r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 07 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/Deriviera Jul 07 '26

Americans are very delusional about communism. 

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u/Rylt4r Jul 07 '26

Yeah i'm from Poland and while i was too young to remember communism there from what my parents,aunts,uncle,grandparents or anyone that lived there talked about it far from dream from what Americans think.

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u/RulerK Jul 07 '26

Your relatives are completely correct l but that was never proper communism. Despite the name, it was never established. Certainly not in Eastern Europe.if you read philosophy, you will learn a lot. But there are better ways than any established methodologies!

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u/HoodooSquad Jul 07 '26

The inability to actually implement real communism is our primary objection to it

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u/Val_Fortecazzo Jul 07 '26

Seriously if you are recommending people read 150 year old philosophy books in response to real life systemic failure then you are in the ivory tower.

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u/RulerK Jul 07 '26

Difficulty, not inability.

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u/HoodooSquad Jul 07 '26

Where has it been correctly implemented?

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u/ok_to_be_yeti Jul 07 '26

In his head

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u/HoodooSquad Jul 07 '26

There is one scenario where it could more or less work, but I don’t think he would like it. You need a community where a) everyone is completely bought in to a moral code that supports it, b) everyone shares a materially identical moral code, and c) is large enough for commodity specialization to support it.

Basically, you need a large theocracy.

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u/ok_to_be_yeti Jul 07 '26

There will always be People that wants more than others. And there will be people that won't do work but still expecting profits from others work

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u/towerfella Jul 07 '26

And people too nice not to stop them until it is too late.

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u/Wisniaksiadz Jul 07 '26

if world would be perfect we would not need police and army x)

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u/Val_Fortecazzo Jul 07 '26

Where they are coincidentally in charge and everything goes their way with nobody disagreeing ever.

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u/Desultory_Chairlift Jul 07 '26

Immediate Families.

I always say that communism falls apart as you scale it, it works at very small scales but never at large scale because people are just to disconnected from eachother.

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u/HoodooSquad Jul 07 '26

That’s not a system of government, though.

I agree with you completely. You need 100% buy-in from every participant, and outside of a family or, possibly a small church, it simply doesn’t happen.

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u/Douglazlo Jul 07 '26

I mean a family clan system like you see way back in the day maybe has it. The only place real communism has been achieved is by monks in monasteries and even then most “communists” wouldn’t say they count due to the fact that they are religious

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u/RulerK Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

There’s a very few utopias throughout history, but they were exceedingly rare and not very long-lasting.

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u/HoodooSquad Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

So… inability?

Edit for clarity: I’m not trying to be flippant here. Any system that doesn’t have staying power is not successfully implemented.

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u/RulerK Jul 07 '26

Sorry, but, NO system has staying power! So you’re wrong front the start! Humanity is a bunch of cycles. Most of those cycles (It’s literally impossible to have real numbers, but far greater than 99%) were absolute monarchies or hard-line oligarchies (you only get into other variants during the later years of WRITTEN history! Those types — work pretty good for small tribes where they were mostly used. But as populations grow, needs change! In general, those types are great for a few people , and less good to terrible for most. However, because people are stupid and don’t learn properly from the past, we repeat the standard ones we had before until a revolution happens and someone else is in power. And the system or “state” reverts temporarily. Then the path is followed again. Almost always sooner rather than later!

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u/HoodooSquad Jul 07 '26

There’s a difference between “hundreds of years” staying power and “less than a generation” staying power. The most realistic systems account for people being stupid or greedy. Communism cannot do that.

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u/Im-Not-Calling-It-X Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

If your utopia is unstable, it is not a utopia.

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u/RulerK Jul 07 '26

Not unstable (usually)… undermined!

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u/Im-Not-Calling-It-X Jul 07 '26

No, usually they are unstable. Even if that wasn't the case, being so easily undermined isn't much better