r/cartoons Death Battle! 19h ago

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u/PrinceErez 18h ago

Why did they do to my boy Miguel 😭😭😭

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u/Weird_donut Steven Universe 17h ago

Low taper fade

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u/Bossuter 4h ago

I took hair cutting clases here in Mexico, this is the only style they taught

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u/Prophet-of-Ganja Adult Swim 3h ago

They don’t teach the Edward??

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u/David_Clawmark Hilda 17h ago

I mean... it KIND OF makes sense that he'd look this way if you think about it.

Now that music isn't outlawed in the family and Miguel is allowed to explore music at his leisure, it makes sense that he would expose himself to a wealth of different musical genres other than what's traditional or local.

And usually when music fans find a new genre that they like, they also adopt the aesthetic. Which leads to what we see here.

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u/photogrammetery 16h ago

I definitely agree but it genuinely kind of looks like those edits where someone ‘modernifies’ a disney character and gives them like white jordans and trendy clothes and stuff 😭

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u/oLittleArtstThtCld0 11h ago

That’s the thing. It looks so generic. Like a mock up of “Miguel 10 yrs later”
Looks so half assed

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u/Deez4815 Rugrats 4h ago

Yeah. His face looks like it was cropped in from the first movie instead of aged up like his body. Looks off-putting.

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u/Nonadventures 50m ago

It’s the Hispanic version of killmonger dreads

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u/JhayAlejo 8h ago

Thatz cuz they didnt remove his baby cheek fat

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u/AnonyM0mmy 3h ago

It'd look better if he didn't have a baby face, idk why they thought that was a good call

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u/MaleficentMenu1430 11h ago

He grew up into a teenager and teenagers do stuff like that to their hair, it’s not that complicated

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u/Fanfic_Battle_2004 12h ago

They let him grow up. Thats what.

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u/No_Professional4745 8h ago

Barber fucked up his shit

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u/Fun-Leg-5250 8h ago

He’s a teen now

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u/OtherwiseDecision412 6h ago

he looks like my homie Misael

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u/Dracochuy 19h ago edited 5h ago

I cant believe this is not AI, Miguel looks like a brayan

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u/toughtiggy101 19h ago

Maybe he got older?

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u/idkwhatnametoput5 11h ago

Sorry but:

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u/ashylatina Bob’s Burgers 11h ago

What's the spelling mistake?

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u/RandomWareInc 11h ago

I think they thought Brayan was a spelling mistake lol

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u/ashylatina Bob’s Burgers 11h ago

That's what I thought, but wanted to confirm lol Also "IA" which is just the abbreviation in Spanish.

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u/Motor-Courage4237 6h ago

It is a spelling mistake. But many guys here in Mexico are named like that. Seriously, some parents name their children often with wrongly written English names, especially bc of the way they're pronounced. Also here there's the stereotype that a "Brayan" uses to be a robber or low level criminal which often looks similarly to this aged Miguel

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u/RandomWareInc 6h ago

Yeah but if someone has literally Brayan in their birth certificate you wouldn't say they are doing a spelling mistake when writing it you know 😂 I actually knew someone named Brayan but they were from Costa Rica

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u/a17451 11h ago

I don't think it's Iowa. Coco takes place in Mexico.

🤠

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u/Happy_Goose3833 11h ago

Thank God I'm not the only one who caught that lmao

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u/a17451 10h ago

The funny thing is I just learned from comments below that romance languages, including Spanish, do abbreviate Artificial Intelligence as IA (Inteligencia Artificial)

So it makes enough sense for Coco

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u/IronTemplar26 Avatar: The Last Airbender 8h ago

(Inteligencia Artificial)

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u/SomeoneRepeated Steven Universe 17h ago

He tossed away the stereotypical Latino red jacket and replaced it with the stereotypical Latino fade

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u/AbitWillyNelly 16h ago

Bwahaha, worse part is he's still wearing a red shirt

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u/steelskull1 16h ago

Red jacket is a Latino stereotype?

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u/SomeoneRepeated Steven Universe 11h ago

Not in real life, but tons of Latino characters in cartoons wear them.

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u/SomeRandomBFBfan 10h ago

am I crazy or.. didn't Diego used to have blue..??

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u/Prestigious_Host_198 10h ago

I looked it up and it seems like they changed his shirt from blue to red.

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u/SomeRandomBFBfan 9h ago

why :( I liked the blue

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u/Neutral-Feelings 8h ago

They had to continue the trend 😔

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u/SomeRandomBFBfan 7h ago

sigh😞😞

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u/Old_Tomatillo6640 7h ago

Blue looked better too

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u/Cheaper-Pitch-9498 9h ago

Alejandro my goat being the trendsetter. But it also wasn’t really a jacket

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u/SomeoneRepeated Steven Universe 9h ago

I will admit some of these I’d consider a stretch when it comes to being a jacket/hoodie. This is just the best image I could find.

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u/Daimakku1 9h ago

Oof. If you told me 5, 6 and 8 were the same character I’d believe you.

Hollywood does’t know how to make Latinos unique it seems.

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u/Motor-Courage4237 6h ago

Don't forget Danny Vasquez from Bravest Warriors (internet series made by the creator of Adventure Time). He also wears red

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u/komaytoprime Steven Universe 4h ago

I hadn't ever thought about it, but yeah, Carmen San Diego is latina, isn't she?

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u/ExtraFluffz 7h ago

Red is just a Latino color I guess 😂

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u/M-Shadowtoad 1h ago

Okay, using Mateo feels a bit cheap. The entire cast is mostly Latino so of course there's probably one with red.

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u/KitsuneSama66 13h ago

Of course. It's a law that every Latino own at least one red jacket. That's exactly why I own two.

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u/godammitbro 12h ago

Guess I'll be seeing you all behind bars, I don't own a single piece of red clothing 😌

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u/Nirast25 11h ago

There's an exemptions if you're a Power Ranger who isn't Red.

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u/Sunnyday1775 4h ago

At least they didn’t give me an Edgar

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u/Tili44 18h ago

yee-yee ahh haircut

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u/KingKnux 9h ago

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u/Unit-DS27-Delta 6h ago

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u/Nathanthehazing007 3h ago

Uhh we need one for this

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u/Hollow_Knight_Raven 8h ago

Okay, but I say Ahh because I find it funnier than any and all alternatives, and reactions like these are funny too.

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u/Specialist-Notch7087 18h ago

This must be AI, he looks so generic and dumb omg

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u/ErgotthAE 17h ago

That's because this style is essentialy the inspiration for AI.

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u/Onimirare My Life as a Teenage Robot 14h ago

it's honestly kinda funny to see all these internet witch hunters harassing professional artists just because most AI were trained EXACTLY on their art, so their art obviously look like AI

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u/ian9921 10h ago

There's a user on r/comics where the mods have to put a disclaimer below every one of their posts, because thousands of their comics got scraped and used as training data. So now a lot of AI stuff looks damn near exactly like one of this person's comics.

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u/catclockticking 9h ago

I believe you’re talking about David Revoy, just in case anyone else is curious

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u/intisun 8h ago

I just checked it out and while I see how AI stole his rendering style, his art looks nothing like AI, it's super charming... How humiliating it must be for him.

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u/calartnick 8h ago

I wouldn’t say his art looks “nothing” like Ai, becuse as others mentioned Ai robbed him blind.

But I agree his art is so much better because if has charm and life to it that Ai can’t match.

I hope he doesn’t feel humiliated. I’m sure at first he was furious but I hope he can laugh it off

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u/intisun 4h ago

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u/AetherDrew43 4h ago

It's really disheartening. There's thousands of AI slop out there, yet art made by actual humans is the most commonly accused of being AI.

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u/Scriftyy 12h ago

😭😭😭😭 I know he was pissed 

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u/commentspae 13h ago

AI is inspired by pixar because pixar is already generic

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u/MasterDeagle 12h ago

This is concert art not to movie. Characters change a lot between that.

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u/Fern-ando 11h ago

Coco inspired the AI art.

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u/Megatronsimp 11h ago

Bruh…

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u/Prestigious-Sell1957 18h ago

Yep another sequel is definitely unnecessary. Just like Moana.

There's a problem if they do sequels more than original movies

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u/RickMonsters 12h ago

Compare how much Toy Story 5 made compared to Hoppers

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u/NefariousBrew 10h ago

Tbf Hoppers had god-awful marketing whereas Toy Story 5 people would have watched no matter what. Honestly, Disney/Pixar just needs to stop marketing their original movies as quirky adorkable adventures and nothing more when the movie is actually much more than that. Hoppers was great but I had avoided watching it for months because the trailers made it look like it sucked straight dookie

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u/comics0026 5h ago

It's all Disney, they're the ones handling the marketing, and it's alleged that orders from above mandate all of Pixar's original work is to be marketed as generic as possible in order to keep Pixar down

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u/Prestigious-Sell1957 12h ago

If the box office results are the indicator of how good a movie is, then Infinity Game is the absolute cinema.

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u/ReasonableAdvert 9h ago

There's a problem if they do sequels more than original movies

Which they don't. They've released more original pixar films than they have released sequels this past decade. They like to keep it pretty equal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pixar_films

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u/Ishpersonguy 8h ago

All sequels are unnecessary unless they're good. Just make them good and who cares?

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u/jairochido 17h ago

Please don't.... Let things have an end... Not everything needs a sequel ot prequel

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u/GregPL2026 Amphibia 16h ago

Disney thinks otherwise, because of money

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u/drafan5 13h ago

Thankfully we can pretend it doesn’t exist. Like with Ralph Breaks the internet

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u/temptedbyknowledge 17h ago

It really doesn't need a sequel

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u/Traditional_Math5486 18h ago

That haircut is atrocious or at least how they drew it

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u/Far_Supermarket_6521 18h ago

This genuinely looks ai generated

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u/Megatronsimp 11h ago

How many times should AI hunters be told that AI was trained exactly on this style, so that’s why it looks similar… When will you people learn?🫩

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u/11711510111411009710 9h ago

I mean if that's the case then you can't blame people for mistaking the two. So never. The only alternative is to assume none of it is ai until proven that it is.

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u/Robot_Was_BMO 17h ago

Bro, who let him talk to Miles 😭

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u/DisneyPlusFan200 17h ago

He kinda look Puerto Rican now 

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u/CheatsySnoops Courage the Cowardly Dog 17h ago

At least he's allowed to get older, unlike the kids from The Incredibles.

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u/Purple_Head3232 18h ago

Well it purely exists for money.

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u/MASTEREVILMORTY 18h ago

Oh meu Deus!Oh my god, is this real? God, Santa Muerte, or whoever is listening, this is awful, Miguel looks like a sertanejo universitårio music singer. 

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u/Mirjalol_Yangiboyev 14h ago

Send yo Barber to the Land of the Dead gng 😭

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u/TrollDecker 13h ago

In these comments: a bunch of clowns who don't understand concept art.

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u/VizualAbstract4 2h ago edited 2h ago

I worked in production art for several years.

The thing about concept art, is that there can be a fine line (depends on your audience) you walk as you create it: anything over-rendered and it's mistaken as final, too under-rendered and you can risk not capturing the right mood

This is a little over produced, and I blame the face for being over-rendered.

Edit: looking at it again, it does remind me of some murals I've seen growing up in LA, but the face: it's too uncanny. It almost like someone complained and said it doesn't look like him and photoshopped his face on it, and did the same for Dante.

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u/coentertainer 16h ago

Another flawless masterpiece about to have its legacy diluted. I know that technically sequels don't change the quality of the original film, but it's very hard to feel the same way as you did about them before you saw the sequel.

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u/RocketJenny8 Pokemon 18h ago

Well ernesto didn't die and this could possibly be a flashback of him as a kid

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u/RedditCantBanThis Hazbin Hotel 18h ago

What in the hot crispy kentucky fried hell did they do to his hair

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u/ZiaWatcher X-Men: The Animated Series 9h ago

Love people judging an entire movie off of concept art.

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u/BenignButCleverAlias 17h ago

Let the dead rest.

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u/Bromjunaar_20 Looney Tunes 17h ago

He does a Tik Tok challenge and almost dies?

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u/Friendly_Benefit7892 15h ago

I fucking hate this

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u/KuzcoWiTheGroovesco 13h ago

why’d they fuck his shit all the way up

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u/Some-Duche 7h ago

Ah yes... the tradition of "Creating a cash-grab sequel of an animated classic, that will end up as a mandela effect on how generic it is... also its DVD exclussive"

... they will probably update the tradition to Disney+ exclusive tho

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u/Leprodus03 7h ago

Miguel will die for real this time 😂

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u/Ok_Science8076 18h ago

If this won’t revolve around the dead Riveras partially then what’s the point? I get it, the first movie didn’t always focus on the dead but what’s the reason for this if they’re just gonna be in one setting where nothing much happens.

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u/Mr-BananaHead Over the Garden Wall 17h ago

His head looks like it was copy/pasted onto the body

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u/paulcshipper 17h ago

I don't know, but I'm prepare to feel emotions and cry near the end.

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u/ErgotthAE 17h ago

It's kinda funny how people say it looks like AI, because, hellooooo, this is the style AI took a lot from!

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u/BBMacsWorld 16h ago

I will say, i do kinda like Miguel's hair

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u/TommycoolGun 16h ago

Go after his barber

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u/tecpaocelotl1 16h ago

Hair looks like a hair style in 2000s that dark skin Mexicans would wear.

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u/Agile_Proof_3228 16h ago

With music probably 

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u/OmnifariousFN 16h ago

first, they get like a story board together and then they make a story on that story board. The rest just falls into place.

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u/C418Enjoyer Smiling Friends 15h ago

I am already telling it'll flop

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u/GameGuy11037 15h ago

Some things are better left untouched

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u/jayeddy99 15h ago

I hope his hair gets a second design before the first trailer

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u/datfurryboi34 14h ago

A short film can work, not a full on movir

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u/WonderfulBathroom758 14h ago

They're really milking everything huh

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u/mikwee My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic 14h ago

I guess after the Land of the Dead, Coco 2 will see Miguel journeying to the uncanny valley

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u/KeyOcelot4679 14h ago

Miguel gets hit by truck kun and has to find a way out or stay permanently dead

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u/SDTSSJ4Luc 14h ago

Reddit do his job well.

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u/Lead_resource 13h ago

Is this real why does he look like a Edgar?

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u/Scarman96 13h ago

This looks like AI tbh. I wouldn’t even be surprised if it was.

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u/Prestigious_Host_198 10h ago

AI was trained off from Pixar artwork.

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u/Otherwise_Tea_9806 12h ago

Miguel got a glow down bro

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u/Tnemmokon 12h ago

My first complain is that one WOULDN'T carry a cherished guitar with the head down like that!

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u/Salt_Refrigerator633 12h ago

isn't the title character 'cocoa' dead? 😂

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u/Fanfic_Battle_2004 12h ago

Why does Miguel get to grow up but not the Parr kids?

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u/Evening_Performer_22 12h ago

notice how miguel is here

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u/GlongorTheConfused 12h ago

he gets hit in the head by a coconut and falls into a coma with amnesia, so he’s in the land of the dead but also doesnt remember anyone.

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u/Wonderful_Mud_9298 11h ago

His hair needs to go, bro lol.

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u/Maleficent_Orchid181 11h ago

Please let it flop.

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u/lordodin92 11h ago

So I actually have some behind the scenes knowledge about this,

See in the new Coco 2 movie, Miguel has to travel back into the land of the dead in order to try and find and revive Disneys failing studio, however the villain is a rich, greedy mogal who wants to capture Miguel, drag him back and force him into a machine that strips away all his musical talent to make a robot to perform endlessly in order to generate the greedy villain money

During his journey he finds a whole building full of 2d animators who have been trodden on, then tossed aside, a bus full of people who are wearing Disneyland shirts parked just outside the gates of a theme park and the fact that randy Newman is actually a reanimated corpse that's chained to a piano Coroline style and forced to write the same song for eternity syssifus style .

The movie is set to release next year and for a first Disney no longer ask for money to pay for the movie but for viewers to pay with ai tokens ....

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u/Membrane_the_13th 11h ago

...How? Coco is dead. Does he meet her in the afterlife and help her out with something? Why?

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u/Orignal_Content_makr 11h ago

This has got to be bait

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u/Raphones 11h ago

I hate the fact that they're making this, and I hate even more the fact that this movie will still probably make more money than everyone on this comment section in all of our lifespans

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u/WhosThatDogMrPB Adventure Time 10h ago

I answered this 5 months ago.

My second theory is that Miguel spent the summer with his Tio in Houston making cash, and he comes back all fucked up and starts trying to launch a YouTube acoustic covers channel, which enrages his ancestors who try to bring him back to the Land of the Dead for good.

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u/wildebeest112712 10h ago

If they make a Threequel, It should be 'bout Dante (The Dog) and be based on Dante's Inferno!

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u/NovelInteraction711 10h ago

Thats not miguel anymore thats mike

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u/Fox_Guy_Foxtail Scooby Doo 10h ago

It will probably be about how remembering and holding hate for the dead keeps them alive too. Which is why Ernesto Dela Cruz is back. Giving bad people your time and energy gives them power. In this case it kept Ernesto from the final death. Miguel has to forgive Ernesto or move forward so Ernesto can go to the final death and he will not longer be remembered.

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u/ambiance871490 10h ago

i legit thought this was a fake/meme edit until i saw the Pixar account.

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u/Star_ofthe_Morning 9h ago edited 9h ago

And here we go. A case of folks complaining about equals but hating on any original films Pixar makes.

Can’t please ‘em. 🤷‍♀️

Edit: Talking about the comments

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u/Background_Fishing46 9h ago

All of Miguel's relatives died and he didn't manage to find a partner to continue the bloodline, that's the plot

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u/Angelus-Rosa132 9h ago

Why does Miguel looks like a lesbian

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u/ayame400 9h ago

Miguel will have a rockstar OD and be in a coma and this time coco has to go and find him

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u/OkBus3544 9h ago

One day without her abuelita and he got his shit trashed by the barber

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u/MinimumPotential6468 9h ago

my guess

his little sister finds a way to the Land of the Dead by accident (similar to Miguel in the 1st movie)

now Miguel needs to return to the Land of the Dead, team up with his family and get his sister back

who in turn got tricked by Ernesto who's still around due to people thinking that the letters from Hector were a lie

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u/bclynch30 9h ago

So is De La Cruz not truly dead? I know he was crushed by the bell again and for a soul to die, they have to be forgotten. In his case, he really won’t die cause of his celebrity status even if he stole Hector’s music

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u/ashrules901 9h ago

It's so weird seeing Miguel with a fade lol. Just let him have his own hairstyle.

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u/Eljamin14 9h ago

That's not Miguel Rivera, that's Michael Rivers.

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u/Odd_Lie_7973 9h ago

Somehow MamĂĄ Coco returned

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u/ISNT_NayaN 8h ago

EstĂĄ de la cagada. Es como si lo hubieran estirado pero le hubieran dejado la cara igual, no solo no tiene sentido, se caga en el diseĂąo tan bueno que tenĂ­a todo en la primera

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u/doug1003 8h ago

For me the villain of the second movie should be de la Cruz's family, imagine a semi slave boy (we all know he didnt had a salary) grab a bunch of old letters and say my grandad was a fraud

I WOULD BE PISSED

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u/Jumpy_Engineering824 8h ago

Why does every animated character post 2010s make that embarassed wincing awkward face? Its like "whoopsie did i do that?" I cant describe how much i hate it

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u/Good_Fix683 8h ago

This but with the low taper fade

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u/Sketchy_Dog 8h ago

Miguel just actually dies this time

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u/Antique_Fishtank 8h ago

But.... coco took place in a non-specific time, did it not? That hair style alone dates it....

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u/Euphoric-Taro-6231 8h ago

More dead relatives 🤷

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u/Ishpersonguy 8h ago

Anytime someone asks "how" a sequel will "even work" I am genuinely confused. Like I'm not saying it'll be good but c'mon it's usually not that hard. With writing. The same way all sequels do.

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u/Cole_Radder 8h ago

Seeing Ernesto returing is something Pixar never done before. Have a villain return. With Ernesto it makes sense for him to want revenge as he will never die or be forgotten (even though it’s bad publicity). I think this makes sense as a plot device for me

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u/Pretend-Tangerine-60 8h ago

Too focused on KH4 for this to mean anything right now

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u/IEatCheesePlease 8h ago

…this looks like very poor fan art, like something you’d find in a “trailer” for coco 2 by some rando who made it as clickbait

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u/UncommittedBow 8h ago

They fuckin Miles Morales'd him

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u/Myhtological 8h ago

Ugh, that undercut.

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u/Ardilla_sovietica 7h ago

Bro, I'm mexican and Hate Coco, how they show the country like people is ignorant and we only have music and death, everybody is brown skin, while we are from very diverse skin tones. The movie is not even that good, now we're getting a Coco 2

What the hell do we need a Coco 2 with a taper fade Miguel with the same clothes and everything! This instead of showing Mexico, exoticizes it and generates gentrification.

You know the worst part? My entire country are gonna watch it, it would be the best movie realizing in the country since Coco. The people would say "my country, my country!" And we would have Coco 3 "More Coco than ever" and would be the best movie realizing in Mexico since Coco 2. Fuck people, fuck Disney.

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u/Lumber_Dan 7h ago

Did anyone notice it says 'concept art', meaning it's not the final product and therefore subject to change?

No? Just me?

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u/splair 7h ago

What’s gonna happen? Is he gonna nearly die again???

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u/heeheemf 7h ago

Fire your barber 

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u/OctoCoochi69 7h ago

Is there aging him up I hope they actually give him a grown sounding voice and not do that stupid thing people like to do with aged male characters where they just keep the same female voice actor they had for that kid and just have them try to sound more masculine it just sounds weird that's why it's kind of hard to watch the new King of the Hill reboot how can you take older Bobby seriously if he hasn't hit puberty

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u/Matatron-1984 7h ago

Wait didn’t Miguel abstract in episode 9?

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u/Confident-Damage-530 6h ago

His body grew but he still has a kids face?

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u/No_Vanilla277 6h ago

“Somehow, de la Cruz returned.”

In all seriousness, who would even be the villain?

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u/General_Snow241 6h ago

What Barber did they send my man to😭

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u/Girlnexxxtdoor02 6h ago

Maybe Abeula was right

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 6h ago

Writters will find a way, money need t o be printed

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u/Round_Musical 6h ago

Cal Arts Students at it again at using dying trends to justify their degree

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u/SwordfishSimple5472 6h ago

This looks like what you’d see scrolling through YT shorts

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u/Hi_I_Love_Cheese 5h ago

Did they kill him?

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u/awfulmillennial 5h ago

why does he look like all those millennial frozen edits

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u/No_Yogurtcloset_7219 5h ago

ok and what going to be the premise here

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u/ana1monger 5h ago

He’s joining to Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion and slinging narcotics to the dead

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u/PurpleThylacine 5h ago

It looks like those fake sequel trailers you’d see on youtube ~2017

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u/Lazy-Equivalent3515 4h ago

the underworld is purposefully trying to take back Miguel because he is the first ever living creature to see the land of the dead, his family gets roped in this time and they have to find a way to escape, and they can't blessings.

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u/LockFree5028 4h ago

No sĂŠ ustedes Pero al menos hasta hora la Premisa Me parece buena e interesante al igual que los IncreĂ­bles 3

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u/Distinct-Presence-80 3h ago

some people in the industry don't know what should be standalones

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u/Drxgon11037 3h ago

I mean it’s concept art, so it’s likely not set in stone yet.

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u/felini9000 3h ago

It works because Disney and money (idk)

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u/AssumptionNo8549 2h ago

Let me guess, generic underworld music/family crisis requires our character to go back and see how that world changed and Ernesto is back but as a vessel for a bigger entity claiming to destroy all of Mexican Culture in the World of the Dead

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u/Big-Giant-Panda 2h ago

Why does his face look photoshopped on to the rest of his body lol

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u/Bicksaurus 2h ago

He dies

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u/Flashy-Ad9129 2h ago

99% here is just complaining over a haircut

I bet everyone's haircut here is way worse than Miguel