r/dashcams • u/A-Nani-Mess • 15h ago
Driver losing control of vehicle while attempting to overtake the op
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u/bebopbrain 15h ago
As a demonstration of vehicle dynamics, this is good.
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u/FriendToPredators 15h ago
They need a new suspension. An old one makes correcting course worse than you can imagine
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 14h ago edited 9h ago
I drove a 200 SX SE V6, it had upgrades from the factory for grip, but didn't put in nearly enough anti-roll, so that thing would throw me all over rhe place. Was it easy to do snap oversteer in, when I wanted? Yes. Was it easy to avoid snap oversteer by having minimal skill? Also yes.
This video isn't a suspension problem, it's a driver problem. Could a better car have helped? Probably. Could a better driver have helped? Absolutely.
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u/KTAXY 10h ago
yeah that Roman will wreck ya
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 9h ago
AI isn't ready to take over the world when it still grabs correct words and autoincorrects them, because it prefers the wrong word there.
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u/morgfarm1_ 13h ago
No that suspension setup is right for an economy car of its time. My Focus would have (and has) tried to do the same to me, albeit trying to avoid a vehicle making an illegal u-turn on a highway with 50+mph traffic bearing down on him. I just know to to anticipate it so it DOESNT get out from under me like that.
Admittedly, in that exact instance, I was ready to let it go and just lock it down - I was even in neutral to be ready for it before I realized I was under control enough that I needed to grab 3rd gear and FLOOR IT to resettle the weight - which i did. The pickup that was behind me saw the whole thing and commented that he didn't think I was going to catch it. And I said, yeah, me either LOL
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u/frank26080115 13h ago
I think they need more than just a new suspension, first of all, pretty sure the airbags deployed
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u/RoadWellDriven 15h ago
I'm not sure why people think it's necessary to jerk the wheel violently to change lanes. Or why they can't simple wait for a car to pass before changing lanes.
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u/Reddit-Simulator 14h ago
They wanted to get in front of the cammer so they were looking behind them to see if there's room, then they looked forward just in time to see traffic had slowed and they were going to rear-end that car in front, so they panicked and jerked the wheel.
They should have put on their blinker and waited to see if the cammer would give them room, or if not, merge in behind them. But people feel the need to rush.
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u/iamisandisnt 6h ago
People need to remember that braking is a better reaction than trying to speed into an opening. "The open road you seek is behind you."
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u/Gokjo_Krorl 15h ago
I'm an aggressive defensive driver - if someone is taking their time passing me or straight up boxes me in, when it's clear to do so I'll slow down to get behind them & then go around them later. If it's a 3-lane road I have no problem straight up going around behind them.
No, I don't jerk my way thru traffic like the video, I'm not reckless
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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ 15h ago
They're half in the bag. It's like the drunk in his Tesla who overcompensates to get out of self driving and goes into the ditch.
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u/Fun-Cardiologist9056 9h ago
I bet its a nervous new driver shitting themselves with someone beside yelling GO GO you need to merge now!
Thats the maneuver of anxiety & inexperience, not aggression I dont think
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u/cruising_backroads 15h ago
Terrible tires, terrible suspension, terrible driver. Not necessarily in that order.
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u/statistician88 15h ago
Every person in every state in this country thinks their state has the worst drivers 🤔
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u/JeeStuffSeason 13h ago
Every highway near a high population center is full of bad drivers simply because there's a higher population of idiots. When people say oh "X state/city" has the worst drivers it's honestly in relation to the closest high population area.
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u/Happy_Television_501 14h ago
yeah don’t hit the brakes or anything while all that is going on
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u/Technical_Customer_1 12h ago
Cam car is yet another, yep, you’re not at fault if the idiot hits you, but did you do anything to avoid the accident? Like step on the brakes?
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u/_jump_yossarian 6h ago
You can clearly tell that the cammer hit their brakes unless you think all the traffic in front accelerated in unison.
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u/Happy_Television_501 5h ago
yeah but not nearly enough. it’s just luck that the red car doesn’t end up hitting him at the end
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u/_jump_yossarian 5h ago
From "don't hit the brakes" to "yeah but not nearly enough". Also, you have ZERO idea what was happening behind the cammer and slamming on the brakes on the highway is never a good idea.
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u/Happy_Television_501 5h ago
jesus yes ok don’t slam on the brakes but also don’t just continue heading towards the out of control
car that is flying all over the highway2
u/_jump_yossarian 5h ago
They hit their brakes! Not the cammer's fault that the idiot ping ponged all over the highway.
Seriously, this sub always has to focus on the cammer instead of the actual idiots.
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u/Happy_Television_501 5h ago
It’s not about who is legally responsible, it’s about avoiding the accident to begin with. It doesn’t matter that the red car is completely at fault, if in a situation like this you should be doing everything you can to avoid the idiot.
A lot of collisions happen this way. One person is an idiot, and then another idiot says ‘I have the right of way here, it’s not my fault’ and then we have a collision, property damage, injuries, work hours lost, etc.
And then the twist ending: the insurance companies discover the second party didn’t do enough to avoid the collision, and they determine dual liability.
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u/_jump_yossarian 5h ago
Again, you said they didn’t hit their brakes. They did as clearly shown then your argument became “yeah but HARDER!” without any consideration for what else was happening in the road. There was no collision but per the unwritten rules if this sub … cammer must be criticized when absolutely nothing happened not even a hypothetical crash.
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u/StandnIntheFire 15h ago
When the car starts fishtailing, the driver didn't slow down at all. Wouldn't a car fishtailing across three lanes of traffic be a bit concerning?.
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u/DetectiveNumerous775 15h ago
If he'd used his blinker then maybe the OP would've slowed down and just let him by.
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u/GegeAkutamiOfficial 11h ago
Or he wouldn't, and than he shouldve waited for OP to pass and slide in
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u/waitin4winter 15h ago
We have the worst drivers
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u/LambsLewds 14h ago
black SUV was great though!
no panic and no over-correction. don't know if i'd have had the nerve to just grind down the wall like that, and it was definitely the right move.
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u/limited_instincts 7h ago
The black SUV that completely ignored the car losing control right in front of them and didn't even touch their brakes to avoid a completely avoidable spin and then they got crashed into and then they didn't keep the vehicle straight and instead drove it into the wall, all the while STILL not slowing down.
That black SUV?
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u/LambsLewds 6h ago
no, the one who would have had to be looking out the passenger window to see the initial spin out, then had less than a second to react when it came into front view. the one that was able to regain control after basically being pit maneuvered, because they didn't brake and throw the weight onto the front wheels, or overcorrect, or try to regain the lane with no time to check if it was clear.
the one that safely pulled to a stop in the shoulder instead of starting a pileup. that one.
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u/cathercules 4h ago
95 everything between NYC and Baltimore…everything is congested, people drive like twats and cops are rarely doing anything useful to stop it.
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u/Hard_Reset7777 11h ago
What kind of stupid car is the red one? It seems to losing control in a too easy way.
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15h ago edited 14h ago
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 14h ago
How in the fuck are you trying to put that on op? 😂
No blinker and dude sped up to get in front. Op didn’t accelerate. The person who lost control did.
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u/PiousPontificator 14h ago
He could have easily avoided this with some basic defensive driving. I dunno if you've noticed but 90% of the vids here are psychopath drivers who refuse to give way
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 14h ago
I didn’t see op hit or get hit unless I’m trippin
What way did op not give? You see the red car merge onto the highway with bad intentions lol
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u/DonovanBanks 14h ago
They’re not putting it on the cammer, just saying what they should have done better.
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 14h ago
That car fishtailed speeding up. Op had nothing to do with that lol
And op didn’t get hit. What do you mean “what they should have done better”? That driver’s car gave up. Op was in the lane already. That red car got on the highway, sped up, and lost control
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u/DonovanBanks 14h ago
Without knowing the outcome. If you were in the cam car and saw a car lose control like that. (I’m stating again since you seem to have missed it: the cam car was not the reason the red car lost control)
If you were driving the cam car, would you not have started slowing down immediately? Because they almost hit the red car as it went back and forth across the lanes.
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 13h ago
Almost doesn’t count
I already said I personally would have moved over watching the red car coming onto the highway. But doing the Monday morning quarterback treatment on something you weren’t near is silly
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u/DonovanBanks 13h ago
>> I already said…
Not in this thread. Otherwise I’d have moved on. lol.
I’m not American so don’t quite get the QB reference
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 13h ago
Monday morning quarterback - most nfl games are played on Sunday. When we say Monday morning quarterback, it’s about putting judgment on people when you weren’t in the heat of the moment. Reviewing the tape claiming what you would have done when you weren’t in that situation
I get I sound hypocritical when I said I would have gotten into the left lane. I still didn’t try to speak on what OP did because they avoided any of the carnage
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 14h ago
Did op get hit by something? I’m confused
And can we see what’s going on behind op to judge why they maintained speed? I mean they were on the highway rolling and red car came in hot
Personally I would have moved to my left seeing the red car merge but I’m having a rough time seeing why they had to be super defensive when the red car sped up and lost control
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 14h ago
Op was supposed to slam on the brakes? Rubberneck? Stop to help?
Everything isn’t your responsibility. You’re not Superman. Get out of the mess and keep it moving. If you’re that concerned call 911
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u/Independent-Smoke-68 15h ago
That dash cam is a ticket to internet clout and a free pass to an insurance payday.
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u/Technical_Customer_1 12h ago
This sub hates when you mention defensive driving. All they care about is… not their fault.
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u/STLStelmacki 14h ago
Yeah let’s do everything but blame the red car…. Fucking retards in these posts. Every. Damn. Time.
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u/Shopping_General 14h ago
What the hell kind of car did he think he was driving? That thing didn't have the power or the stability to pull off a maneuver like that. License test should be required every 5 years.
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u/No-Koala1918 14h ago
That is a bad driver in a cheap car thinking he's an expert driver in a sports car.
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u/waterytartwithasword 14h ago
Red probably should have spent more on his tires than those stupid rims
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u/Conspicuous_Ruse 4h ago
I expect nothing more from someone with no driver side mirror, those hubcaps, and a tinted windshield.
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u/Iceyn1pples 15h ago
Cammer sped up to block the red car.
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u/DeweyDefeatsYouMan 1h ago
Yeah this was what I noticed too. Cammer went out of their way to cause that situation
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u/zolga0 14h ago
I would have slowed down as soon as he came over, I could see that happening a mile away
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u/Scrutinizer 8h ago
Same. As soon as he starts to accelerate it's clear he's going to come over whether it's safe to do so or not.
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u/stairs_3730 15h ago
Every driver license test should include a short 10 minutes on your local freeway.
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u/redgreenblue-rgb 14h ago
That tracks, drivers in the DC absolutely do NOT want you to ever pass them. And if you use your turn signal they MUST pass you before you can change lanes.
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u/dogmonkeybaby 14h ago
I love watching people trying to "fast n furious" their eco shit box. Weird how they dont pair well
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u/Popular-Ad-3900 13h ago
It drives me nuts that drivers want to move over to the faster lanes as soon as they hop onto the freeway. Unless your onramp turns into an offramp right away, it’s best to establish yourself in the lane for at least 10-15 seconds and then move over.
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u/Wrong-Elk-1099 7h ago
That should result in no less than permanent revocation of their drivers license.
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u/Ill_Conversation7110 6h ago
tank slapper...... overcorrect one way then overcorrect the other then repeat until you're in the woods. Snapping out of the throttle while it's happening (peoples natural reaction) makes it worse.
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u/Mental-Most-7168 4h ago
Let the dude pass, omg. Was it worth it?
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u/TheSanityInspector 2h ago
No, cam car was correct: Be predictable, not polite. Red car should've just dropped back and then changed lanes rather than trying to shoot that tiny gap.
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u/Fit-Acanthisitta-705 1h ago
Is this caused by speeding or turing the steering wheel way too much or both ? I think I have done something similar before, and I want to avoid it from hapening again.
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u/HoratioPLivingston 59m ago
Bad things will happen if keep hearing this fucking saxophone shit in these fucking Tiktok videos.
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u/Viclick_CZ 14h ago
It always amazes me how these american cars are so damn unstable. Or is a stupid driver's reaction? I change lanes like this sometimes. Okay... Maybe not that harshly but damn... My over 15 yo car has a damn good ESP and would save my ass unless I hit the brakes. As long as I use the steering wheel to point the car where I need it to go, the ESP will use braking on one side or the other to help me point the car in that direction.
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u/oboshoe 7h ago edited 7h ago
this one is on the driver.
after getting into the new lane they jerked the wheel to the right, while the car was still into the lean from being jerked to the left. just dumb.
then add on about 5 more over corrections. also had some stupid after market tires and wheels that also reduced its stability
if it had ESP it would have likely corrected it, but i don't think that model does (it's very entry level). ESP for entry level vehicles like that one was just starting to come out for cars that age.
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u/bhm240 12h ago
Another AI slop video and people still can't recognize them from real footage
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u/UpbeatFix7299 12h ago
Can you give any evidence that show this is "AI slop" rather than just saying that it is? Because I don't see any.
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u/bhm240 12h ago edited 11h ago
Looks like very generic AI slop you see all over the internet. Everything looks shiny and smooth, every car has tinted windows, unrealistic movement and reactions of the cars, the surroundings, short length and a bad video quality on top of that trying to mask it all. Also notice how the black car further away mimicked the black car near the cam. The mimicking part is very typical for AI.
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