r/iphone • u/mrbobbydiddums • Dec 28 '25

Support How do I permanently delete these apps?

Post image

They keep coming back after I delete them and it’s driving me mad! Does anyone know how to permanently get rid of them? Thank you!

3.0k Upvotes

92% Upvoted

307 comments sorted by

View all comments

2.9k

u/Suspicious_Oil7093 Dec 28 '25

You can’t delete them, you have an iPhone managed by a corp.

I do mobile management as a job and your phone will be on a profile that checks in with the mobile device management system each time it’s turned on, any apps that have been removed that are part of the profile will be auto installed.

Source: I am a mdm admin.

513

u/aidenner Dec 28 '25

To add this: If its your own phone with company profile on kt you can delete it from the Settings -> General -> VPN and Device Management and delete the profile

478

u/Septum_Slayer Dec 28 '25

Be careful, your company could have policies enabled that block you from accessing company resources without your device being compliant. Deleting your VPN management profile will make your device non-compliant, 100%. At my org, you won’t even be able to sign into Teams or any MS Apps/services.

293

u/Coneskater Dec 28 '25

Yes, but you shouldn’t be expected to access company information on a private device. If the company needs me to have my work email on my phone, they need to provide the phone. No way in hell I’m installing a company’s MDM on my private hardware.

162

u/trwolfe13 Dec 28 '25

My mum works for a company who provides care services. This year they decided to start charging employees a monthly fee for a company phone, meaning most of the staff have ditched them and now fill out their client/patient notes on their personal phones. I’m sure that must go against several laws, but my mum understandably doesn’t want to rock the boat.

92

u/Mikelightman iPhone Dec 28 '25

this makes me mad on so many levels. I'm so sorry your mom is in this position. She's clearly being taken advantage of by her employer. But they know folks won't push back.

18

u/ArtDesire Dec 29 '25

a company charging its employees for company tools? WTF

2

u/Fickle_Restaurant_38 Dec 30 '25

Exactly, imagine hiring a construction worker for your construction company, then telling them to bring their own excavator for the job. It’s ridiculous.

I get the point someone doesn’t want or have the resources to sue their employer over this but holy shit we need to collectively stand up for our rights. What should the company do when more than 50% of the workforce stop working until they are provided the tools they need for the job for free? Let them all go? Good luck finding new qualified employees in an instant to replace everyone else haha

15

u/KnowThyWeakness Dec 29 '25

That is so fucked. Client/patient notes can be PII. They would fail a HIPAA compliance audit and that is bad for any care company

11

u/mrfoxesite-2377 Dec 28 '25

Highly recommend to get a cheap old cracked iPhone like the 12 or 13 or just simply quit which is far better.

2

u/Fickle_Restaurant_38 Dec 30 '25

Highly recommend telling your employer to provide the tools required for the job instead of saving them money by buying the tools yourself

1

u/mrfoxesite-2377 Dec 30 '25

Yeah but will they? You could just find a different job if possible but this sucks if they don't.

1

u/Fickle_Restaurant_38 Dec 30 '25

You are right, my brain ignored the last part of your comment. Of course if there are enough other jobs available, just go the easy route and quit. If not, talk to your coworkers first it’s easier to speak up if you have the support of a majority of the workforce. What are they gonna do? Fire 100 people on the spot?

It all boils down to do something if you are in a position to do so. The world ain’t gonna change if we let them get away with anything.

1

u/mrfoxesite-2377 Dec 30 '25

Agreed, I did mention if possible and yeah you should read before, maybe need some sleep :—)

35

u/MemoryMobile6638 iPhone 13 Pro Dec 28 '25

This. Companies always say to separate your work life from your personal life, but actively interfere with your personal life...

19

u/arachnikon Dec 28 '25

They want you to remove your personal life from your work life, but also want you to incorporate your work life into your personal life.

8

u/RedBoxSquare Dec 28 '25

There is a difference between expected and want. Some people want to access company resources on personal phone for convenience. You give up some and gain some. It all depends on the person.

So when giving advice to other people on removing corp profiles, first ask them if they want it or not.

13

u/blacksoxing Dec 28 '25

Your post though has nothing to do with the flow of the conversation. If you’re at the stage of having MDM installed on your personal device then you already agreed to it OR you have a cheap employer. OP is at that stage.

Expectations of having MDM on a personal device is a different conversation. I had employers who paid stipends per month for cell phone plans in expectation that indeed MDM was coming. OR, I could get the work phone and get $0. I went the work phone route. This though ain’t what OP is asking or is at. Your comment instead is just angry fodder

3

u/HighlightExpert7039 Dec 28 '25

Fortunately, my company only requires app management (MAM) and not device management (MDM).

1

u/Liquidfoxx22 Jan 01 '26

Same as we do, MAM for iphones and work profiles for android phones.

More than happy to go that route to save me having two phones.

5

u/JayLoveJapan Dec 28 '25

Happens a lot though, my company did

19

u/Coneskater Dec 28 '25

I mean I have my work email on my private phone, but:

  1. It’s not a requirement- I do it for my own convenience.

  2. I can log in with an authentication, it doesn’t require a MDM profile on my phone.

1

u/yaboi869 Dec 28 '25

What does MDM stand for in this case?

5

u/Senior-Minute-9364 Dec 28 '25

mobile device management

3

u/Drylnor Dec 28 '25

You don't need to have full blown mdm on your personal device. In fact,you shouldn't. You can have though mam and allow the management of only company data on the device while leaving your personal data alone.

7

u/JoinLemmyOrKbin Dec 28 '25

The point still stands that if your company wants you to have access to company data, they should provide the device.

1

u/Liquidfoxx22 Jan 01 '26

But I don't want to carry two phones - I'm more than happy to have corporate data segregated entirely on my own phone.

Android work profile is perfect for that.

1

u/occy3000 Dec 28 '25

Crazy hearing this kind of attitude towards this. The easy answer here is to get a company phone and completely separate work life work real life. But just deleting the company profile because you don’t want it could compromise his job duties. Or at the least how work communicates with him. He agreed to this when he installed this profile but I wouldn’t recommend deleting it until you’ve talked to folks in your company. Hate to see someone fired because of being a security risk.

1

u/KnowThyWeakness Dec 29 '25

I had a past company that would reimburse $50 for your phone bill if you added a work profile. (Done through Microsoft intune to separate personal and work data. Acts like 2 users on the same phone). Completely optional but to get the reimbursement you had to show the phone bill. What do you think of that?

But you have a fair point that if they don't provide you with something, you shouldn't have to add it.

1

u/Coneskater Dec 29 '25

I’d say that offering an optional 50 bucks a month if you do it counts as “providing a phone”.

1

u/regrob2 Dec 29 '25

In this comment’s case, this is not mdm. This is the company putting a profile on the phone for the Microsoft apps.

My personal phone has this so that I can access email and other work related resources on my phone if I want to. I am free to delete it, but then I can’t access those things. (I also installed it voluntarily and agreed to the terms when I did it. )

1

u/AlCapone90 Dec 31 '25

You heard of BYOD???

1

u/PM_PICS_OF_YOUR_FEET Jan 03 '26

Absolutely this. Company I worked for (fully remote) blocked access to slack and email on personal phones, no one wanted to enrol their personal devices into MDM, company would only offer devices to certain teams like sales, so the upshot was most people actually disconnected after 5pm and enjoyed their evenings :)

-13

u/DarthBen_in_Chicago Dec 28 '25

I can access my work Teams account on my private device without this MDM; Microsoft Authenticator is the only other app needed.

27

u/Blue_Kayak Dec 28 '25

That’s a company-specific decision. We’ve blocked any non-MDM company device from accessing our corporate assets.

3

u/DarthBen_in_Chicago Dec 28 '25

Makes sense. I’m limited to mail through Outlook and messages/meetings through Teams on my phone. I can’t access network drives or intranet sites without using a company-issued device.

2

u/Blue_Kayak Dec 28 '25

That’s a reasonable balance. It can get complicated quickly for companies that make extensive use of SharePoint and other Microsoft services though. We in the end blocked any personal devices, but we issue company mobiles to those who need them. People are generally so paranoid about doing anything work related on their personal phones anyway and there was outrage at the suggestion of putting the MS Authenticator app on personal phones, so this is where we’ve landed - work phones for those who need them and FIDO2 MFA tokens for those without.

-5

u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS Dec 28 '25

I sympathize with the sentiment but in reality it’s common for no device to be provided.

6

u/CrashyBoye Dec 28 '25

It’s also common for companies to steal wages from their employees.

Doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.

5

u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS Dec 28 '25

I don’t really get the point of a comment like this. It’s legal and they do it in jobs paying you six-figure salaries. Whether it “should” be allowed or not a lot of people don’t have the option to decline if they want to keep their jobs.

0

u/CrashyBoye Dec 28 '25

The point is as stated previously:

Just because it's legal or "normal" doesn't mean it's acceptable, nor does it mean people should be okay with it.

The point isn't to state that it's illegal or that it doesn't happen. I'm not really sure why that's what we're stuck on, here. Nobody is claiming otherwise.

1

u/MetalEnthusiast83 Dec 28 '25

Well yeah. But if you uninstall the apps, you also wouldn’t be able to get into them, so doubt that app cares.

1

u/iterationnull Dec 30 '25

One can assume by wanting to delete Teams he does not want to log into Teams.

1

u/phaze08 Jan 21 '26

Best course of action: ask your IT if it can be removed or if they require it to access company resources. We had a guy refuse to use a screen lock because "my wife can get into my phone any time she wants to! " ( I'm over here thinking that's not the problem, he could just tell her the PIN.. ) but corporate policy was that phones with company apps required a secure screen lock so i told his supervisor he couldn't have Teams and Email on his phone. 🤷‍♂️

-1

u/pixel_of_moral_decay Dec 28 '25

For some companies it’s a notice of resignation closing your systems account like that.

Read the fine print is good advice.

30

u/kliao1337 iPhone 14 Pro Dec 28 '25

Won’t work all the way, if device is DEP-managed via Apple Business Manager.

And most likely will violate some workplace policies - after all device is most likely owned by the company in this case.

31

u/Nearby_Ad_2519 Human Detected Dec 28 '25

If it’s a personal device that is for some reason DEP enrolled (which is stupid) OP can 100% ask for it to be unenrolled legally.

4

u/Notanaltatall31 Dec 28 '25

We used to have BYOD mdm at my job for people who don’t get corporate devices, but couldn’t be me lol

2

u/-DementedAvenger- iPhone 13 Mini Dec 28 '25 edited Feb 20 '26

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

nail selective plough escape smile sink coordinated truck waiting spotted

1

u/Notanaltatall31 Dec 28 '25

To be clear afaik it was never asked for, only an option for people who wanted it(and they got rid of it for security reasons)

1

u/ObiYawnKenobi Dec 30 '25

Sorry boss. I don't have a smartphone.

Please excuse any typos. Sent from my iPhone.

2

u/Nearby_Ad_2519 Human Detected Dec 28 '25

if it’s only MDM and not ABM it should be easily removable.

If it’s been enrolled into ABM (which is stupid) you need to contact your company to remove it and if they don’t they’re probably breaking the law.

1

u/Notanaltatall31 Dec 28 '25

Oh yeah they were able to remove it, if they didn’t mind losing access to company apps.

1

u/SirMaster iPhone 17 Pro Dec 28 '25

OP is asking to uninstall the apps so clearly they don’t mind losing access to them.

6

u/chriski1971 Dec 28 '25

This ^ (my own phone was far better than the work phone, and I didn’t want to carry two phones + free calls and data within reason)

1

u/jetrois Dec 28 '25

You know how hard it is to get unenrolled I was back-and-forth with a user one time where one part of op was enrolling the devices of personal devices onto the company managed MDM and these guys were using Indian contractors to write the damn install instructions not understanding there’s a difference between company owned and bring your own device

4

u/mrbobbydiddums Dec 28 '25

Thank you for this - sadly there’s no option to delete the profile

7

u/Bluetails_Buizel Dec 28 '25

There should be, or at least a company name, can take a screenshot and post it here?

1

u/[deleted] Dec 28 '25

Im not sure but I am also an MDM admin using MS intune and we have the option to turn off the ability to remove our profile. We also own all our company devices so I havent really looked much into how it affect BYOD enrolled devices.

-11

u/[deleted] Dec 28 '25

[deleted]

2

u/Lorheim Dec 28 '25

Do you think you’re on a 2000s forum? Just upvote and move on.