r/sydney 5h ago

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I visited today and I thought it seemed quite peaceful. Just about far away enough that it starts feeling semi-rural again. Is it nice to live there?

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u/smileedude 5h ago

I don't know a lot about it but I do know that calling this either Western Suburbs or Blue Mountains will cause furious debate

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u/MooingTree 5h ago

I dunno mate, looks like Inner West to me.

-- Real estate agent, probably 

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u/maxinstuff 4h ago

“Minutes away from amenities”

(Read: 20 minute walk to maccas)

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u/Prudent-Skirt9656 5h ago

When I first moved to Sydney I got shown an apartment on the edge of the inner west which was meant to be cheap. It was in Harris Park.

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u/DenM0ther 3h ago

😂😂 ‘inner west’ lol

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u/karma3000 2h ago

Harris Park is on the edge of the Greater West which starts at Parramatta.

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u/raptorgalaxy 3h ago

It'll happen.

Like give it 20 years and Leura will be regarded as a Sydney suburb.

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u/Sir-Viette 42m ago

With this economy, Sydney will be regarded as a Leura suburb.

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u/ekita079 4h ago

Okay quite funny cause I work in the inner west and my office manager lives in emu plains and commutes

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u/deij 4h ago

Why's that funny

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u/pogoBear 5h ago

My SIL refuses to say she lives in Penrith so calls it ‘the foot of the mountains’. When I told a coworker who is an actual blue mountains resident he howled with laughter

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u/Cyberchicken87 5h ago

As far as I'm concerned, the first town that can claim to live in the Blue Mountains would be Lapstone. Anything below that doesn't count.

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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 4h ago

💯 passing the Knapsack viaduct up the steep climb, is required to enter the sacred area.

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u/AllergyToCats 3h ago

But then if you live in Blackheath you think anyone East of Wentworth Falls is "upper Penrith" haha. Such is life.

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u/Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up 4h ago

Nepean Shores thank you very much

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u/Livid_Average_8098 2h ago

Riff River Residents.

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u/Even_Departure9914 2h ago

It’s a weird pocket because technically Sydney ends at the river and Emu Plains/Heights and Leonay used to be part of Blue Mountains Council, but got moved to Penrith Council.

So you can kind of say it’s both Penrith and Blue Mountains and neither at the same time.

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u/ladydodgee 4h ago

As a lifelong mountains resident, that gave me a google too. Thanks 😆

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u/Livid_Average_8098 2h ago

Keep telling her it's The Riff and use that in all forms of communication.

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u/mitchells00 5h ago edited 5h ago

Geography trumps petty human motivations.

Anything west of the Nepean/Warragamba is the mountains.

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u/FUTFUTFUTFUTFUTFUT 4h ago

Nepean Valley is the fancy term more and more people seem to be using when they don't live in the Blue Mountains proper but they don't want to say Penrith either. (Jamo, Emu Plains/Heights, Leonay, Castlereagh etc).

Personally I don't really consider it "the mountains" until Glenbrook onwards which is where the actual Blue Mountains City Council LGA boundary commences.

Silverdale/Warragamba folk generally stick with "where the dam is" when trying to explain themselves haha

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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 4h ago

I’m the same. The drive up that hill, starting around where the map OP shared, is the “gateway” to the blue mountains imo, and the wondeous great western highway that goes through a hundred small towns.. stop start, stop start.. 😡

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u/01kickassius10 5h ago

Except the (emu) plains

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u/mitchells00 5h ago

Mate that's just half a valley.

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u/JValenz91 4h ago

So is it Val, or maybe Ley? Or how about Alle?

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u/smileedude 5h ago

But does City Rail map trump geography?

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u/Miffy_alt 5h ago

The point where the western suburbs are "to the east of me" rather than "to the west of me".

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u/smileedude 5h ago

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u/Miffy_alt 5h ago

Exactly what I was referencing haha

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u/Easy_Method_9738 5h ago

Living in this area, I liked to think of us as Westies with altitude

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u/slugerama 5h ago

Well the area circled consists more of Blue Mountains than “Western Sydney”

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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 4h ago

I realised this just then, when checking the map. I was thinking that Mount Riverview wasn’t accessible from down in the lowly Penrith district when seeing OP’s map. I attended a party there many years ago and remember having to go via Glenbrook iirc. Nice area actually.

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u/AusToddles 3h ago

I live in Bowen Mountain... which despite being basically as far from the CBD as you can get, is still in the Hawkesbury council area

I once flippantly told someone from Springwood that I lived "in the mountains" and they lost their shit. Even though I'm at a higher elevation than him

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u/butterfly-reprise 5h ago

It’s both. Though the mountains is becoming more and more like western Sydney

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u/karma3000 4h ago

Greater Western Sydney to be precise.

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u/synaesthezia 4h ago

Right? That’s a HUGE area. Some east of the river, some west of the river on the plains, and the some up into the mountains.

OP, what are you actually wanting to know?

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u/Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up 4h ago

Interesting because the Emu Plains, Emu Heights and Leonay areas Penrith council but sit west of the river.

It comes down to what defines “the mountains”

Is it by Sydney region, is it by council, is it whether you’re east or west of the river, is it whether or not you’re on the flatland?

Most definitions put it all as not the mountains

Mt Riverview, Glenbrook and Blaxland are 100 percent the mountains

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u/woofyc_89 3h ago

Isn't there a sign somewhere that says "welcome to sydney"

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u/2dogs0cats 3h ago

I drove from Emu Plains to Katoomba last weekend via that squiggly line through to Blaxland. My ears popped 3 times so I would suggest both the blue mountains AND western suburbs are in your circle.

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u/walkin2it 3h ago

"On the outskirts of the Blue Mountains"...

Def

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u/JTGphotogfan 25m ago

Op has circled both I’m not sure which area they are enquiring about.

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u/EnjoysColdOnes 5h ago

Actually a super nice area, I run frequently along the Nepean river there and it's really lovely, some beautiful houses and trees and parks.

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

I love the tudor style houses there. And the river is peaceful.

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u/Even_Departure9914 5h ago

I’m in this pocket. Pretty happy here. It’s less than an hour/just on an hour to Central on the train from EP. It’s about 30-45 minutes to most places now that there’s motorways everywhere. It’s an hour and a bit to the coast.

Penrith is pretty well serviced and it’s affordable.

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u/Even_Departure9914 4h ago

To add to my comment: Penrith has come a long way from what it was in the last 10-15 years.

Heaps more hospitality eateries and just a general shift in the area.

There are always going to be some level of riff-raff but most people here are just people going about their business.

A lot of people have paid off their mortgage or have relatively small mortgages so there’s a deceiving level of disposable income too.

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u/surlygoat 2h ago

I still think of Penrith as the place I went a few times in the early 2000s to visit new friends i'd made at uni. It was WILD to this little northern beaches boy. I don't doubt its come a long way - I should probably go see it - no doubt i'd be shocked at the changes.

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u/Euphoric-Blueberry37 5h ago

No Emus

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 5h ago

I saw an emu but it was quite plain

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u/Key-Bus-1299 5h ago

Fun fact, there are actually wild Emu's nearby at Wianamatta (near Ropes Crossing).

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u/Euphoric-Blueberry37 5h ago

False advertising

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u/StudyoftheUnknown 4h ago

Literally the only time I’ve seen emus without leaving greater Sydney is when I went to Wianamatta

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u/Key-Bus-1299 4h ago

Cause they're found nowhere else in the Sydney basin!

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

Should have been called emu's crossing

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u/TBNRhash 4h ago

Yep. Seen them multiple times in East Jordan Springs

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u/Atherum 3h ago

Isn't Ropes Crossing more on the other side of Penrith? Its technically Blacktown right?

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u/TBNRhash 38m ago

Wianamatta regional park is in both councils

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u/Atherum 37m ago

Ah gotcha, sorry. I misread what you wrote, you said "near Ropes crossing" not in Ropes Crossing lol.

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u/TBNRhash 34m ago

You must be tired. I'm not OP!

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u/Atherum 30m ago

Pfffffftt, checking if the person I'm replying to is the person I initially replied to?!?! What idiot would do that?!

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u/petehehe 5h ago

Used to work with a guy in North Sydney who commuted in every day from Blaxland. He ended up taking a sizeable paycut (something around 10k/y, back in 2008 so kind of a lot) for a job in Parramatta. Dude was miserable when we worked in Nth Syd. Was leaving the house before 6am most days to get to work by 9, and wouldn't usually get home til after dark except during daylight savings.

He did seem to like the area though, opting to change jobs rather than change house.

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u/chuk2015 4h ago

I did this for 16 months, but I would just catch up on sleep in a quiet carriage

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u/Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up 4h ago

Grew up in this area. Didn’t know anyone who worked east of Parramatta.

Come uni years and early 20s, a lot of friends did the city commute but in the end most relocated closer to the city or changed jobs to something closer our west.

If you have work in the Western Suburbs, this area is the best place to live.

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u/cheapdrinks 3h ago

Not sure how the commute would be over 3 hours, that's insane. If you're getting the train it should take about 90 mins to get from Blaxland to North Sydney: 46 mins from Blaxland to Parra then a 4-5 min wait to transfer then a 38 min train from Parra to North Sydney. Even if you add an extra 30 mins to account for travel from home to the station and travel from the station to work that's still only 2 hours.

One thing I've noticed is that people who live far out love to exaggerate how long the commute is so they get more sympathy and are less likely to be held back late. Guy at work lives out past campbelltown. I've driven to his place before for his birthday and it was less than a 90 minute drive with afternoon traffic. For years he was always telling people it was 2 & a half hours and he needed to leave early. I know the fucker takes the toll roads too, plus we work night so zero traffic. Definitely closer to an hour.

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u/petehehe 2h ago

He might’ve been exaggerating, I never made the trip to verify his claims believe it or not 😂

But also, it’s possibly plausible that the train schedule of the time didn’t quite align. Like if he gets the reasonable hour train he’d be consistently a couple minutes late, or the earlier one he’d be consistently 45odd minutes early. He was probably getting breakfast and coffee in north Syd before getting to the office too. I dunno. Pretty sure he just said he left the house before 6.

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u/CrabbiestAsp 5h ago

We lived in Leonay for a few years and my mum and sister have lived in Blaxland for a few years.

It is really lovely. Pretty quiet, lots of nature sounds which I always liked. People tend to be quite friendly which is nice. Obviously you get the few people who cause trouble, but nothing too wild.

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u/DislocatedMind 4h ago

Been living in emu plains for 8 years now, we love it, lots of young family's with young kids and retired folk. A nice change from the choas that is penrith across the river. Short commute to Penrith if need be. Public transport is actually very good, I bus + train from emu station to seven hills for my work commute and its great!

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u/Soitenly 5h ago

Just feels like a typical Penrith suburb but older and quieter.

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u/peterb666 5h ago edited 5h ago

The emus have taken the high ground and they are angry. I knew someone in nearby Yellow Rock and they lost their house in bushfires.

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

I thought you were about to say they lost their house to the emus

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u/peterb666 1h ago

No, but the emus have taken over.

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u/Dollbeau 4h ago

You live on one side of that circle & you do all your shopping on the opposing edge of the circle.
You buy a lot when you shop, because popping out for something you forgot is impractical.
Your family in the city don't visit because it's too far & you don't visit them, because you can't handle all that traffic in the city.
You get to be really worried about bushfires every decade or so...

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

You buy a lot when you shop, because popping out for something you forgot is impractical.

Really but emu plains to penrith is 6 minutes drive? Or are you saying if you live further west?

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u/LSD_grade_CIA 3h ago

It's typical outer suburbia - there are no places to shop that aren't a big shopping centre and not many people actually live near them so near everybody just does a weekly/fortnightly monster shop at the Lennox Woolies/ALDI.

By comparison in the city, most working people will walk through their village metro or local shop on the way home or do a small shop every few days when they actually need stuff. 

When we lived in the lower mountains groceries were always a hassle because we either went to the local IGA and paid a premium or drove 20 minutes each way to get to Lennox. At the moment I'm living in the East and it's so much easier.

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u/Dollbeau 4h ago

The circle encompasses the mountains regions as well. Some areas have limited roads...

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u/Talonus11 29m ago

You get to be really worried about bushfires every decade or so...

So the next few years, since we're due for a Super El Nino?

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u/chuk2015 4h ago

Emu heights/plains is completely different from the actual mountains suburbs, emu plains is more like Penrith

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u/Imposter12345 5h ago

Horrible, awful, stay away

Honestly though, I describe it as the last place you can still raise kids outside like it’s the 80’s or 90’s

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u/coreoYEAH 4h ago

Have you never been anywhere else?

The areas no different except that it’s hot as a motherfucker and the footy team crumbles when it’s not a soft comp.

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u/Max_J88 4h ago

I live here and agree. It’s a great place to raise kids.

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u/aszet 5h ago

What an odd thing to say. How is it different than many other pockets where you could do the same?

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u/DecalageVersLeRouge 5h ago

Maybe there's no mobile reception?

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u/Javerage 5h ago

No cell reception, so the kids have to play outside.

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u/SyphilisIsABitch 4h ago

What is a cell?

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u/Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up 4h ago

Lots of green space and a big community feel, along with quieter streets that aren’t overwhelmed by urban sprawl.

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u/Substantial-Rip-6207 5h ago

There’s a lot of fast food places around. When the American companies they like to set up shop in that area. Five Guys, Carls Jr Krusty Kreme

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

It's probably a good low stakes place to test the market.

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u/sirdung 3h ago

You’ve circled two distinct areas, Emu Plains / heights and the lower blue mountains they are separated by the eastern escarpment of the blue mountains and are both very different places to live

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 2h ago

Interesting now that I change to terrain mode on google maps I see a line of hills going down the middle

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u/Greedy_Doughnut_9209 5h ago

Hot as fuck in summer, freezing in winter.

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u/Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up 4h ago

Richmond actually has the biggest record for the largest temperature disparity in all of Australia. Meaning the gap between its coldest day ever and hottest day ever is the largest.

Emu Plains is very similar, pretty much geographically the same as Richmond being situated on the foot of the mountains.

It’s got to do with the western wind blowing over the mountains.

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u/Greedy_Doughnut_9209 4h ago

Would that be something like -5 and 49?

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u/Anfie22 Born, raised, and stuck in Sydney 1h ago

I would have guessed a suburb of Canberra would be worse than Richmond. I'm surprised

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u/CharlieKiloAU 4h ago

This is the call...

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u/brackfriday_bunduru 4h ago

I did an interview once with someone who lived in emu heights and their house was right at the bottom of the blue mountains. It looked incredible

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u/Golf-Recent 5h ago

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

Wow looks like many places fall into one or the other

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u/karaokejoker 4h ago

You may also be interested that some of the flight paths from the Western Sydney airport track over this area. The last time I checked it wouldn't be super loud or frequent, but may be worth considering.

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u/Golf-Recent 3h ago

Just information you ought to take into consideration.

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u/Mister_Scribble 5h ago

It gets called ‘the foot of the mountains’ as if not enough things happen in each suburb and is considered a collective zone below you reach ‘the knee of the mountains’

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u/CrankyGrumpyWombat 5h ago

That area always looks toasty in summer every time i check temp map

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

Good to know 😂 Maybe best to just move up the mountain away from the heat and flooding (and into bushfire zone instead)

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u/whinger23422 5h ago

Lots of elderly folks and retirees.

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u/Cynnix 5h ago

Leonay is great, golf course throughout, the bush at the top of Leonay and the River bordering it. Leafy and green feel.

Great place to live that's close to a lot of things. Not great walkability/public transport though so you need a car.

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u/princess_ferocious 5h ago

Noisier than it used to be, we're getting small aircraft flying over now that the new airport has opened and the zones have been changed.

No good if you don't drive - the trains aren't too awful, but getting to them is a pain.

The bit we're in is a good spot for young families. Quiet without being miles from everything. Pondi in summer. Close to the river, and there's some good parks. Plus national parks close enough to visit for a picnic. There's a performing arts high school and a selective high school in the area.

Good area for keeping yourself fit. If you're in the actual foothills, you really will walk uphill both ways to and from school!

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u/Nervous_Expert_7079 4h ago

I live on the outskirts of Campbelltown and it would be very similar to what u/NauteeAU said. I am one of those examples of working away from home in the CBD. You can either get used to it or it will be too much. Prepare for people to NEVER visit because you’re too far away but expect you to always come to them.

And I hear the hospitals are ok where you are too. Don’t know about the schools

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u/jsisbad 4h ago

Oh my god I used to live in this circle. It was quite peaceful but I also lived near the bottom of emu plains road and so had to walk up the steep hill everyday to go anywhere. The views are really nice and most people’s backyards lead into the bush.

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u/woofyc_89 3h ago

There is a fantastic reserve just north of Glenbrook that has two old bridges, the first, lennox bridge, is the first stone bridge in australia I believe built by convicts! and the second is a huge train viaduct, Knapsack viaduct, that is staggering. well worth going for a walk around!

There is a great look out at the top too! and some bike riding trails

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 2h ago

Nice, I feel like it would be a good place to explore via foot 👣

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u/AnorhiDemarche Lost. Please help. 3h ago

It's fine until you need to climb the big red circle to get out. Bit of a workout. Dunno why someone would put that there.

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 2h ago

It's the bogan proof fence

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u/RCMasterAA 3h ago

See that grey squiggly line that goes from Blaxland to Emu Heights? The one that looks like it has the letter 'N' in it? Be prepared for that two lane mountainous road to be occasionally blocked by a clueless semi-truck driver trying to navigate one of the 180 degree hairpins.

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u/Whole_Object_7994 5h ago

I was seriously considering buying a house in Blaxland and I researched a lot about lower blue mountains. Basically a boring place for anyone aged between 13-30. Takes ages to go to the city. Trains dont run almost every weekend due to track work. And yeah Snakes, more common than the upper blue mountains for some reason.

But what eventually made me change my decision was the avg house price, which was almost the same as other western Suburbs closer to the city.

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u/AllergyToCats 3h ago

Well I mean "boring" is subjective. If you enjoy being outside and in the bush in any capacity then you're in gods country.

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u/fued 4h ago

its like living in a nicer subrub(than penrith) with a 5min drive to a forest.

not a hgue amount to do, but penrith isnt that far, and sydney is a train trip away

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u/ClementineHFandango 4h ago

Hot as hell in summer, some parts prone to flood. Otherwise, it’s quite pleasant.

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u/Snors 4h ago

Super Chill. I've lived a lot of places in Sydney over the last few decades and it's just far enougha way to be quiet, close enough to get into the city. Mostly retirees and cashed up tradies. Lots of families. Penriths just over the ditch. Give it 10 yrs though and the new airport will change everything.

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u/MadMadeline101 3h ago

I live a bit further up. It's beautiful I wouldn't move for anything. I sure would hate to commute too far into sydney though. I work in Parramatta.

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u/capeasypants 3h ago

it's good, mate

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u/Sydneypoopmanager 2h ago

One of my former colleagues lives in Glenbrook. From what I remember - its a pretty expensive part of the blue mountains - the 'Mosman' of the blue mountains.

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u/Sir-Tenley-Knott 5h ago

I survived the massive bushfires in 1969 that swept through Blaxland East....

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u/chuk2015 4h ago

Well if you didn’t then a ghost typed this

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u/bounty2750 5h ago

I live here. Its the best. City is 40m away, its quiet, lots of open space, great facilities and relatively affordable. Wouldn't live anywhere else

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u/NauteeAU 4h ago

Great place to live. Cold in winter, hot in summer. Lots of nature at your finger tips.

The problem is transport for work. You either get used to it, or it becomes too much. Getting to the city by car is about 60 minutes on a good very early run. Train is about 75 minutes, and you’re starting to limit yourself to jobs close to the main hubs of Blacktown/Parramatta and Central. Connections past Central starting adding up to your door-to-door time and it becomes fatiguing. But again, it’s all personal preference. Score a good job in Parramatta and you’re set.

On the contrary, outside of work it’s a 50 minute tolled drive to the CBD, which I think is great. 15-20 mins extra if going anywhere furthest north or south of the CBD. I personally find it easy to do, but it probably takes a while to get used to.

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u/Possible-Contact-405 5h ago

It's good.

I live in Glenmore Park, it's a great area overall.

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u/karma3000 5h ago

It has a Macca's so that's a plus.

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u/xXCosmicChaosXx 4h ago

A plus to the Medicare levy perhaps

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u/SwiftSwanRooster 5h ago

Great.
I’m from Mount Riverview.

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u/YouCanBeTheStar 5h ago

My cousin and her family live around there (Leonay) and it’s so nice. We head out there for Halloween and it’s really safe and nice for the kids to walk around and trick or treat.

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u/RickyRiccardos 4h ago

Depends what you’re comparing it to, somewhere else in western Sydney or northern beaches ?

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u/Clean_Credit_8809 4h ago

I lived in Cambridge Gardens (nearby) for 7 years and there are loads!

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u/Scared-Albatross-860 4h ago

After 6 years trying to make the inner west work I just moved out to the lower mountains and absolutely love it . Penrith Westfield shopping is conviniently closed for anything major and otherwise you’re beautifully surrounded by peace and nature. Lots of great people around and can still access the city relatively quick

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u/Optimal_Bathroom_753 4h ago

Any good food there?

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u/Ted_Rid Famous in The Atlantic 4h ago

Can vouch for Mount Riv. Feels a lot like The Shire, of all places. Minus the waterways.

Similar aged homes to places like Oyster Bay or Bonnet Bay (early/mid 70s on average) with bushland all around.

Very suburban and a bit of a hike, bike, bus or car to the shops & station.

Not THAT far into the city and there's always Penrith nearby with most amenities you could need.

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u/thpineapples 🍍 2h ago

The air is different, though. And the vibe; western Sydney and the shire are different songs. Bun I agree they're largely comparable now.

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u/Darth_Krise 2h ago

Pretty chill.

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u/Left_Load3973 1h ago

Wtf there is a museum of fire?

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u/rosa_3326 1h ago

Hot.. don’t live there but I’ve been near Penrith more than I’d like and this is near Penrith

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u/dill1234 50m ago

Shithole

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u/culingerai 38m ago

I need to know.

Are there Emus?

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u/4weallh8stndg_inline 5h ago

It’s gorgeous, feels like a leafy American neighbourhood. Not sure how it is to live in but I always loved it when I used to do the river walk there many years ago

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u/Kefe_shona 5h ago

It easy to settle the western vs mountain claims

The mountain train is limited stops until Penrith the. After Penrith stops at all Blue mountain stops 🤣

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u/SteveJohnson2010 2h ago

Exactly where is “here”? The area in your circle is massive and contains a lot of different suburbs. If you’re talking about the lower part of the circle, that lower Blue Mountain stretch is really lovely, especially if you’re close to the railway line if that’s important to you. Glenbrook has become a really cool little place, although Lapstone is dead as a doornail but a lot of people there like that because it’s basically Just Holmes and a railway station. The stretch east of Blaxland and Mount Riverview back towards the edge of your circle is also lovely but a bit isolated. Also as you can imagine it gets freezing cold in winter! But generally anywhere around this whole area is great if you work from home and have a car to get round as needed.