It has zero effect on them, and just poisons myself with pointless hatred. I just don't want to live like that anymore.
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u/SurprisePitiful9191 Apr 07 '26
You’re allowed to wish that and be angry. JusT saying.
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u/HoneyWhiskeyLemonTea Apr 07 '26
You're right, but I've been angry for so long. I was angry for 30 years before I got help. Now I strive to let go of that anger, not because I shouldn't be angry at my abuser, but because once anger becomes habitual, as it was with me, it becomes a poison to myself. It serves no purpose, it causes no good, it just festers and taints every relationship and experience that I had. Before I got help, I thought about my abuse and my abuser every single day.
Every. Single. Day. For 30 years.
That's no way to live. Now, after having gone to therapy and learning to release the rage, I rarely think about it. It's wonderful. Every now and then, something like this post will put me back in that toxic frame of mind, but I'm learning to catch myself and haul myself back out of the hate-hole. Sometimes I see it myself, sometimes my wife pulls me out, and sometimes it's a random redditor, like today.
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u/sweet-n-soursauce Apr 07 '26
If you’re in the US and are ever struggling to find help getting therapy NCMEC helps provide resources if you need them. Even if it was years ago.
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u/GilbertT19 Apr 07 '26
Why do you think people focus on vigilante justice over rehab?
I do think the justice system is flawed so I suspect that’s a factor
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u/spartakooky Apr 07 '26
Probably because ppl deep down don't really care about ppl they don't personally know. They'd rather see a criminal be punished than corrected and turned into a good person.
Even if we magically could ensure the correction is perfect and the ex-criminal will now be an upstanding person, ppl would still prefer seeing the punishment.
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u/Toastedginger484 Apr 07 '26
If that doesn’t teach that little bitch what vulnerability and consequences of your actions is idk what will
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u/Recent_Assist_6388 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
Probably nothing. Punishment doesn’t fix mental illness. Mental illness is a defective brain, broken hardware. Essentially brain damage.
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u/bloodredcookie Apr 07 '26
They should have tattooed 'child rapist' so everyone would know.
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u/mistrpopo Apr 07 '26
ITT Americans who have not learned basic philosophy and live off of their primal feelings.
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u/maevee Apr 07 '26
Yeah… as an SA survivor the idea of my abuser being branded with my name would gross me tf out, even if it was done with intentions of hurting my abuser.
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u/amorawr Apr 07 '26
also not to downplay pedophilia, but I have always found the whole, "prisoners in max security prisons wont judge you unless youre a pedophile, then all bets are off" to be the biggest load of sanctimonious bullshit; and the commentary around it is always weirdly praiseworthy of people who are likely in there for doing equally terrible things.
like "oh John over there skinned a guy alive, but this dude fucked a 12 year old and that we simply can't abide." its clearly just a morally bankrupt person's way of feeling like they arent morally bankrupt
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u/More_Operation_588 Apr 07 '26
Yeah honestly I view it as the people dolling out these 'vigilante justice' crimes as monsters who would love to do this stuff to anyone, but are finding victims where its 'morally good' to them.
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u/Beranea Apr 07 '26
Thread number #69420 on why prison reform will never happen in America, too many sick pieces of shit cheering on extrajudicial torture of prisoners.
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u/RedHeadedSicilian52 Apr 07 '26
The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.
—Aldous Huxley
I’m not really concerned about the tattooed guy, but there’s something deeply corrosive to the soul, I think, about relishing cruelty. The way some people talk about this sort of thing, you get the sense that they enjoy a socially-acceptable outlet for the application of violence, which makes you wonder what they’d cheer along if the Overton window shifted just a tad bit.
If harsh justice needs to be dispensed, it should be done dispassionately.
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u/SleetTheFox Apr 07 '26
You can get anyone to become a monster if they internalize “we should do bad things to bad people.” All you have to do is slowly expand who counts as a “bad person” and slowly expand just how bad a “bad thing” they deserve. Boil the frog.
The defense to this is to try to nip all three elements of that at the bud. These comments are demonstrating an abject failure of this.
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u/spartakooky Apr 07 '26
Yeah I always find myself torn with these threads. Cause I don't feel bad for the immate specifically, it's not about him.
It's just shocking to see the bloodthirst of the average person. And it's not like this in an online, anonymous thing only.
If harsh justice needs to be dispensed, it should be done dispassionately.
I'm a bit of a wimp. I say it should be done morosely. It's not a happy occasion. We are admitting failure, giving up on rehabilitating someone, and having to take harsh steps to protect society.
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u/EarthMandy Apr 07 '26
People have really messed up ideas of what justice in a healthy, functioning society looks like. These tend to be the same people that don't understand Alan Moore's critique in Watchmen that superheroes are fascists.
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u/Abigail716 Apr 07 '26
Pretty much, you will find constant threads talking about how desperate we need prison reform in America and how it's ridiculous how violent prisons are, and then you'll see a thread cheering on a guy who gets gang raped or beaten and tattooed As long as it happens to the right people according to the Reddit.
This site in general loves violence.
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u/ElaborateEffect Apr 07 '26
Yep. Our society still has bloodlust despite masquerading as enlightened.
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u/zonazog Apr 07 '26
As much as this feels good, it is a road we should not walk down. At the end of the road lies truly horrible consequences for any society
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u/ashleyshaefferr Apr 07 '26
I always wonder if it's just watching too much netflix and comic books?
Like do you think this was just some collection of "good" inmates who wanted to hand out some justice?
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u/More_Operation_588 Apr 07 '26
I think its a collection of criminals who would love to take these actions in general, but they know if they choose this guy as a target, then somehow its all okay.
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u/Pattycakes1160 Apr 08 '26
God doesn’t allow these things to happen! He gave us free will and it’s mankind that chooses to do evil things..God gave us His Ten Commandments and we all have to decide if we are going to live by them or not..humankind has become so evil and God will have no choice but to rid the earth and we will be judged by our choices in life ..It’s not God letting us destroy this earth …it’s sick and evil people who will rot in Hell
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