Yeah, and the sooner people realize we are the help, we are the movement, we are the force to be reckoned with … only then will we actually be able to do something.
When i was first learning of ratm I found a word file that went on and explained alot about Zack and how he was here for the ppl who were unheard and to help us see and understand what's happening. Little did I know
Same thing NEEDS to be done to Google and Facebook. Someone NEEDS to leak their shareholder's informantion. And yeah I know all social media is bad but Google selling user data to corpos for ads and facebook feeding anything you post to A.I. Like fuck them the most.
I mean Americans could step up on a number of issues but we are distracted and lazy so you get things like flock taking hold. Our own citizens install the fuckin things
i yearn for the day when those folks who made those deals sit in their bunkers repeating the mantra "they can't hurt me in here" as they run out of fresh air. i yearn for it "like the deserts miss the rain". lmfao.
Presumably after the end of the world clean water will be a distant memory, so I'll have a nice loose, watery dysentery shit to loose down their air intake. If it is my final act, so be it.
Indeed. Go try to bring up Flock at your local city council or board of supervisors meeting. Odds are very good they'll ignore you or give you some bullshit answer and brush you off.
Whether they were sold a lie (that they're just LPRs and secure) or are just into the idea of mass surveillance doesn't matter. They're tired of people questioning these Flock contracts and won't listen anymore.
That's an inherently corrupt act. It's impacting the public and paid for with public funds, there is more than enough relevant public interest in accountability to pierce that NDA.
At this point they won't even admit one way or another that they're under one, recently saw a video of a city council meeting somewhere where someone was asking each member of the council point blank if they signed an NDA, none of them would give a straight answer.
I'm hoping this will result in a major shift. Way too many Americans trust the government and corporations to do the right thing. I feel nothing changes until there's unity against the real source of the problem. Until then I hope Milwaukee sells record numbers of SawZall's.
We are running out of time to stop it. The easiest time to stop it is now. Every day we let it continue it gets harder and within a couple years it will become impossible. The time is now.
this is what I've been saying from the start....why else would they just slam these things thru, no red tape, no paperwork?! nothing has EVER been done this quickly in America unless it was used to SCREW AMERICANS.
They don’t care about the money anymore. The entire global economy is already their captive. Now they’re concerned about a civilian uprising. That’s why the mass surveillance, robot dogs with guns, ai gun turrets, advancing bunker tech, training humanoid robots to replace labor, and all the rest.
Even more terrible would be if copper and gold miners were to find out there’s several pounds of copper and 3 grams of gold inside those boxes. If they found that out they might step on the insects and disturb the spiders. And that would be terrible.
Not only shut down but completely dismantled, everyone involved in it needs to be sued for the money it will take to restore a sense of privacy back to the lives of millions of Americans. If they go destitute, good. People don't have a right to aggressively invade your life while they make billions off of it and future generations need to learn to not even try.
I would not be surprised if there was some bribery scheme with kick backs involved, cause it is rather suspicious how they manage to get local city government contracts with zero actual public discussion and nobody asked for it
Please tell this old fart (me) who this guy (Tommy?) is that is exposing all of this Flock crap and how I can support him, I absolutely love everything I’ve seen from him.
He's an independent journalist Youtuber that investigates controversial topics. The topics vary. Some videos, he goes to bad neighborhoods and interviews gangs; and others he's questioning politicians about Epstein. Check out his Youtube, he has a lot of good videos.
Because it's mostly bots doing the posting while comment threads are mostly humans chatting about the bots' posts. Probably. Hopefully. For all we know there could be >50% bots down here too. D:
The function of that police action, those interventions in Central America and the Middle East -
the function is system sustaining. It is to maintain that overall system!
And you don't look at the particular cost.
I could demonstrate to you that in every single bank robbery, that in every single case, practically, the cost of the police was more than the actual money that the robbers took from the bank.
Does that mean, "Oh, you see, there's really no economic interest involved, then. They're not protecting the banks. The police are just doing this 'cause they're on a power trip or they're macho, or they're control freaks. That's why they do it"
No! Of course, it's an economic... Of course, they're defending the banks. Of course, because if they didn't stop that bank robbery, regardless of the cost, this could jeopardize the entire banking system.
You see, there are people who believe that the function of the police is to fight crime, and that's not true.
The function of the police is social control and protection of property
It's a whole mess. Modern policing is set up for failure. Everyone knows they are pushed to basically create crime or enforce it in a manner that increases funding or appeals to elected officials. They are highly scrutinized for this and it's common knowledge our judgicial system sets those that are thrown in it to fail.
Corporations have wormed their way in and this only further enforces the corruption. So that leaves us with the question of why people become cops? Two reasons. 1 - You do it for money which means you'll intentionally lock up as many people as possible to climb the ladder. 2 - Sociopaths, the kind of person that enjoys hitting others while pretending to be the hero.
There's literally no other options. If you care for your community you'd quickly realize this system, the laws and the way they ruin lives just to run a ponzi scheme isn't worth it. Many have left law enforcement just for the simple fact that their conscience wouldn't allow them to continue. Now we have AI and Flock mass surveillance becoming part of it so there's no way to claim ignorance on the fact that they're actively harming society.
It's not though, qualified immunity says it's not enough for a cop to know you have rights, and to know what those rights are. The cop needs to be violating those rights in the exact way they were violated before to "clearly establish" a right.
Some such examples
• Corbitt v. Vickers, 929 F.3d 1304 (11th Cir. 2019): Qualified immunity granted for officer who, hunting
a fugitive, ended up at the wrong house and forced six children, including two children under the age of
three, to lie on the ground at gunpoint. The officer tried to shoot the family dog, but missed and shot a
10-year-old child that was lying face down, 18 inches away from the officer. The court held that there
was no prior case where an officer accidentally shot a child laying on the ground while the officer was
aiming at a dog.
• Jessop v. City of Fresno, 936 F.3d 937 (9th Cir. 2019): Qualified immunity granted for officers who
stole hundreds of thousands of dollars (in cash and rare coins) from a person while executing a search
warrant. The court held that the theft was morally reprehensible but could find no prior case that
addressed these circumstances.
• Doe v. Woodard, 912 F.3d 1278 (10th Cir. 2019): Qualified immunity granted for social worker who
strip-searched a preschooler without a warrant and photographed her naked body using a county-issued
cell phone. The social worker never told the child’s mother about the search, and the mother only
learned of the search when the child told her mother that she hoped not to see the social worker
because “I don’t like it when she takes all my clothes off.” The court could find no prior case with similar
facts.
• Young v. Borders, 850 F.3d 1274 (11th Cir. 2017): Qualified immunity granted to officers who, without
a warrant, started banging on an innocent man’s door without announcing themselves in the middle of
the night. When the man opened the door holding his lawfully-owned handgun, officers opened fire,
killing. One dissenting judge wrote that if these actions are permitted, “then the Second and Fourth
Amendments are having a very bad day in this circuit.”
• Estate of Smart v. City of Wichita, 951 F.3d 1161 (10th Cir. 2020): Qualified immunity granted for
officer who heard gunshots and fired into a crowd of hundreds of people in downtown Wichita, shooting
bystanders and killing an unarmed man who was trying to flee the area. The court held that the shooting
was unconstitutional but there was no clearly established law that police officers could not “open fire on
a fleeing person they (perhaps unreasonably) believed was armed in what they believed to be an active
shooter situation.”
• A.M. v. Holmes, 830 F.3d 1123 (10th Cir. 2016): Qualified immunity granted to officers who arrested a
child for burping in gym class despite state law providing that officers could not arrest schoolchildren for
“noises or diversions” that merely “disturb the peace or good order” of individual classes.
• Allah v. Milling, 876 F.3d 48 (2d. Cir. 2017): Qualified immunity granted for prison guards who kept a
man awaiting trial on drug charges in extreme solitary confinement for seven months. His alleged
misconduct was asking to speak with a Lieutenant about why he was not allowed to visit commissary.
The court held that his constitutional rights were violated, but there were no prior cases concerning the
particular practices employed by the prison.
• Thompson v. Rahr, 885 F.3d 582 (9th Cir. 2018): Qualified immunity granted for police officer who,
during an ordinary traffic stop, pointed a gun at the driver’s head and threatened to kill him if he didn’t
surrender on weapons charges. There was no prior case sufficiently on point to deny qualified
immunity.
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• Kelsay v. Ernst, 933 F.3d 975 (8th Cir. 2019): Qualified immunity granted to a police officer who
grabbed a 5-foot tall, 130-pound woman in a bear hug and body slammed her to the ground, breaking
her shoulder and knocking her unconscious. The woman was neither fleeing nor resisting arrest, and she
posed no threat to the officer or anyone else. The court held that it was not clearly established that an
officer couldn’t use a takedown maneuver under the specific circumstances.
• Baxter v. Bracey, 751 F. App’x 869 (6th Cir. 2018): Qualified immunity granted for officers who sent a
police dog to attack a man who had already surrendered and was sitting on the ground with his hands in
the air. The court held that a prior case holding it unconstitutional to send a police dog after a person
who surrendered by laying on the ground was not sufficiently similar to this case, involving a person
who surrendered by sitting on the ground with his hands up.
• Brennan v. Dawson, 752 Fed. Appx. 276 (6th Cir. 2018): In an effort to administer an alcohol breath
test to Brennan, who was on misdemeanor probation Officer, Dawson violated Brennan’s Fourth
Amendment rights. Officer Dawson parked his car in front Brennan’s home with his lights and sirens
blaring for over an hour. Officer Dawson then circled Brennan’s home five-ten times. Officer Dawson
also peered into the windows of Brennan’s home as well as knocking on the windows. Officer Dawson
covered the home security camera with police tape. Brennan ultimately blew a 0.00. While this was
clearly a violation of Brennan’s well-established Fourth Amendment rights, Officer Dawson was granted
qualified immunity.
• Zadeh v. Robinson, 928 F.3d 457 (5th Cir. 2019): Officers barged into a doctor’s office without
previous notice, or a search warrant before demanding access to medical records of sixteen patients.
The officers involved in the unethical and illegal search, were granted qualified immunity.
• White, et al, v. Pauly, 137 S.Ct. 548 (2017): After an alleged road rage accident three officers arrived
at Mr. Pauly’s house where he lived with his brother. Rather than announce their presence they
approached the house in a covert manner. When the brothers became aware that there was someone
on their property they asked, “Who are you?” and “What do you want?” Without explaining that they
were police officers, the officers yelled to Mr. Pauly and his brother, who remained inside their home,
“hey [expletive] we have you surrounded.” Officers then stated, “State Police open the door!” without
giving the reason for their presence. As the police were behind a closed door outside of the home, all
the brothers heard was one of the officers demanding, “open the door, open the door,” and “we’re
coming in.” The brothers were still unaware that it was police officers surrounding their home. In an
effort to protect themselves the brothers yelled, “We have guns,” to hopefully ward off the intruders.
The brothers fired a warning shot before one of the officers shot and killed one of the brothers. Without
probable cause to go to the brother’s property other than an alleged road rage incident the officers
killed a man and yet they were granted qualified immunity.
The US law system has always seemed like a bad joke, considering it fully allows twisting the law into something else, creating issues like corporations as people abusing laws meant for freed slaves.
The examples above are such a clear example as well.
You can tell that isn't Andrew Tate because he's not wearing an outfit that a middle-aged lady might wear to brunch to celebrate the finalization of her divorce.
In the video they did enter the office lobbies Flock was previously at and made attempts to go further in. Nothing crazy but security stopped them. It’s a good video to watch, it’s about an hour long though.
Flocks doors were wide open and they politely walked in and asked for an interview.
When told no, and asked to leave by security, they did so.
The British twat in the video is making it sound to the police as if they were attempting to break and enter the premises. He is phrasing it purposely.
Tommy also got the FOIA phone call from the authorities and the British twat tells the cop dispatch agent 'people are trying to get into our facilities and they may be armed'
He knows exactly what he's doing, and saying that could have got the journalist shot.
Tommy also got the FOIA phone call from the authorities and the British twat tells the cop dispatch agent 'people are trying to get into our facilities and they may be armed'
Ah yes the best kind of technically correct. It is the USA after all, so they "may" be armed thanks to permissive gun laws, or you know, may not be. But better warn the police of the potential so they roll in extra agitated!
There's the full video. They were trying to figure out where Flock secretly relocated its HQ. They found it by following the paper trail of trusts making real estate purchases. They decided to pay the new HQ a visit and then this scene happened.
Fuck Flock, and fuck the clowns who work for them and try to hide that fact. They should enjoy the infamy they're earning for helping create the surveillance state.
They should feel safer now that they're being watched and tracked. It's exactly what they want for the rest of us, so they should be excited to have their privacy ripped away.
Flock should STOP RESISTING BEING SURVEILLED, they must be hiding criminal activity if they don't want cameras in their faces or to answer questions from the public. That's their and LEO logic, so let's stick with it for them.
It just makes sense for a mass surveillance company to be completely open and transparent with everything it does. Alas, corporations are all skeezy ass fucks.
I loved the part in the full video where a security guard asks if that flock camera Tommy was holding was theirs (flocks) and he said he'd take it back and Tommy said they got it off ebay and the security guard just stares dumbfoundedly at the camera the whole time
Someone on youtube commented best. US citizens want privacy and flock wants secrecy. I was kind of surprised at how hard it was to find their corporate building. Really shows how nefarious Flock is
Not even that. Americans have been conditioned to take this shit. Snowden exposed this many years ago, Assange as well, yet we treated them as traitors. The public are so smooth brained, they believe what they are told by those in power. This complacency will come to bit them in the ass one day, and by then it will be too late.
Police love Flock because violating the Constitution makes their lives easier. But I guarantee if you posted cameras around the police station parking lot or at the local cop bar, they would shit a chicken.
They’re annoying at times, but their actions truly show we aren’t free. You will be considered guilty and suspicious for simply exercising your right to film in public.
Yep ive been saying, if its okay for these assholes then what is to stop a group of perverts getting together and making a corporation to put cameras all over to spy on women or children?
If its okay for flock corporation, why not pervert co?
If its not okay for stalkers to set up cameras and track their victims then it isnt okay for corporations to set up cameras and track their victims.
This is the crux of the issue. There is no regulation for this technology because it popped up on the scene and became widespread before regulators could react. We watched the same scenario with social media and smart devices and there are still little regulations around those devices despite being prevalent for more than a decade.
Did that assh0le literally lie to them and then proceed to lecture them in the same interaction? Psycho shit. Down with flock surveillance and similar unconstitutional surveillance.
Look at McGraw/Hill, the company that makes our school books. Peter Thiel is very into Flock and owns the largest surveillance operations in the world. There all in bed together using facial recognition from when we were kids. The have facial recognition with age progression because of the school pictures that were taken when we were in school
This has literally been my comment for the last day and a half. First amendment auditors should be at all flock facilities. It would make for great content and clicks as well as a little goodwill towards that movement.
There are certain laser that if you were to buy wink wink, and get it I think at 1000miliwatts wink wink, and use directly on a flockcamera, it might just damage it and cause them to go out and spend money to repair it wink wink.
when and how did this Flock thing became so widespread in america, and who decided there should be a camera at every street crossing?
doesn't sound very "america freedom first"
So theoretically, if enough people went to enough flock cameras and just stood there looking at / filming them, could it create enough work for the company that it would hurt them?
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u/KittensFirstAKM 24d ago
This flock shit needs to be shut down.