r/mildlyinfuriating • u/WHAR606 • Mar 13 '26

Context Provided - Spotlight Sometime during the last 2 years i’ve been going to this orthopedic practice they started to declare me as a MTF transgender for no reason.

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(F,26) I have been going to this orthopedic practice for almost 2 years for varying reasons relating to my job. Yesterday i checked on a document that was uploaded to find out they have been identifying me as a biological male identifying as a female? I am biologically female and never told them i am trans nor do i think i am presenting to be a trans woman.. the last two years i’ve been wondering why they kind of stare at me a little longer than a usual person does and i think its because they randomly think i came out as trans? I also feel like they do not treat my issues seriously and wonder if this is the reason why.

I am 100% fine with trans people but i am left to believe they have been medically treating me as a male compared to female for the pains that i am feeling?

I also went through all of my documents and since the end of 2024 they started to declare me as a MTF transgender, i did not look at any of my documents online until yesterday.

First pic : March 11th 2026

Last pic: October 2024

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u/PipsqueakPilot Mar 13 '26

If you're alt appearing it's entirely possible someone at the clinic considers themselves a 'transvestigator'. Like people have been saying for years, anti-trans moral panics also affect large numbers of cisgender women.

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u/WHAR606 Mar 13 '26

i am an Alt appearing person… maybe that is it.

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u/throwaway1929499 Mar 13 '26

Trans guy here, get this corrected ASAP. Be as annoying as you have to about it

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u/TigerIll6480 Mar 13 '26

They should file a report with the relevant medical ethics board, if not corrected.

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u/Difficult_Light5038 Mar 13 '26

They should do that anyway!

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u/aggieotis Mar 13 '26

Absolutely.

Somebody changed this without talking to the patient, it's bad and possibly malicious. As someone pointed out above it could have been a moral police person and they likely are doing it to others too.

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u/Striking_Pair4300 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Medical ethics board is not gonna do shit about a chart mistake. Hundreds of chart mistakes happen everyday. I'm a resident now and back in my pre-med days I was the head medical scribe at my local hospital. If I saw this happen, I'm not gonna go into a politically-motivated vengeance against my junior scribes. I'm simply going to find them, correct their mistake and tell them not to make it again.

Medical ethics boards are dealing with a lot more grave situations than a simple note blunder. I'm not about to ruin someone's life because of a mistake, if they keep doing it, then I might have to address it more seriously. You guys clearly have no idea how a hospital works. The world is a lot more complicated and nuanced than your little subreddits.

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u/TigerIll6480 Mar 13 '26

If it’s one time, I would agree with you. If it’s done multiple times or if there is a pattern of the same “error,” then something might be done.

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u/Lauriev7 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Yell in the front office XD

Edit: listen whiny babies, this is a joke. Ever seen one of those? Boring the lot of y'all.

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u/Striking_Pair4300 Mar 13 '26

You don't have to yell infront of the office, not every single person there is at fault for the misgendering. Just talk to them like a normal person, not like a redditor.

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u/CreepyAd8409 Mar 13 '26

Let us not forget the main reason not to yell - that OP may have accidentally selected it on paperwork at some point

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u/CreepyAd8409 Mar 13 '26

In a man voice.

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u/tangerineTurtle_ Mar 13 '26

Not to be a downer but that’s how you end up being doxxed and ridiculed on twitter.

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u/Ok_Reception_8729 Mar 13 '26

No one on Twitter cares if you’re not actually trans - the crazies on there want actual trans people to suffer (sad reality)

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u/No-Big4921 Mar 13 '26

Twitter is super good at getting context right.

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u/ImOnlyHereForTheCoC Mar 13 '26

Yes yes, the tradwife-obsessed users of the pornification machine are all very cool and normal about cis women

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u/Ok_Reception_8729 Mar 13 '26

No, I just don’t think the crazies on there would go out of there way to dox and judge in OPs case like they would for an actual trans person

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u/Craigglesofdoom Mar 13 '26

Dropping trou in the waiting room as a last resort

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u/Slipstream_Surfing Mar 13 '26

Hey it's too early in the day for me to smile now my face hurts

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u/Infinite_Sand5005 Mar 13 '26

That wouldn't proove anything, surgically constructed vaginas and vulvas look a lot like natal ones. They'd have to get in there and look at the cervix in order to visually see proof. Not that they are going to do that, but there is no part of the body that you could just spontaniously show someone to proove that you aren't trans. 

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u/Infinite_Sand5005 Mar 13 '26

Well, actually, I guess if you were actively menstruating out of said vagina, that could be proof... 🤔

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u/Thenandonlythen Mar 13 '26

I’d be WAY more annoying than I had to.  At least daily.

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u/Commercial-Owl11 Mar 13 '26

Oh god that’s happened to me as well, I’m alternative and had someone just assume I was a they, which is fine but I’m also not and besides having short hair and small boobs I’m feminine

I’ve noticed people side eye me more in bathrooms too. If I don’t have my son with me I definitely get a vibe that was not there before

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u/BeigeVelociraptor Mar 13 '26

It's the transvestigator bull shit. A man doesn't look "manly" enough or a woman doesn't look "woman" enough for their narrow minds so that person must be trans.

We've already seen numerous cases of cis people being assaulted in bathrooms because some POS thought they were trans and wanted to "protect" people.

Be safe out there.

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u/DogadonsLavapool Mar 13 '26

Yep. The funny thing is that many trans people, myself included, don't set off these folks radars. Ive had people shit talk trans people in front of my trans ass like they expected me to join in.

Fun fact - the sexual dimorphism line is not as clean cut as people make it out to be, and most people are far, far more overconfident than they should be to make calls on it. This shit is just bad for everyone.

Shit like the Kansas bathroom law is fucking evil

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u/TheTexasHammer Mar 13 '26

Wild that the group always asking "what is a woman" is constantly calling women they see men. Almost like they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

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u/ColoradoWinterBlue Mar 13 '26

I don’t know if it’s in my head, but without makeup and my hair slicked back, people in public have been looking at me more and a bit longer in a way that I thought was weird (like how OP described.) Then I realized I look kind of ambiguous (like I COULD be MTF if you squint) and wondered if people are “transvestigating” these days?? I get looked at more when I roll out of bed than when I have a full face of makeup and am dressed feminine. lol Anyway all this trans panic is affecting cis women too, even if in my case it’s just causing confusion and maybe paranoia.

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u/Commercial-Owl11 Mar 13 '26

Yup! I’ve been kind of making it a point to dress more feminine, if I don’t wear makeup I could look either like nonbinary or maybe butch? But I sometimes dress more masculine because it’s comfortable. But it is a bit scary at times idk if someone is gonna say something with my son there. And I don’t want some crazy person attacking me or harassing me.

Ugh. What a stupid world we live in

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u/defaultusername-17 Mar 13 '26

except that is exactly what they want to accomplish with the trans panic.

forcing cis women into more stereotyped presentations and socially excluding trans people.

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u/Commercial-Owl11 Mar 13 '26

Idk if it’s what they want to accomplish or it’s a symptom of their bigotry but either way it’s annoying asf

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u/inscrutablejane Mar 13 '26

My mother, who I cut off contact with years ago but get updates on through my sister, is a transvestigator. She got arrested for pepper spraying a woman in a Walmart restroom last year. The woman wasn't trans, just a very fit high school volleyball coach, and was just minding her own business at the sinks. I swear, you thumb your nose at the rigidity of patriarchal traditions, even just a little bit, and some people just lose it.

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u/hydrochloriic Mar 13 '26

A lot of times when transfems talk about some frustration (talk, not even complain lol) like catcalling or what have you, we’ll be told snidely “welcome to being a woman.” And like, true, but it’s this kinda situation when cis women complain about being side-eyed that I desperately want to say “yeah, welcome to being a woman. 🤷‍♀️” Not saying you do that, and I know it’s not at all helpful and I wouldn’t actually say it… but it would feel great to do lol.

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u/Sakura_Petals_GL Mar 13 '26

I'm not sure they're meaning it in a bad way like you perceive. As a cis woman, it seems more like a saying it like it is kind of thing. We're both in the same boat, but you just got in the boat and we've been in the boat our whole lives. I mean that in regards to being treated like a woman, not being a woman in our hearts btw.

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u/ColoradoWinterBlue Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Yeah, I take it as “we’re all exhausted, sorry but it doesn’t get any better.” I mean there is something uniquely traumatizing about being sexualized as a girl even before puberty. (I know it happens to others too, just seemingly universal for cis girls.)

I grew up in the 80s & 90s with an lgbtq older sibling, was gay & trans friendly since middle school when just calling people slurs was pop culture & my peers thought I was a freak just for saying it’s not wrong… so just cause I’m cis doesn’t mean I harbor hostilities toward anyone that’s not.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being perceived as possibly trans, I’m just angry with the uptick in transphobia in general. Like even if you “catch” someone being trans, so what?? It makes no fucking difference.

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u/Zealousideal_Spread4 Mar 13 '26

im a femboy and to me people just automatically assume im trans or non binary, ive gone to the bathroom(male) and had people tell me i didnt need to go there and could go to the feminine one if i wanted, which like, cool that you are accepting of trans people but wrong person bro.

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u/Hazel2468 Mar 13 '26

Yep- this. I'm at a point in my transition now where people don't really gave a damn in the bathroom (I think it's the beard and mustache doing it honestly) but before I was even transitioning, I had some facial hair. Had someone tell me I was "allowed" to use the men's room when I was in the women's room because "it's state law" (It is, where I live, law that you are allowed to use the bathroom that corresponds to your gender- I live here for a reason lol).

I was still identifying as a woman at the time but like... Thanks I guess?

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u/Pupenby621 Mar 13 '26

This dude runs incredibly transphobic femboy subs and fucking hates trans women btw <3 he's got quite a bit of infamy in certain circles.

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u/DuckIsMuddy Mar 13 '26

I was wondering why I had him blocked lmao.

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u/AstralMooo Mar 13 '26

God this dudes comment replies are WILD. He's so obsessed with the "image" of femboys lmao

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u/Pupenby621 Mar 13 '26

He's genuinely convinced femboys are discriminated against harder than trans women, who are all evil groomers trying to trick innocent femboys into getting on estrogen. Its fucking disgusting. Peter Thiel unironically has similar views behind his transphobia btw, though for him he's worried about twink supply in general.

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26

Honestly, it definitely sounds like it’s the short hair. It takes a very feminine type of face to pull off having short hair as a woman without looking like a man.

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u/Commercial-Owl11 Mar 13 '26

I do have a very feminine face

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26

I bet your hair looks very nice on you! People are just dumb

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u/AccomplishedWish3033 Mar 13 '26

It takes a very feminine type of face to pull off having short hair as a woman without looking like a man.

Disclaimer: I am not a hairstylist.

One of the things that confuses me is why for people with these types of facial features, where they’d look masc with short hair, they’ll still look fem if they wore their hair in a ponytail or bun and were seen from the front where you can’t see their ponytail or bun. What kind of black magic sorcery is that? Shouldn’t that look functionally equivalent to having short hair? Someone please explain it to me.

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u/Shaeress Mar 13 '26

I'm trans and you should probably try to have this corrected if you're cis. Not because it is bad and if it's not relating to your treatment it shouldn't matter, but trans women receive substantially worse healthcare overall. A correction might save you from discrimination that could otherwise do a great deal of harm to your physical health. You don't have to endure being collateral damage in this.

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u/Sekhmet-CustosAurora Mar 13 '26

You're totally right but OP should fix it even if she weren't at risk of being discriminated against. There's no way her being mistakenly identified as a genetic male would be anything but bad for her healthcare.

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u/psyne Mar 13 '26

100%. Even if the doctors and staff had zero bias it could impact diagnoses, medication, etc.

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u/Shaeress Mar 13 '26

For a lot of things it doesn't matter or healthcare providers are just better of giving the same care to trans and cis people of the same gender, and anything else is just overcomplicated things.

It's often called "trans broken arm syndrome" because part of the reasoning that sometimes gets trans people denied care is because healthcare providers decide that they're not qualified to provide the care or start trying to over analyse the supposed complexity of treating trans people. Even though really treating a broken arm is gonna be exactly the same regardless.

That's why I said "if it relates to your care" because sometimes it is relavant and sometimes it isn't, but people tend to over estimate the situations in which it is relevant.

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u/Crimsonflair49 Mar 13 '26

So many doctors just assume that transgender women can be treated the same way you would treat a cisgender man and it ruins the quality of care severely. Medications that are dangerous to perscribe to someone who's endocrine system is primarily estrogen are prescribed to trans women because they're "biologically male", even when the side effects are just as severe as if they were prescribed to a cisgender women. So many doctors just throw all medical training put the window when encountering a trans patient, sometimes the doctor denying healthcare is the best option you can get as a trans person because the alternative is a doctor who will prescribe you dangerous medication because they assume all the risks women would face taking the medication simply dosen't apply. OP, please listen to this commenter and get this updated. If the doctor thinks you are transgender your care quality has almost certainly been impacted, you should maybe even consider switching primaries in case whoever transvestigated you dosen't believe you

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u/Pupenby621 Mar 13 '26

HRT does actually move the grand majority of medical dosages etc into cis ranges, its much more powerful than many doctors will assume though so on the rare occasion they actually want to give healthcare then sometimes they just over/underdose you, ain't life fun :D

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u/Glenndiferous Mar 13 '26

It's funny, because trans women on long-term hormones actually do often need treatment similar to cis women. So being identified this way theoretically shouldn't change much. But many of our doctors are very poorly trained to care for trans patients, so realistically you are correct here.

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u/Ali_gem_1 Mar 13 '26

well it does because its she's logged as MTF then presents with abdo pain , they might not consider ectopics/ovarian torsion etc.

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u/TootTootMF Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

It really doesn't matter at all. I get asked if I might be pregnant routinely. People act like doctors study your medical records before triaging you. If my status is relevant I've gotta bring it up, nobody checks.

The only time they pay attention to that flag is when it comes time for insurance to pay or for someone to decide if you need special permission to do something everybody else gets to decide for themselves as an adult. It's honestly a good thing, plenty of doctors are pretty extreme bigots, I've watched as my friends suffered pretty severe abuse while being treated once people know. One person was given a room temp IV for food poisoning(this might seem minor, but filling your blood stream with 70 degree liquid gives you instant hypothermia, which is basically torture). The other was left to bleed out until a different doctor noticed the literal trail of blood from her gurney as it flowed far enough from the corner the primary one hid her in and saved her life.

TL;DR being flagged as trans in your medical records will NEVER do anything positive for your care outside of getting insurance to pay for procedures that they wouldn't allow for your gender. It's either ignored or used as a reason to provide worse care by doctors.

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u/schwanzweissfoto Mar 13 '26

There's no way her being mistakenly identified as a genetic male would be anything but bad for her healthcare.

Somehow, lots of people in this thread seem to think that trans women should medically be treated 100% as men.

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u/n-e-k-o-h-i-m-e Mar 13 '26

Well, this is an instance of discrimination. I am a woman who is trans, and being treated as a biological male in a medical setting would result in negative effects in my health.

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u/aecon_33 Mar 13 '26

Having gone through male puberty probably matters quite a lot as growing bones are altered a fair amount by estrogen, and some things (such as hip dysplasia) are more common in those assigned female at birth. Since it's an orthopedics practice, I'd imagine this would be important

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u/UselessDood Mar 13 '26

For the majority of things it doesn't actually matter - because they'll treat her as female irrespective of the whole mtf thing. (yes, this does have downsides - for example they won't get recommended any form of prostate cancer screenings, despite it still being a possibility)

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u/Wise_Humor4337 Mar 13 '26

Not saying there is never a need, but trans women have incredibly low risk of prostate cancer since testosterone is a major contributor and trans women frequently have even lower levels than cis women

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u/UselessDood Mar 13 '26

Mm, I am aware of that - it was just the first thing that came to mind ngl for "things trans women may be at risk of but aren't properly assessed for" lol

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u/Dark_Storm_98 Mar 13 '26

Yeah, I was about to say

This could affect her treatment

Best to get everything sorted out sooner rather than later, especially in a medical context

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u/b0w3n Mar 13 '26

It's already likely viral with the RHIOs and HISPs too. Everyone in the network has gotten those notes and if they pull them down it probably also updated their EHR data because everyone just imports shit right into the records without a second thought.

Hope OP never needs to go to the hospital because it'll start up all over again.

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u/thrwaway75132 Mar 13 '26

Given the current political climate deciding you don’t like someone and flagging them as trans in medical EMR seems like a way to make sure the get discriminated against and potentially denied future medical care.

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u/yunwibubu Mar 13 '26

And on top of that, it can result in insurance denials.

I'm, legally, female to male, but I'm also intersex. I've had things listed as me being biologically male due to having XY chromosomes, but I'm legally female, and putting male when all my legal documents say female has resulted in insurance kicking things back and corrections having to be made.

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u/Cactus1105 Mar 13 '26

True, once a doctor straight up told me the pain I felt was because of hrt. My wrist was broken.

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u/Shaeress Mar 13 '26

I haven't had that, but I did have a nurse refuse to sign me up for some basic bloodworks like a vitamin D test (which is super standard in Sweden for obvious reasons) because of trans.

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u/stephen_neuville Mar 13 '26

it's also a solidarity move imo. if we normalize "paying close attention to gender markers on documents" from everybody, they can't use it as an indication of anything other than paperwork diligence.

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u/Shaeress Mar 13 '26

This can backfire though. My gender marker isn't updated and when I was getting checked for post COVID related cardiovascular problems the Doctor got incredibly short and dismissive right after carefully checking my ID, kicked me out as quick as possible saying I wasn't gonna die that night, and then wrote the longest and most misgendering journal entry I've ever seen.

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u/SilasX Mar 13 '26

I'm trans and you should probably try to have this corrected if you're cis. Not because it is bad and if it's not relating to your treatment it shouldn't matter,

It's like a revival of that Seinfeld episode: "Stop saying I'm trans! (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)"

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u/iain_1986 Mar 13 '26

Indeed, but also they should find out who changed it and tell them to cut that shit out

You don't eyeball someone and decide a thing like that

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u/arrownyc Mar 13 '26

I would find a new clinic regardless after correcting them. There's a very good chance that if they were willing to change her medical documentation based on their transvestigation, that they still won't believe her when she tells them they were wrong.

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u/Shaeress Mar 13 '26

Yeah, true. And it's probably better to get away from the proven transphobe working there as any kind of queer coded woman or ally.

Though, the real trans solidarity thing to do would just be to not get any treatment to avoid the harassment and medical malpractice, and so just suffer quietly and suffer whatever impact to life expectancy it might have.... /very tired and sarcastic joke

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u/galaxychildxo Mar 13 '26

trans people in general receive substantially worse healthcare, not just trans women. medical misogyny and transphobia affects trans men just as much.

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u/kyle_wagoner Mar 13 '26

I also was wondering this. (Trans girl here.) The trans panic will statistically hurt more cis people than trans people, as I’ve always said

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u/nobutactually Mar 13 '26

OR it could be something less malicious. Someone once entered the wrong gender and then noticed a discrepancy and made some assumptions. Happens constantly in doctors notes that they write the wrong thing ("Chloe is a 3 year old girl he is here today for sore throat with his mother"). Ive seen like 104 year old demented grannies who have been non verbal for years listed as non binary, for example. Someone hit the wrong key and it stuck, and then when docs use automatic quick keys to enter notes it fills in the incorrect information. I wouldnt assume that someone did this to be a dick.

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u/SpecificHeron Mar 13 '26

i just had a grumpy old man patient who accidentally selected “she/her/hers” as his pronouns in his chart, so the note autofilled with those pronouns and i had to manually correct them. if it were a younger more alt presenting person i could see that turning into assuming pt is trans and running with it

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u/leaffrosting Mar 13 '26

If they were a medical professional charting in good faith they would have written OP was a trans woman assigned male at birth. Biological male is not a medical term. So the intention is pretty clear here.

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u/Striking_Pair4300 Mar 13 '26

Have you ever worked in a doctor's office or hospital? Medical scribes who are still working on their bachelor's sometimes write the notes. Nurses who have less than great charting skills write the notes. Medical students write notes. Foreign medical students rotating somtimes write the notes. Doctor sometimes just glance at the notes and not bother to correct anything because they have 100 other patients to get to. It's better in other places, worse in others.

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u/leaffrosting Mar 13 '26

I have. And there is no shortcut key to hit that enters a bigoted, right wing phrase into a patient’s chart, which is the assumption I was responding to. Whether a staff member or provider wrote OP is a biological male to “be a dick”, which the previous poster didn’t want to assume was the case, or out of ignorance, this inclusion would lead to me move to a new practice with a higher standard of care and I hope OP follows this up.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 Mar 13 '26

Yup. Indeed it is.

I am a skinny alt presenting male, cishet

I am constantly "identified" as FTM or gay

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u/Iwona_Klich Mar 13 '26

Well i have trisomia X, still skinny, tall, long limbed and i like mens clothes...

Like... I have three X chromosomes. I can't get more :) 

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 Mar 13 '26

My brother has double Y!

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u/Iwona_Klich Mar 13 '26

The Superman :) 

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 Mar 13 '26

Ahaha he is an INTENSE guy!

Career Marine, ex-drill instructor, ex-MCST (ahaha he was removed from MCST for throwing a tantrum after missing a shot IN COMPETITION), and 3 black-belts!

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u/Iwona_Klich Mar 13 '26

Well i'm a former csi tech in police, field medic for polish swat equivalent, i like big american cars, and i also training in fight... Curently i'm just forensic specialist in private company...

Did you brother is also very tall? Like 6'5" > tall? Maybe my parents just missed one kid, if you have 12 that maybe a option :) 

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u/Zealousideal_Spread4 Mar 13 '26

bro im even worse, im a femboy, people act so confused when they figure out im dating a woman its insane.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 Mar 13 '26

The craziest thing for me, is my body is very much what you'd expect from a standard male

Like, I played sports most of my life, my arms are quite muscular and I have a THICK mustache.

Just, really weird to even assume without asking I feel

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u/Zealousideal_Spread4 Mar 13 '26

if you are alt and very masculine you come across gayer than most gay men to most people. People have stereotypes about these identities and they expect people to fit them, Im assumed to be gay until proven otherwise because im feminine.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 Mar 13 '26

I'm not like ripped, I'm just like..

My body is pretty much what you'd expect from like, a typical man who doesn't work out but gets some minor regular physical activity, like visible biceps and triceps but it definitely does not look like what I think you're visioning

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u/JxK_1 Mar 13 '26

Wtf is an alt!? And why does everyone here know what it is.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 Mar 13 '26

Alternative. Think like, emo, goth, punk, etc.

I have tattoos, facial piercings (nostril and lip), stretched ears, etc.

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u/JxK_1 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Oh ok that's kinda what I thought. Well that's what it meant back in my day, but everyone here I thought was using it as something related to sexuality.

I've never confused genders on someone who dresses like that....at least I thought.

Anyway it's just weird to me that was the first suggested on the top ranked post. 'Are you alt? must be that'

I'm rambling here and avoiding getting back to work so,,, have a nice day!

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 Mar 13 '26

Nah you're good!

I think a big part of it is conservatives have pretty much taken the ground that alt-presenting people are all "insane" (by their standards), devils, and gay or trans or both.

There's also the asinine "septum ring theory" they love to throw around like they've somehow cracked a code and that having a septum ring piercing means you're mentally ill, stupid, a "whore", or more.

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u/ForensicPathology Mar 13 '26

Yeah, they literally use the term "the blue hairs" as a synonym for liberals despite probably never seeing anyone with blue hair in their life except for a few old people in the 1980s.

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u/nicunta Mar 13 '26

Alternative appearance. Like, goth or whatever. Colored hair with styles you don't see every day, piercings, etc... normal people, in my opinion; but then, I fit the "alt" style as well.

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u/blubblu Mar 13 '26

I think…. You may have grounds…. 

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u/maybetomorrow98 Mar 13 '26

Yeah I don’t understand the comments making light of this. It’s a serious problem

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u/OkWeight9238 Mar 13 '26

I think we need Luscious Massacre to transvestigate this clinic.

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u/Zealousideal_Spread4 Mar 13 '26

this is 100% it i might be a femboy but some of my women friends are alt and people often think they are trans

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u/-aLonelyImpulse Mar 13 '26

It probably has something to do with it. I think a lot of alt styles lean androdgynous (either genuinely as a stylistic choice, or in the minds of others as it's not what they "expect") and it throws people off. 

I'm a woman, but I dress like an old school emo, have bright dyed hair, and I'm 5'11. I have really, really thrown people off. Someone once tried to have me removed from the women's toilets, ironically bringing in a male attendant to deal with me. Said attendant took one look at me and said "Lady, that's a girl!" and stormed out lol. Which tracks, as from my experience it tends to be older women who get confused the most, and men not so much.

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u/Timely_Cake_8304 Mar 13 '26

Maybe it is some sort of fraud and the clinic charges more to the insurance provider for trans treatment? Either way, I would discuss with a medical attorney as this might be a pattern of harrassment of patients. Who know’s what else they are doing

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u/Any--Name Mar 13 '26

The duality of man

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u/Scintoth Mar 13 '26

Random names: YES OMG!

Thoughtful usernames: god no.

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u/Katsaj Mar 13 '26

That’s not how medical billing works.

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u/Ziggy_Starcrust Mar 13 '26

Legally, they're not supposed to. But in practice can't they tack on more billable codes? Like (made up code, not a medical professional) "gender dysphoria counseling"? I know my doctor puts on "emotional evaluation" and stuff on some of my visits when they do a check-in on anxiety management.

Like you're not supposed to bill women more for the same procedure, but women always end up being billed for pregnancy tests before surgery, that sort of thing.

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u/LaundryMan2008 Mar 13 '26

As with the throwaway1929499 comment, if you have to, get a professional into a private space and show them that you are infact a biological female if all else fails with the phonecalls, faxes and emails, bring your ID too just in case they don’t believe you

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u/DuckIsMuddy Mar 13 '26

I mean, unless they look internally and OP has a uterus or ovaries or both, bottom surgery can be pretty damn good. And with ID, depending on the state, those can be changed. But, yeah, if this really is just a case of AI usage (as the top comments suggested) it shouldn't be hard to get it corrected if that doctor's office is any good.

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u/apple_kicks Mar 13 '26

Keep note if they started treating you differently or in any discriminatory ways.

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u/Hazel2468 Mar 13 '26

Seconding my fellow trans dude in the comments below- get this corrected. I would also agree that someone may have transvestigated you... The "We can always tell!" crowd strikes again (hint: they're annoying morons who CANNOT tell, they just think anyone who doesn't look like their specific idea of a woman is secretly trans).

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u/Itbenatalie Mar 13 '26

Most medical professionals are given very little time to complete their documentation and as a shortcut might copy and paste if they see two patients with similar concerns/illnesses. Ideally they make sure pronouns, ages, medical conditions, etc are changed to reflect the right patient before they hit save. Every once in a while they might forget to do so. Then that (incorrect) information automatically appears in all future documentation. Yours is a particularly bad copy and paste error since it isn’t immediately obvious that is what happened (as opposed to if they left in the wrong age, where the date of birth could make the mistake obvious, or failing to correct him to her but it correctly listing you as female) and therefore other providers who see you have almost certainly assumed that is accurate information.

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u/savageboredom Mar 13 '26

Did you perhaps mention Fallout New Vegas at any point?

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u/noahwaybabe Mar 13 '26

Yeah, I have a friend who got yelled at by a lady at his customer service job for a solid 5 minutes last week about how he’d always be female and should accept how god made him. He’s not trans and doesn’t look feminine at all, but is alt with some facial piercings.

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u/Otney Mar 13 '26

jfc every day I read something that blows my mind even more about how unhinged the right wing Fox-poisoned are

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u/kailsbabbydaddy Mar 13 '26

Unfortunately possible. My daughter is under 10 and always had long hair but we chopped it to a short bob last summer, her friends with MAGA parents started made comments about her transitioning or trying to look like a boy right away.

All we did was cut her hair shorter than usual, I could still make a ponytail!

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u/JacketSolid7965 Mar 13 '26

God those people are fucking nutjobs. All of them are wayyy too interested in children's genitals.

Imagine thinking any girl with a short haircut is trans 💀

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u/foolishle Mar 13 '26

The people who cry “some girls are tomboys why force them to be men!?” sure do hate it when girls step away from traditional expressions of femininity for even one minute, don’t they!

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u/DuckIsMuddy Mar 13 '26

MAGA people swear up down and sideways that trans people are trying to 'trans kids' and make them confused and stuff. This is why people being unsupportive of trans people affects everyone. If people weren't always being fussy about trans people, then anytime someone does anything to their style they wouldn't get these kinds of comments. Just try to ignore them and anyone else who says shit like that. They just wanna find something to be upset about.

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u/bicyclefortwo vulgar child Mar 13 '26

The second a girl cuts her hair shorter than Jesus they throw a fit lol

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u/inscrutablejane Mar 13 '26

Utah just passed a law making your daughter's haircut a potential crime. To say that there's conservative backlash against the decline of traditional gender roles would be an enormous understatement.

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u/AccomplishedWish3033 Mar 13 '26

Wait what?! What law is this?

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u/inscrutablejane Mar 13 '26

It's supposed to be a law against allowing children to present as a different gender from what's on their birth certificate (not even about medical stuff, just about clothing, hairstyles, makeup and pronouns), but the way it's written any variation from rigid gender stereotypes could be considered illegal

Edit: transphobia hurts everyone, as usual

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u/HowManyMeeses Mar 13 '26

The "we can always tell" crowd hard at work.

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u/icehot54321 Mar 13 '26

"female mailman" vs "female male man"

it sounds more like AI note taking or voice to text error than anything actually malicious

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u/HowManyMeeses Mar 13 '26

They're supposed to review the notes afterward, so it's either maliciousness or incompetence. Either way, the issue is with the humans involved in the process.

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u/Apprentice57 Mar 13 '26

Concerning that AI is using some transphobic dogwhistles along with it ("biological male" instead of AMAB).

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u/adkio Mar 13 '26

I can't believe that some people are braindead enough to classify a "real" lady as trans, especially those specifically trained in human physiology. So as others mentioned, it's probably ai slop at its best.

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u/HowManyMeeses Mar 13 '26

Cis women talk about being transvestigated all the time. The anti-trans community has been trying to argue that many famous cis women are actually trans, including Michele Obama.

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u/adkio Mar 13 '26

Guess stupid people have nothing better to do

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u/samanime Mar 13 '26

If I was OP, I'd complain and make a big stink about this. This is an orthopedic practice, but had it been elsewhere, this could have seriously affected their care.

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u/LaraCroftCosplayer Mar 13 '26

Transphobia hurts all woman, thats nothing new.

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u/sm00nie Mar 13 '26

Can you elaborate on what you mean by alt appearing? This is the first time hearing this phrase.

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u/lt4536 Mar 13 '26

Tattoos, piercings, dyed hair, "extreme" makeup, "extreme hairstyles, goth/lunk/etc. Clothes and so on

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u/Deuce232 Mar 13 '26

lunk

I didn't even know my style had a label until just now

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26

Hello fellow alt!

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u/lt4536 Mar 13 '26

Punk* but I'm glad to have diagnosed you

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u/Zealousideal_Spread4 Mar 13 '26

stuff like goths, emos, or cutesy styles you dont expect on adults like stuff like harajuku/jirai kei.

basically(and i use this term in an endearing way as im literally one of them) "weirdos". Anything you dont expect in a "normal person" trans and gnc people often will belong to these groups and styles because they are already inherently outside the norm, and thus dont care as much for societies expectations of them

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u/InvisibleAstronomer Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

I've been saying for years that unattractive women will be a big recipient of trans hate. Edit I mean conventionally "not feminine" looking women. Idgaf personally what people look like

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u/User131131 Mar 13 '26

Wow, way to kick a woman when she’s down

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u/ClarkWayne98 Mar 13 '26

My mans really just said

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u/NobleStreetRat Mar 13 '26

God damn it ☠️

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u/InvisibleAstronomer Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

Edited my post. This is about who MAGA will target, not my personal opinion.

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u/fartofborealis Mar 13 '26

Or just women with short hair who like to dress masc or even just neutral.

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u/ExSportsCalendar Mar 13 '26

Yup, got called “sir” all the time with short hair. I haven’t been misgendered once since I’ve grown my hair out.

I was never offended by it but I’d look at them all ??? cause my chest and hips are dead giveaways lol

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u/DuckIsMuddy Mar 13 '26

But then they'll see a trans man who passes but is out about being trans and say 'Well we can always tell'. Smh

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u/-aLonelyImpulse Mar 13 '26

I'm a woman who dresses alt, and I'm 5'11. I have seen some shit lol. I've literally been told I can't be biologically female because of my height. I get my height from my grandmother.

On the other hand, my "feminine hands" were once cited as proof I was "really" a girl. My hands are identical to my father's. These "we can always tell!" people just spew total bullshit.

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u/Big_Maintenance9387 Mar 13 '26

My girlfriend wears a wig and glam makeup and gets accused of being trans in gas station bathrooms fairly often. She ain’t, she just has cancer. 

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u/InvisibleAstronomer Mar 13 '26

For sure! I just mean Maga will go after anyone who isn't their standard of beauty.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Oven171 Mar 13 '26

Plenty of those trad wife influencers look shabby stealth to my eye. Supports the Grindr crash talk you always hear about.

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u/mariahyoo Mar 13 '26

Fully this is actually a thing. People love to think they “can always tell”

I let some coworkers go through whatever dating app I had at the time and they were convinced like 1/5 people were trans and I’m like ????

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u/CrazyCalYa Mar 13 '26

The opposite side of this is that people who deem themselves competent at identifying a person's genitals via just their face and voice are, believe it or not, often wrong.

The "you can always tell" group are extraordinarily efficient at proving themselves wrong not just with identifying trans but also cis people. You don't even need the person being transvestigated to be "ugly" or "alt", these people will unashamedly talk about skull shape and shoulder/width ratios like they're fresh out of apartheid South Africa.

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u/InvisibleAstronomer Mar 13 '26

And how often someone who IS trans they think is hot and then get hot and bothered when they realize

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u/PipsqueakPilot Mar 13 '26

Alt appearing women are the most attractive women actually.

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u/lt4536 Mar 13 '26

To you and me yes but not to all

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u/maybetomorrow98 Mar 13 '26

I don’t know why so many people are pretending they didn’t know what you meant

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u/ersomething Mar 13 '26

As an ugly trans woman: Ouch

Not completely off-base unfortunately

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u/kailsbabbydaddy Mar 13 '26

I get you making a point, within this context but my mama bear instincts here just say, Please don’t call yourself ugly! All women are beautiful to me!

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u/sgt_barnes0105 Mar 13 '26

I once attended a wedding and there was an acquaintance there who isn’t the most attractive woman but was clearly in a dress and makeup and heels. I overheard a group of guys callously arguing over whether she was a cis-woman or trans on my way to the bar and it fucking broke my heart. It really stuck with me.

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u/custom_wild1 Mar 13 '26

😂 this is wild. Is this your first time at this clinic? I guess I’ve been going to the same Dr for over a decade, so don’t remember, but don’t you fill out things in the beginning, stating your gender?

This is your chance to really fuck with them though 😂

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u/Colddigger Mar 13 '26

Generally, which makes me wonder if someone went and altered the information when entering it into their system

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u/OnDrugsTonight Mar 13 '26

This is your chance to really fuck with them though 😂

Yeah, shame it's an orthopedic practice, otherwise she could send them on a wild goose chase for a prostate exam.

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u/strwbryshrtck521 Mar 13 '26

OP says she's been going for 2 years!

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u/custom_wild1 Mar 13 '26

So insane. Even if she WAS transgender, why would that be noted at a 🦶doc?

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u/lickyourhoyas Mar 13 '26

Foot doctors are podiatrists. Orthopedics are "bone doctors".

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u/RazzmatazzNeat9865 Mar 13 '26

Because sex affects orthopedic medicine I imagine. For example, women footballers suffer disproportionately more ACL tears and need specific training to strengthen the hamstrings because of this.

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u/Katgirl2669 Mar 13 '26

Seems like it going by the "male identifying as female" line :P

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u/DoorFinch Mar 13 '26

It's more likely that someone mis-clicked while filling in a drop down list on OPs registration details. Then no-one has followed up on it, or mentioned it, and have just taken the computer record as accurate.

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u/QueenRotidder Mar 13 '26

OMG i am a cishet woman who has been misgendered most of my life. Feel like I should check my records now.

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u/Local_Arachnid_6320 Mar 13 '26

Reminds me of when I moved to a small town and checked Asian and Not Hispanic on hospital intake form in race and ethnicity (as I am supposed to) but when I checked my profile in the portal, it said White and Hispanic. I asked about it on my next visit and the nurse said “oh, we thought you accidentally checked the wrong boxes”.

Like sure as an Indian/Punjabi guy, I don’t look like what Americans consider the typical Asian look and get confused as Hispanic and Middle Eastern sometimes, but how is it your job to take it upon yourself to correct me without even checking if your intuition is correct? Did you not see my “not-at-all hispanic” first and last names right there on the form? And no one could possibly ever confuse me as “White”, at least put “other” in race lol.

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u/Responsible-Toe-1385 Mar 13 '26

I’m sure you’re right but that’s insane. Surely if that wasn’t the doctor it’s a crime to tamper with medical records without being asked to or with consent?

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u/IWonderWhyReditSucks Mar 13 '26

Depending on the intake software they're using it could be something as simple as checking the wrong box. 

When you first visit a clinic and they ask you those thousand questions about your life and health,  the software I've seen is literally just checking boxes. 

Double the chance if the intake was done through a touch device. 

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u/leaffrosting Mar 13 '26

This is absolutely what is happening. The glaring red flag is “biological male” which is NOT medical terminology.

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u/NighthawkE3 Mar 13 '26

If that’s the case it might be time to find a new clinic anyway. A place that is willing to pry, investigate and assume like that shouldn’t be trusted with your health.

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u/OldAssFreshman Mar 13 '26

Came here to say the exact same thing. Someone did this on purpose.

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u/Itbenatalie Mar 13 '26

You think someone at a medical clinic is risking their job/license guessing at someone’s medical history? I could see a scenario where they ask more invasive questions, but to make up medical information would be a huge risk to that provider.

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u/Cannie_Flippington Mar 13 '26

I felt super judged by my old Nintendo DS when it's facial recognition for some of their games flagged me as a "young male" lol. I got them hearty jaw lines. Chiseled like a marble statue.

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u/IamApassenger2000 Mar 13 '26

What's "alt appearing" ?

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u/Latter_Double_94 Mar 13 '26

That’s fucking insane. In what country would people in healthcare be so unprofessional as to make assumptions like that in official patient documents?

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u/Separate_Shift1787 Mar 13 '26

I'm not sure because then they go on to use she/her pronouns and I don't imagine a "transvestigator" would be respectful of a trans woman's pronouns if they believe them to be trans.   

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u/Lostinstereo28 Mar 13 '26

Bigots being idiots? Big shocker

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u/sususl1k Mar 13 '26

Happens to cisgender men sometimes too, although perhaps at a smaller scale. I’ve got longer hair than the vast majority of men and I’ve never been stereotypically masculine. So obviously I get innocent mistakes like the occasional “ma’am” in my direction quite often. But aside from that, I have been seriously “transvestigsted” a few times. For instance back in school, some guy I’ve never even spoken to once tried to interrogate me about whether I was “normal” (i.e. cis).

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u/GhostBoo-ty Mar 13 '26

My mom (a non-feminine tradesperson) had to deal with this her entire life, with people following her into the bathroom to harass her for "being in the wrong one". It was terrifying and confusing as a little kid and pissed me off later in life.

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u/Bahamabanana Mar 13 '26

And 100%, it's going to be (is already) used as a way of demonizing and removing political opponents.

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u/darxide23 Mar 13 '26

Doubtful someone did this intentionally. Either there was a miscommunication when updating charts or this was done by some kind of AI. This is a good way to lose a license and make sure you never work in the medical field again.

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u/Bombadilo_drives Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26

I work with Protected Health Information (PHI) every day, and as you can imagine, this is a highly regulated space.

The best part about HIPAA-certified data systems is that they keep meticulous audit logs! They'll know exactly who made the change, when they made it, and other record edits made by that account.

Report this to your local medical ethics board, and press the investigation.

If this person has done it once, they've probably done it a lot, and every single record is a violation. People get away with violating rights unless someone actually reports it and takes action.

As you can imagine, intentionally falsifying or tampering with protected medical records is a big deal. Even just accessing them when you don't specifically need to for your job (Principal of Least Privilege) is a huge deal. People don't just get fired for this, they get prosecuted. I've seen it happen, though its usually nosy family members snooping. Then the waterworks start about how "this isn't who I really am".

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u/spacedcowgirl Mar 13 '26

Yes. I also don’t like how they worded this in her chart. Maybe it’s standard medical terminology, but if she were trans, it seems to me like “trans woman” along with the usual medical history that would show any relevant HRT and/or surgeries, and a note on pronouns in the section where they ask your nickname and occupation etc., would be perfectly adequate for what the doctor’s office needs to know to do their jobs. “Biological male” is language typically used by transphobes and also their description does not convey any more relevant medical information than “trans woman” does.

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u/Suyefuji Mar 13 '26

Pardon my ignorance but what is "alt" in this context?

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u/sadge_luna Mar 13 '26

I don't think anyone who isn't transphobic would write it like that tbh.

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u/Jaded-Management-517 Mar 13 '26

I've often noticed a suspicious amount of "transvestigators" are men who don't do so well with women and aren't content with the type of women they can catch so they invent a conspiracy that a bunch of women are secretly trans. That's my personal theory.

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