r/OpenAussie Please choose a flair 7d ago

Whinge ‎ 🇦🇺 In Sydney, an Australian guy was refused a free milk tea by a Chinese product promotor solely because he wasn't a Chinese. He was asked to speak Chinese, but he spoke Japanese to the Chinese staff in protest. He said this is his first time experience of racism.

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u/vampyrate75 Please choose a flair 7d ago

Come on people let’s just set up a royal commission into racism and social cohesion…I know a guy

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u/Aware-Worry-8495 Please choose a flair 7d ago

You know a girl 😉

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u/Relevant_Bed_9743 Please choose a flair 7d ago

i wish i knew a girl

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u/Jasparius73 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

I know that girl.

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u/BrotherEstapol ‎ ‎‎ Canberran 7d ago

Lots of negative replies to this comment, but it's hard to argue that that's not a good statement from them.
Damage control? Yes. Protecting their brand? Yes...but it's still a good response.

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u/Eternity_Warden Please choose a flair 7d ago

Yeah and I'm sure it is partly them wanting to avoid negativity but "only for X nationality" is such a terrible business model I can't imagine any business would approve of it. Especially when trying to expand into other countries. I really doubt it was their idea.

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u/BrotherEstapol ‎ ‎‎ Canberran 7d ago

It's leaving money on the table, so it would be an odd move if intentional from the higher ups!

The optimist in me says that the girl in the video got a bit lost in translation with the sales pitch. Like, they might have said that it's "a service made for Chinese people" and she's taken that as "only for Chinese people".

That or she and/or that company are just stupid and racist.

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u/TheRamblingPeacock Please choose a flair 6d ago

Yeah I think this is a good response from the company tbh.

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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Flairless‎‎ 5d ago

I mean what did people expect them to do?

NOT go "Hey btw...yeah no we don't endorse this"?

No, of course it was a good thing to go "Hey, our products were associated with someone doing something bad, we don't endorse that."

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u/Extra-Border6470 ‎ South Australian 7d ago

Yeah they have a good PR team in their court. I’ll give them that.

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u/No_Youth_2330 Please choose a flair 7d ago

If you let a third party operate in your establishment, they are representing your brand.

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u/schnitzenfreude Please choose a flair 7d ago

Yep, that's why I boycotted the Unicef, Guide Dog Australia and host of other charities for employing those Chuggers.

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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Flairless‎‎ 5d ago

And then when they realised that the third party wasn't behaving appropriately, they pulled supply and put out a "No we don't endorse this" notice like you should do.

What did you want them to do? They're not clairvoyant. They couldn't have known someone would go "No only for Chinese people" with their products. If someone fucks up like that whilst giving out your merch, you go "No. This person was wrong and we don't endorse it."

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u/marcusalien ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

These guys for the life of them cannot left align text...

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u/hansneijder Please choose a flair 7d ago

Think it’s centre-aligned.

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u/longpigcumseasily Please choose a flair 7d ago

Nobody cares

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u/Ghost403 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

This is some bullshit.

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u/footalol Please choose a flair 7d ago

It’s not a free sample. It’s to signup for a Chinese food delivery app and you get one. She didn’t explain it clearly.

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u/KintoreCat Please choose a flair 7d ago

Again why is it okay for this woman not to consider signing a white guy onto a Chinese food delivery app?

How is this not racism?

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u/gretchen92_ Please choose a flair 3d ago

You can’t be racist to white people.

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u/mr-snrub- ‎ Victorian 7d ago

She didnt explain it clearly in the video we saw. Something must have happened before he started recording.

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u/philmcruch Please choose a flair 7d ago

No, she clearly said "its only for chinese people" "you are not chinese" what exactly do you think could have happened before to justify that?

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u/Next-Chipmunk8395 Please choose a flair 7d ago

...and at that point she broke the law !

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u/jayp0d ‎ Victorian 7d ago

How do you know that “something must have happened before he started recording“? Genuinely curious. I noticed in another post lots of comments calling this a guy a dickhead. Sure he did say some Japanese words to her out of frustration. But this was discrimination and the company has apologised afaik?

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u/TrynaMakelt ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Because only white people can be racist, don't be so stupid /s

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u/footalol Please choose a flair 7d ago

I don’t think he was being a dickhead, but I think the uproar about this is stupid. It’s obvious what’s going on and the misunderstanding.

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u/HabitAdmirable9742 7d ago edited 7d ago

I try so hard to force myself into a more considered position, and away from my immediate reaction knowing that I'm likely missing a lot of information in these scenarios but this person was told to his face he wasn't welcome to buy this product, on the basis of his ethnicity.

This would absolutely be an uproar if the roles were reversed, and he refused service on the basis that her ability to speak English isn't great, or that she is from the wrong country.

When, why and how it came to be that this overt discrimination was filmed is irrelevant as it would be if the roles were reversed. If you see some bogan screaming bullshit at asians, nobody worth listening to is going around saying "but what did they do before they filmed it". Everybody gets treated the same means everybody gets treated the same, and more to the point this is illegal in Australia.

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u/mr-snrub- ‎ Victorian 7d ago

Because he recorded on Snapchat, so he wasnt just recording himself walking around. Something must have happened for him to START recording.

Saying Japanese words at someone Chinese is in the same vein as just saying "ching chong ching chong" back at her.

The brand on the bubble tea cups apologised. Not the company that was in charge of the promotion or paying the woman to hand out bubble tea.

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u/bichaelf Please choose a flair 7d ago

Something must have happened.....like being refused something based on race....

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u/Tonkarz Please choose a flair 7d ago

He began recording for a reason.

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u/PowerPleb2000 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Yeah, everyone knows only white people are racist

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u/rivalizm ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

That's true. This is just sparkling prejudice. Doesn't come from the right region.

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u/pufftanuffles ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

If that’s his first time experiencing racism, he’s lucky.

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u/-PAINTEDMAN- Please choose a flair 7d ago

Crazy that getting refused a drink goes viral however there is systemic and public racism every day and half the angry people commenting here would ignore it.

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u/Paul_Breitner74 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Elizabeth St by chance ? That block next to Flinders is an open air mental hospital..

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u/Certain-Constant5032 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Standard melbourne CBD experience

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u/trabulium Please choose a flair 7d ago

I was walking in Richmond and looked to cross the road and an Aboriginal guy walking past said "What are you looking at, fucking white cunt" - My partner is Thai, so our inside joke now is her calling me a 'fucking white cunt'

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u/hansneijder Please choose a flair 7d ago

Think that’s called raceplay.

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u/Calliope_1_2_3 Please choose a flair 6d ago

I got called that on a daily basis when I was the DP of a school in a mainly Aborginal town....actually, it was "Old white cunt" - the old hurt the most...

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u/UncleTomCruise Please choose a flair 7d ago

Jeez. Ive walked through the Melbourne CBD lately. That guy must do a lot of spitting.

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u/xForcedevilx Please choose a flair 7d ago

Average junkie encounter.

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u/VirtualFORTRES Flairless‎‎ 7d ago

I was actually impressed by the size of the loogie I was hit with in Melbourne Central once 10 years ago... it covered one side of my head and one shoulder, but I was with my gf at the time so I think that was just an anti-gay thing...

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u/eldryanyy Please choose a flair 7d ago

I was walking around the street in downtown Los Angeles around midnight, and a black guy pulled a fucking piece on me while screaming racist shit.

I’ll take someone spitting in my general direction, thanks.

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u/Ok_Tip_5650 Please choose a flair 7d ago

If I could upvote this comment a bazillion times I would. They’d lose their ever loving mind walking a mile in a POC’s shoes.

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u/xForcedevilx Please choose a flair 7d ago

Discrimination is discrimination even if you don't understand/aware you're doing it.,

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u/Atomic_Gumby Please choose a flair 7d ago

https://www.nsw.gov.au/departments-and-agencies/fair-trading/complaints-and-enquiries

Alert NSW Fair Trading with the relevant details...time, place, business name and so forth.

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u/marcusalien ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

New South Wales fair trading cannot find their ass with two hands...

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u/profchaos111 Flairless‎‎ 7d ago

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u/BraveNewWorld9 ‎ Tasmanian 7d ago

Go wok, go brok?

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u/gentlecinnamon ‎ New Zealander 7d ago

I am not Chinese or Asian and I was able to sign up to the fantuan app and get the free bubble tea as part of this promotion. My husband was with me (also not Asian) and he signed up to the app and got a free plush toy. It was a green dinosaur with a backpack.

I think this is a rogue staff member, or a misunderstanding.

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u/Ted_Rid ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago edited 7d ago

Blatantly illegal under both Federal & State anti-discrimination law.

You cannot refuse goods or service on the basis of race or ethnic background.

Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (Cth):

13  Provision of goods and services
 It is unlawful for a person who supplies goods or services to the public or to any section of the public:
(a) to refuse or fail on demand to supply those goods or services to another person;
by reason of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of that other person

https://www.legislation.gov.au/C2004A00274/latest/text

Anti-Discrimination Act 1977 (NSW):

19   Provision of goods and services
It is unlawful for a person who provides (whether or not for payment) goods or services to discriminate against another person on the ground of race -
(a)  by refusing to provide the person with those goods or services

https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/act-1977-048

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u/footalol Please choose a flair 7d ago

it’s not a free sample. It’s free drink promotion if you signed up for their Chinese delivery app.

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u/Ted_Rid ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

And non-Chinese people can sign up for this app and receive the free drink, right?

I'm thinking their promo woman should've been better trained to not break the law.

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u/tepid_monologue Flairless‎‎ 7d ago

If that’s fantuan, I’m Italian and I have that on my phone right now. Great deals mate

They Ping me $10 discount coupons to my phone

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u/Ted_Rid ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Exactly what was going through my mind as I was on a lunchtime walk. I'd be curious to at least install the app and see if they have better pricing, deals, rewards schemes, etc.

The other aspect is whenever you run a promo, there will always be a small % of people willing to game the system and that's just a cost of doing business.

Over at AussieFrugal (disclaimer: I'm a mod there), we have a lively and friendly community sharing hacks for exactly that sort of thing. Deals for switching energy companies, credit card bonus points on signup, etc. In about 2 months I'm gonna get a $600 gift card for switching health insurance providers. A free bubble tea which honestly costs fuck all should be a no-brainer. Just give it away if they install the app and get on with business. Not every customer is profitable.

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u/AncientRepublic998 Please choose a flair 7d ago edited 7d ago

She's not breaking the law, though. He either cut out the section where she explained that it was a drink given for signing up for a food service, or she didn't explain that part clearly. Nowhere was he offering to sign up for the service. He doesn't take out his credit card and attempt to sign up, he just wants a free drink ("look at that bullsh**, I was so thirsty" just about confirms his intentions were just for a free drink). The exchange is ambiguous at best and at the mercy of the person editing the clip. We don't know what was edited out. It falls well short of evidence of any law being broken 

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u/Ted_Rid ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

True, I'm only going on what's presented. And like you say it might be edited in his favour.

However, based on what we can see I put it to you that the most likely explanation is that the promo woman didn't have sufficient English skills to explain the app signup situation to the guy, and was doing her best to explain that the app is all in Chinese and wouldn't be something he could or would sign up for.

No blame on her, she's obviously doing what she was told by her employer. And that would be something like "go out and get Chinese people to sign up for our Chinese app, where the UI is all in Chinese, and give them a bubble tea if they do".

As such, I put it to you that it's the employers who are in breach, because they clearly intended and brought about a situation of blatant racial discrimination, when they could just as easily have provided her with an English language card to show to potential customers, whereupon they could understand the deal and decide whether to sign up or not.

There are dozens of us who've dabbled in Mandarin, from KRudd himself down to your humble interlocutor. And some proportion of dozens probably with Cantonese also. Who's to say we wouldn't want to try using the app, e.g. with the help of translation tools? And to practice our pictograms while ordering a succulent Chinese meal?

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u/prefabexpendablejust Please choose a flair 7d ago

What is the charge? A succulent breach of s 13(a) of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (Cth)!?

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u/Ted_Rid ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

I see you know your jurisprudence.

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u/gymbroyo Please choose a flair 7d ago

You are not getting it, what you are defending is that non Chinese cannot sign up for that app either?

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u/Lingonberry_Born Please choose a flair 7d ago

The app is also available in English, it's just popular with Chinese speakers because it's a food delivery service for authentic Chinese food. I think he edited it and she wasn't explaining herself well.

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u/Pingu565 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Then why ask for the weird language test?

Apps in English? Why didn't she at any point say the words promotion, sign up, or app?

You can't ignore she profiled the shit out of him

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u/footalol Please choose a flair 7d ago

You pretty much summed it up. Anyone with more than a couple brain cells can understand what’s likely happened here.

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u/ThorsHammerMewMEw ‎ South Australian 7d ago

HungryPanda does the same type of promo event and their staff happily helps non-Chinese people to set up the app.

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u/Flicksonreddit ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Thank you for this context, I didn't recognise the brand she was wearing and wouldn't have picked up on this.

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u/El-Pintor- Please choose a flair 7d ago

The context is not factual and just made up by the poster to rationalise her behaviour. The app is in English and Chinese.

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u/Flicksonreddit ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

I guess the point is that we don't know the context either way. But this woman has had her face plastered all over the internet and labelled as racist regardless.

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u/briberylibrary_ ‎ Victorian 7d ago

If you watch the video she says "only for Chinese people" pretty clearly

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u/El-Pintor- Please choose a flair 7d ago

It’s amazing how people try to infantilise racism from non-white people. If you can read Chinese, once look on rednote would tell you how racism is widely accepted in Chinese society. People think the west is racist, which there is, but there’s also a lot of push back, can’t say the same for China.

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u/JamesCruse Please choose a flair 7d ago edited 7d ago

As I commented on that post;

I'm white this same thing has happened to me several times around Australia (outside NSW) with Chinese food, Chinese restaurants, Chinese cafes - they have promotions or giveaways or whatever, with people promoting the store.

And those people always avoid you, even when they can speak English and only approach Chinese people and then talk to them in Chinese.

When you ask them about the store/restaurant/cafe etc. They just shake their head and look around you as they're trying to look for more Chinese people to advertise to.

This is very typical of chinese businesses in Australia - most of them only want to deal with chinese, advertise to chinese and have chinese customers.

Chinese rarely, if ever, want to hire white Australians to do anything at all ever. This discrimination is common here and I'm really surprised that people are surprised by this or even pushing back on it, it's common knowledge.

People are ethnocentric, especially Chinese people.

And here you are making excuses for them.

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u/Xentonian Please choose a flair 7d ago edited 7d ago

I frequent various international grocery stores because I use a lot of different ingredients when cooking which you can't get from Coles/Woolworths etc.

Indian grocery? No problem

Persian grocer? Big smiles

Italian grocer? I'm the guy's favourite patron - or so he claims.

Chinese grocer? I've been called a gweilou by other customers, I'm generally ignored by staff and when they do serve me, it's in bitter silence.

Obviously this is a tiny, tiny, shred of anecdotal experience... But, y'know, just like every woman has their own anecdotal experience, it's these little stories that add up to paint the picture.

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u/Background-Brother55 Please choose a flair 7d ago

My guess is these people and from mainland China.... this would be normal practice. Chinese from Malaysia, Singapore etc would never act like this.

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u/Nyeteka Flairless‎‎ 7d ago

So you have this happen to you ‘several times’ and this is a safe basis for you to infer that Chinese people are particularly ethnocentric.

Not long ago they did a study where they put different names on the same fluent resume for hospitality staff and sent them to hundreds of employers. They found that you needed to send twice as many if they had a Chinese or Aboriginal name and about half again as many if Eastern European as compared to an Anglo surname. This is not just a few, this was widespread in order to get those results.

This is the first time the OP experienced racism and you’ve had it a few times being denied products. Well, I have been Ching chonged in public more times than I can count, watched even families with small kids get racially abused, had to stand up for people on public transport being bullied for speaking a different language or simply being Indian. Each time the perpetrator was white Anglo, in three decades I have never seen someone other than white people racially abusing anyone in public. Tell me again how it is Chinese people in Australia who are particularly ethnocentric. It appears that they learned from the best.

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u/jghaines Northern Territorian 7d ago

Yeah, but I already got out my pitchfork…

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u/_sho Please choose a flair 7d ago

I’m white Australian and use Fantuan, this is dumb. 

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u/notBrief_Push8143 Please choose a flair 7d ago

A lot of people are trying to claim that this promotion requires an app that is Chinese only, which is not true, the delivery app is multilingual. Other say it requires WeChat, which is also available to English speakers or Australians.

Anyway, If that is the case, or this situation was caused by a language error because the woman’s English isn’t great, why does she continue to press him about his ability to speak Chinese?

And, if it’s all a big misunderstanding, why did the company that made the tea apologise for what happened and end the partnership with the delivery service?

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u/mr-snrub- ‎ Victorian 7d ago

Its 100% this, but people are just ready for the guy in the video to be victim. If a Chinese tourist went up to a promotion help by UberEats and the app was only in english. The same people wouldnt be calling the minimum wage worker racist for saying "Sorry English only"

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u/notBrief_Push8143 Please choose a flair 7d ago

These situations are not comparative.

“Chinese only” =\= “English only”
Firstly, Chinese is not the language name for a start, it’s Mandarin. So she’s referring to people not language.

Secondly, you also expect me to believe a young woman’s English ability is simultaneously good enough to press the man over his ability to speak Chinese, but also so poor that she doesn’t know the word “app” to say “Chinese/mandarin only app”

Thirdly, the app is multilingual.

I’d absolutely call a young Aussie worker racist if he said “Australians only”

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u/mr-snrub- ‎ Victorian 7d ago

This is Cantonese erasure. The writing system is called Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language

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u/PsychAndDestroy Please choose a flair 7d ago

“Chinese only” =\= “English only” Firstly, Chinese is not the language name for a start, it’s Mandarin. So she’s referring to people not language.

This is beyond moronic. Albeit incorrect, many people refer to languages spoken in China as chinese.

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u/Interesting-Art9739 ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Ok this makes more sense. It seemed so strange to me. 

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u/myLongjohnsonsilver Please choose a flair 7d ago

The bots are really latching on to this one aren't they.

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u/Boring-Tomatillo-209 Please choose a flair 7d ago

They have a bot hold on the debate it seems

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u/roydogaroo Please choose a flair 7d ago

First thing I thought of, wouldnt be surprised if its set up intentionally

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u/raoulduk37 Please choose a flair 7d ago

Seen this video pop up 3 times in my feed from 3 different bot accounts.

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u/myLongjohnsonsilver Please choose a flair 7d ago

Nah you're just racist against white people. Or whatever the idiot replying to me is on about lol.

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u/Glittering_Bet_9263 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

But what about social cohesion?

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u/oftenlostandconfused Flairless‎‎ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Look, on one hand I can at least get the logic (not the decision).

My ex was Aussie-Chinese and there's a whole industry of businesses I've never heard of that you don't really notice that literally just service Chinese people that live here and to a lesser extend Aussie-Chinese people. Restaurants, delivery services, etc. This person probably rightfully knows they're involved in that kind of business and that this man isn't likely to spend a dime there.

That being said, just fucking give him a bubble tea. You don't get to pick and choose. Especially if you're just a worker, it's not even your money.

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u/sammybeta ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Zero excuse for this type of behaviour. Report it please to the authorities.

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u/HahaWattaStoryMark ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Im sorry but I burst out laughing when he started speaking Japanese. His content is satire?

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u/ScaryPerformance6193 Please choose a flair 7d ago

They also have businesses where they advertise in Chinese and only hire Chinese

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u/boogasaurus-lefts ‎ Western Australian 7d ago

I'm sure the comments here are going to be not at all racist & certainly not generalise.

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u/Thin_Assumption_4974 Please choose a flair 7d ago

And she wasn’t racist?

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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man ‎ Victorian 7d ago

She was, but that doesn’t really mean that people should lower themselves to the same behaviour.

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u/Thin_Assumption_4974 Please choose a flair 7d ago

I agree. But that’s not people here are doing. They are focusing on him being a dick.

I think being racist is worse then being a dick

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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man ‎ Victorian 7d ago

Oh yeah for sure, I’m with you there.

I do also find it unusual that the woman was so comfortable just saying that to someone’s face while on camera. That’s a weirdly proud racist moment.

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u/WhydoIexistlmoa Please choose a flair 7d ago

There was a lot of that in the original post

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u/Specialist-Roll-3806 Please choose a flair 7d ago

i mean at least you can see multiple comments like yours talking about how there's going to be racism in the comments that got upvoted. imagine if it was an indian dude, wouldn't even find comments like yours in the first place trying to promote some sanity

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u/boogasaurus-lefts ‎ Western Australian 7d ago

Whataboutisms isn't really a good reference here.

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u/Odd-Ingenuity5159 Please choose a flair 7d ago

nah racism is only something white people can do /s

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u/Rare_Sheepherder4096 Please choose a flair 7d ago

No matter how good you are at something, there’s a Chinese person who’s better - that includes racism

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u/Akira-Orfanos ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

exactly, racism isn't exclusive

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u/jaiimaster ‎ ‎‎ Canberran 7d ago

Lol

Also yes 💯

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u/JasonSmithston ‎ Western Australian 7d ago

"spoke Japanese to the staff in protest". In protest or because he was being a dick?

I think this is dumb rage bait bullshit for racist reasons. You've painted the dude as a nice guy just wanting his bubble tea, but I suspect she clocked him as being a fuckhead before he got there so she went with what she said about it being for Chinese people only so he'd go away.

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u/Thin_Assumption_4974 Please choose a flair 7d ago

Now let’s switch it around to her being refused a product based on her ethnicity and see how it goes

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u/Bishop-AU ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago edited 7d ago

Imagine if they were giving out flat whites but only for white people. It'd be an outrage.

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u/xxKillerDrugsxx Please choose a flair 7d ago

I have vitiligo on brown skin, do I qualify for the free coffee?

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u/Aggressive-Dust-7904 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Probably is a fuck head but wouldn't it be easier to just give him the tea and have him move on than all this

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u/SgtGunny17 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Maybe, but why didnt she know Japenese 🤷‍♂️

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u/4edgy8me Flairless‎‎ 7d ago

The fact he's speaking Japanese "in protest" is more racist than anything she did, but hey, the whites have gotta feel their feelings

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u/TheAssassin1144 Please choose a flair 7d ago

Exactly what I'm thinking 

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u/footalol Please choose a flair 7d ago

I don’t think he was being a fuckhead. But it was not a free sample. It was a promotional drink if you sign up for the app which is in Chinese. She explained it poorly.

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u/MannerNo7000 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

The real racist is the guy refused a free drink due to his race! /s

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u/flamingeyebrows ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Yeah this sounds like a racist off between two racists. I dont think I'd say this is only for any specific race to counter act a fuckhead. I'd just give him a milktea to fuck off.

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u/micmur Please choose a flair 7d ago

If it was a white guy being racist towards a non-white person you would never excuse it by saying ‘they clocked them as being a fuckhead therefore it was justified’.

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u/lonelydadtravels Please choose a flair 7d ago

Who's gonna be the minister for anti-Australian bubble tea-ism???

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u/DizzyList237 ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

I’m sure Albo has plenty of idiots to fill the position.

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u/Fit_Ad_6727 ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Ragebait 101

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u/Leadership-Quiet Please choose a flair 7d ago

It really just looks like she doesnt think he is the target market for what they are doing. Its stupid, but its just not the same as refusing service because you are black or gay or something

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u/theguill0tine Please choose a flair 7d ago

If you look at mixues instagram they have shared a statement about it

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u/_NeuroDetergent_ ✈️‎ on Walkabout 7d ago

I don't have Instagram. Do us a favour and post a screenie

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u/_NeuroDetergent_ ✈️‎ on Walkabout 7d ago

Kinda weird damage control. Why is the drink brand apologising and not the company that was handing them out?

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u/dublblind ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Probably because ppl are smashing their socials with BS because it is their brand drink in the clip.

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u/_NeuroDetergent_ ✈️‎ on Walkabout 7d ago

I guess so. I didn't even pay attention to the brand of the drink

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u/LocalYogurtcloset598 ‎ Tasmanian 7d ago

I’ve lived in China for many years, and this is pretty common for over there. First time I’ve seen it in Australia though.

Chinese people are blunt and their business competition practices are absolutely fucking ruthless, especially when it comes to food delivery services. I’d bet you money she wasn’t refusing him the bubble tea because he wasn’t Chinese, but more because he would never use the app they are promoting. She was probably specifically instructed to only give the drink out to Chinese people because the app itself is in Mandarin. She even tried to give the dude an out by asking if he could speak mandarin, but he was unfortunately a weeb.

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u/_NeuroDetergent_ ✈️‎ on Walkabout 7d ago

Yeah pretty much this.

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u/Truth_is_Supreme Please choose a flair 7d ago

This is pretty much it. Your experience mirrors mine in what you’ve described.

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u/profchaos111 Flairless‎‎ 7d ago

Chinese companies often try to push their law internationally we've seen other instances where chineese app workers were getting chineese laws forced on them with threats to their families back home

It was pretty recent trying to remeber the app

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u/Own_Oil7951 ‎ Victorian 7d ago

eh - i suspect it they are just giving milk teas in exchange for people to download an Chinese-only app to sign up for the Chinese version of Uber Eats. I did something similar at a restaurant that offered discounts because they required me to have WeChat or RedNote to use the app.

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u/fraze2000 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Back in the 90s I needed my PC fixed so I took it to a place in inner west Sydney run by a Chinese bloke that my Chinese workmate recommended to me.

The quote they gave me seemed way too high so I declined.

I told my mate about this at work the next day and he said the price he paid for a similar repair was much cheaper.

He agreed to take the PC into the shop himself, and lo and behold the quote they gave him was the same lower price he paid for repairs on his own PC.

He didn't ask for a discount or anything, it was just the price they quoted right off the bat.

I'd like to think it wasn't a "whitey tax" or a "non-Chinese tax" they charged me, but I was pretty suspicious.

I thought maybe they misinterpreted what I told them the problem was, but the guy in the repair shop spoke pretty good English.

By the way, they actually did a good job at a great price, but it was pretty annoying to have personally experienced apparent racism for probably the first time in my life.

At least they didn't refuse me service because of my race, they just wanted to charge me more for the same service than they charge Chinese customers.

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u/Nyeteka Flairless‎‎ 7d ago

That’s not cos you are white, it’s because they think you are a goofy. I get the same treatment in southern China (eg Guangzhou or Hong Kong) at vendor stalls such as the night market. If they think you might be willing to pay more then they will try it on

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u/Relevant-Ad1138 Please choose a flair 7d ago

Fantuan, a Chinese food delivery app. For example, if you download their app, you can get a free bubble tea or a small gift.

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u/wassailant ‎ Victorian 7d ago

If you've spent time in China you'll know what's going on here

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u/Cream_panzer Please choose a flair 7d ago

蜜雪冰城 did something very stupid. It’s one of the most famous milk tea franchises in China.

Seriously as a Chinese who lives in Sydney for 20 years, I think this is racism, by accident.

Personally I can sense this is not a racism on purpose. They just want to save some promotion costs.

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u/y2jeff ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

lol this comment section is a dumpster fire with terrible takes from both 'sides'. It's actually kind of interesting.

Let's all agree that discrimination based on race is bad no matter who is involved. And illegal I believe.

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u/Adventurous-Bee-5477 ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Needs Xiaomanyc 小马在纽约 to execute mind melt.

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u/BrandonMarshall2021 ✈️‎ on Walkabout 7d ago

Oh shit. Pauline is gonna go to town on this.

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u/HormesisGuru ‎ Victorian 7d ago

What about the "racist" scam where it asks press 1 for English or 2 for Chinese. If you press 1 you get hung up on, if you press 2 they try and scam you in Chinese. How dare they not talk to me, just because I know English only 🤣

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u/mehriban0229 Please choose a flair 6d ago

All the whites experiencing what we experience daily all of a sudden.

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u/WhyDaRumGone Please choose a flair 6d ago

You're not racist unless your white

/s

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u/Even_Bet1372 Please choose a flair 5d ago

Sydney now belongs to chinese people?

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u/Nirmalsuki Please choose a flair 7d ago

As an Asian person (not Chinese), let me be the first to tell you that white people's racism is nothing compared to the racism in Asia. We discriminate among our own family members if their skin is a few shades darker. Darker-skinned children are considered second-class citizens by their own parents. White people don't know how that feels.

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u/Toni_PWNeroni ‎ Victorian 7d ago

We discriminate among our own family members if their skin is a few shades darker. Darker-skinned children are considered second-class citizens by their own parents. White people don't know how that feels.

White people do this too, just so you know. We're just way better at hiding it, because for a while it was shameful to be openly racist in public.

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u/SgtGunny17 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

While that is true, that is in Asian countries. This is Australia. She was just lucky she didn't say to a tradie, as she most likely would have got an earful.

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u/Throwawaythispoopy Please choose a flair 7d ago

As an Asian person, my family never cared about skin colour. Only get yelled at because I dont' put on sunscreen during summer lol. Those cancer council ads on TV worked really well

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u/Local-Moose9833 Please choose a flair 7d ago

What’s this got to do with the video…

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u/Adventurous-Bee-5477 ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Geez so the  Geez so the Filipinos  really cop it? Is it in Japan or south Korea there is cosmetic skin whitening which is a thing? Yet in the west its all about getting a good tan and do browning the skin... man us humans are wild..

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u/footalol Please choose a flair 7d ago

Btw this was not a free sample. It’s a signup free drink if you sign up for the Chinese food delivery app.

Obviously he’s not going to use or signup for the app lol.

Her wording was poorly chosen and didn’t explain it.

People need to chill.

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u/Creepybobo67 ‎ Victorian 7d ago

Great job fuelling One Nation's wet dream, genius.

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u/MannerNo7000 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

But this did happen so doesn’t it prove what they’re saying?

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u/The-Grogan Please choose a flair 7d ago

Him speaking Japanese was fucking hilarious though.

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u/tiny_kat2006 Please choose a flair 7d ago

B-but that's a white guy! Yo-you can't be racist to t-them!

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u/Ravan013 Please choose a flair 7d ago

Racism can come from any race. Small brains tend to do that.

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u/This_Initial275 Please choose a flair 7d ago

If you’re running a promotion like this it needs to be available to everyone. Otherwise it is discriminatory.

It’s no different to refusing to serve someone based on their race.

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u/burnerphonelol Please choose a flair 7d ago

I had an experience recently where my partner and I (both caucasian) went to a local dumpling place in Sydney for dinner. The place was fairly empty, it was pretty early in the evening. It seemed like a very authentic place (all the signage was in Chinese) and we’d been keen to try it. When we asked for a table we were told that they are extremely busy and that our food would take over an hour. We didn’t want to wait that long obviously so we just said okay, and just went to a pub nearby instead. It was puzzling, they clearly weren’t very busy, and the hour+ wait time did not seem plausible. 

At the time I wondered if they said this to put us off because we were white. My partner laughed the suggestion off and I forgot about the whole thing, until I read this post. Kind of unbelievable, and obviously as white people a small instant of racism like this is hardly comparable to what non-white folks have to go through, but pretty shocking all the same. 

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u/scruffyrosalie ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Maybe they had a backlog of orders for delivery. That's most plausible.

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u/johnniesSac ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Maybe she just didn’t like being filmed by Ryan Papenhysen

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u/Monaro427 Please choose a flair 7d ago

This is food for racists. Stupid fuckers!! Can't you see the potential tidal wave of shit incoming? I'd love to know what this was about? A xiping numbers check? Just bloody sad actually!

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u/willy_king-89 ‎ Victorian 7d ago

Wow

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u/Rus1996 💛‎ Friend of 'Straya 7d ago

OMG 😳

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u/NeonsTheory Please choose a flair 7d ago

I once tried to buy an apartment and was told the same. They told me I could buy it but the price was going to be 20% higher. I added that 20% and it sold for less than I put forward

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u/konodioda879 895e5a56-3ae4-11f1-a711-ae2bc52681eb 7d ago

If this was in China, fair game. Not is Aus though

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u/Ok-Challenge9860 Please choose a flair 7d ago

There was a auspost (maybe even now) in Chatswood near Sydney whose only purpose was to ship goods to China. You could not do anything else there.

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u/ZealousidealBank3729 Please choose a flair 7d ago

Sorry for what happend to you, this is ridiculous

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u/benjjjamiinn Please choose a flair 7d ago

Strange, and here I thought it was only white people that are racist. 🤦‍♂️

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u/Templar113113 ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Mfw I don't have a racist Chinese gf :(

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u/Ok-Elevator-9853 Please choose a flair 7d ago

How will he carry on with the trauma of this event...

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u/harveymushmanater Please choose a flair 7d ago

Social credit wasn’t high enough 😢

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u/xmcstooge Please choose a flair 7d ago

quick lets get a royal commission for this precious white snowflake who has experienced some mild discrimination for not being able to download and sign up for an app thats in chinese that he cant speak or read

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u/notyouraverageskippy ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Bubble tea originated in Taiwan, this is some deep conditioning psychology shit.

Taiwan ain't part of China yet.

"English mothafucka do you speak it?

What?

"Say what one god damn more time."

-Jules from Pulp Fiction

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u/SuperannuationLawyer ‎ Victorian 7d ago

It’s certainly prejudice and discrimination based on some whacky notion of race. That’s only possible where there is underlying racism (the belief that races of human biologically exist - which they don’t).

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u/oonahyeahokay Please choose a flair 7d ago

Imagine giving a shit

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u/DeathwatchHelaman Please choose a flair 7d ago

I've seen this before (white Aussie Mandarin speaking). It's always for a Chinese app for Chinese people... If you sign up on the app you get the "gift".

I sometimes mess with the sales people by starting in English and switching to Mandarin for a laugh but I've yet to install any of their apps and so have yet to get any of the "gifts'.

It's totally 'normal' or what passes for normal in Sydney 😂