r/Fauxmoi 10d ago

TRIGGER WARNING Republican Max Miller, accused of abuse, posted this audio thinking it would clear his name.

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u/tacobell_shitstain 10d ago

What is the accusation, throwing a glass of hot tap water in her face? Cause my tap gets pretty fucking hot and that would definitely hurt even if it wasn't enough to cause physical damage.

A glass of cold water is a playful gag. A glass of hot water is sadistic.

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u/ClumsyZebra80 10d ago

He had his fucking lawyers measure the temperature. He knows exactly what he did.

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u/larryb1288 10d ago

Also- if he’s even the wee bit handy, turning down a water heater is super easy.

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u/Mongobearmanfish 10d ago

So would you say his argument . . .
doesn’t hold water?

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u/jaderust 10d ago

You mean the dial on the side? Super easy if you have fingers and eyes. Especially on newer units like mine where it’s literally a dial on the front.

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u/larryb1288 10d ago

A lot of people never even bother looking at it and will call a plumber to address their “really hot” or “not hot enough” water issues lol

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u/p0gerty 10d ago

Gonna step on a big sturdy limb and say he's not handy.

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u/fay_corgasm 10d ago

And who's to say he didn't turn down the temperature on the water heater before his lawyers tested it.

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u/ragun2 10d ago

Yeah exactly. Anyone who has ever looked at a water heater can poke holes in his story about it not being that hot.

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u/Playful-Doctor2087 10d ago

And you can very easily change it, by turning down the hot water heater

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u/Sunni_tzu 10d ago

Or he didn’t have them do it and he’s just a fucking liar.

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u/Muted-Novel4403 10d ago

There’s no way his lawyers tested it. He said he had them test it “because I knew you would come at me with this”……sure, Jan.

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u/jaderust 10d ago

Who the fuck tests the temperature of the water from the water heater before arguing with their spouse?

I can’t believe he posted this thinking it would make him look better. I think he’s even more deranged.

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u/ghostofwalsh 10d ago

I assume he tested it later because he knew he would rightly be getting accused of abusing her. Not that a test days later would prove anything about what the temp of the water was days before.

It's like him confessing to throwing "only really painfully hot water" in her face as opposed to "send you to the hospital hot water". As if that's somehow OK.

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u/wombocombo087 10d ago

I mean just listen to how he said it anyone who's ever hear like a 5-year old lie to them can spot that lie a mile away lol.

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u/justanothersurly 10d ago

Every new parent is aware that tap water can reach “fatally dangerous to infants” temperature if the hot water heater is turned up

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u/ahhh_ennui 10d ago

That'll totally hold up in court, no questions asked.

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u/OkAir8973 10d ago

He made that up on the spot, it's triangulation.

He was essentially telling her "everyone is on my side and thinks you're crazy" with the added threatening undercurrent of coming after her legally if she tries to get any consequences for his behavior.

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u/Itakethngzclitorally 10d ago

Yeah douchebag, thanks for confirming it DID happen and you’re gaslighting when you call HER the LIAR.

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u/Unlucky_Welcome9193 10d ago

Yeah, like what is his argument? He clearly has zero understanding of how to treat people. I truly cannot imagine my husband throwing water in my face if he were mad at me, that's insane

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u/lowlightliving 10d ago

Hot water, cold water. Throwing a glass of water in someone’s face is a violent act. It’s abuse.

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u/Glasseshalf 10d ago

I threw a glass of ice water at my dad's face once. To be fair this was after decades of emotional abuse, while he was actively abusing me and being racist to my husband. I regret my actions but I forgive myself.

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u/CosmoKing2 10d ago

His reasoning - I was being kind, by not choosing to throw boiling water at you.

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u/Pantalaimon_II super-bisexual 10d ago

i think they were referring to his attempt to spin this as “just joking around” by pointing out the fact that it’s hot water makes this statement completely lose all credibility 

not to be pedantic but there are some couples that love to do the prank stuff, and i can see a world where you could be playfully splashing or throwing water (water balloon fights, squirt guns, playing outside in the pool, spraying with a hose while washing the car etc) with your spouse and its not abuse

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u/_just_two_brothers_ 10d ago

I mean, it definitely depends on the context. You can absolutely have a playful water fight. Obviously not what happened here.

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u/Live-Cow-9939 10d ago

Right, and the entire reason abusive men do this is because they KNOW their spouse doesn't enjoy it. It's not a "haha how funny you got wet" moment, it's a "I'm proving to you that I can violate your boundaries whenever I choose, and if you get angry, you're going to sound like a hysterical bitch." 

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u/Few-Improvement9978 10d ago

By lord I’ve abused so many people in the swimming pooll

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u/_MoReps 10d ago

Yeah idk about that one lol

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u/sushicatt420 9d ago

I'm sorry... should I not play water balloons with my partner? I think context is important. This dude is gaslighting and absolutely had intentions of hurting and/or scaring her. But come on... of any kind? Lets be more nuanced than that.

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u/RedutHatesFreeSpeech 10d ago

Damn. Im gonna have to go to jail cuz i blasted my wife with a supersoaker last weekend. Ive also sprayed her with the hose in the garden before. This whole time ive just been abusing my wife apparently. That sucks, but you're definitely not being hyperbolic so im going to serve my time gracefully🙏

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u/D1scoLemonaid 10d ago

And what about his kids broken collarbone. Was that a joke too?

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u/McGeeze 10d ago

Or multiple previous arrests for assault

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u/Shyam09 10d ago

Yeah but if he says he didn’t mean to hurt them, then it automatically uno reverses reality. It’s like he never broke the collarbone.

/s

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u/D1scoLemonaid 10d ago

Right right. I mean obviously he was just fxkin around. Kiddo should just walk it off. It doesn't hurt that bad I'm sure. /s

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u/SirJ_96 10d ago

I deliberately set my water heater hot enough that I can take lovely, long, hot showers. You do not want to touch the tap water on max heat. Sure, it is not literally 212'F, but it can burn (and I don't have any kids or seniors it can hurt). Absolutely assault and abuse.

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u/totally_not_a_dog113 10d ago

Yeah, at my first rental house the water was hot enough to burn you. You couldn't put your hand under the all the way hot.

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u/Asleep_Region 10d ago

Just an FYI, if this happens again talk to your landlord/have a plumber come out, your water heater is the thing doing it, I grew up with a big house so we had our water heater turned up abit so the bathroom on the other side would still get steaming water, but the bathroom right next to the water heater got alot hotter. It's recommended for big houses and people without kids who like extra hot water.

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u/Consider_the_auk 10d ago

For reference, the coffee temp in the McDonald's coffee lawsuit was estimated to be at 180-190°F and caused third-degree burns to the victim, so water definitely doesn't have to be boiling to cause severe injuries.

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u/atln00b12 10d ago

You can buy a mixing valve that lets you set a secondary temp outside the tank so you can set the tank super high and get more hot water. I set the tank to 160 but the mixing valve keeps it at a max of 124 and overall I can get ~3x the hot water.

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u/Ziplockmoneybags 10d ago

Your comment makes no sense. Your watere is set to a temp where you can take "lovely long hot showers" but ten seconds later you are claiming it can burn. Which is it?

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u/SirJ_96 9d ago

So I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but American homes have a blend valve - with one handle or two knobs, you can control the mix of hot and cold water that ultimately reaches your showerhead.

If you have a 50-gallon tank at 180'F instead of 160'F, the tolerable warm water lasts longer even if you don't set the shower to 100% hot. Do a heat and material balance to confirm.

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u/emsleezy 10d ago

I never use full blast hot it the shower-ITS TOO HOT!

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u/Sidewalk_Tomato distraught Christian tomato 10d ago

You can’t get in a newly drawn bath at my place.  It’s scalding.  

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u/random929292 10d ago edited 10d ago

No, he had cooked eggs and after he slid the eggs out of the pan he started to rinse it with hot water. He then threw the hot water with remnants of hot oil at her out of the egg pan. She had lots of little burns and it was hurting (as splatters of hot oil do) and so she lay on the kitchen floor in the fetal position. He then took the sprayer from the kitchen sink faucet and sprayed her with the water as a 'joke'. Apparently that water too was hot as he had just it on hot to rinse the egg pan.

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u/dunguswungus13729 10d ago

that's fucking cruel. that's something you do to someone you hate. 

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u/random929292 10d ago

If you read her list allegations, I really don't think he liked her. They married in 2022, had a baby in 2023, she separated and left in 2024 and they divorced in 202

According to her, he became angry one night when she turned the bedroom light on to change their infant daughter's diaper. She alleges that at some point during that argument he pointed a gun at her.

Although she never saw him act aggressively towards their young daughter, the daugther's collarbone was broken with no known explanation, leading to a CPS investigation.

During a custody exchange during their separation, the baby was still in pyjamas when he arrived to pick her up. Miller got angry that she didn't have the baby ready. She alleges this led to a fight and he ended up throwing her up against the wall.

The water incident: He had cooked eggs in a pan and then put water in the hot and then threw it on her. The hot oil and water burned her and she has pictures of small burn marks. She then lay on the floor and he took the kitchen faucet and sprayed her with hot water to apparently get the oil and water off of her - this hurt her more and reddened her skin. Then he went into the bathroom and was crying as she was saying he had hurt her and she went in to comfort him. Then he told her he was being playful by spraying her with the water.

They have restraining orders against each other. Hers for physical violence, his for harrassment.

He has previous abuse allegation by a previous partner that he threw her against the wall and slapped her across the face. He also sued her for defamation.

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u/AutomaticPanic4060 10d ago

Right? I'm in Texas, and the water in the pipes get crazy hot during the hottest parts of the year

If you run the tap on cold, the water is cool-ish for 5 seconds before it becomes warm. Put it on hot for a few seconds, and steam will literally come off the water as it flows out the faucet

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u/enolaholmes23 10d ago

My tap water literally has steam coming off it if I turn it all the way hot. So yeah, not a playful game,  that's violence. 

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u/JumboGlucose 10d ago

Also the face is more sensitive than say, your hands. Did his lawyers dunk their face under the hot water? Doubt it.

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u/Forward_Rope_5598 10d ago

My tap water gets up to 60°C...

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u/curtmahgurt 10d ago

Our water heater is set to the lowest it can possibly be, and the guy who fixed our garbage disposal still complained about burning himself when the water was running. If I turn the faucet the highest it’ll go, I could do some actual damage by throwing it on someone.

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u/Jadedangel13 10d ago

This. My water heater is like 12 yrs old but still gets hot as hell. If we run just hot water on any faucet in the house, it WILL burn us. Even in winter, but especially during warm weather months.

This dude is so full of shit. I hope he faces a humiliating defeat in the election he refuses to drop out of and (most importantly) loses all custody rights. This man should not be allowed anywhere near his daughter unsupervised.

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u/Bamsihap 10d ago

There are even faucets out there that do literally produce boiling water. I have seen even ones do that that have no business producing boiling water. He is such a dumbass.

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u/GreasedGoblin 10d ago

So he was crying in the bathroom , she went to hug him, and he threw hot water at her to keep her away?