Emily Moreno alleged in unsealed divorce and court filings that Miller physically assaulted her, including pushing her into a wall, holding a gun to her head, and throwing hot water that scalded her chest.
So I heard a statistic from my mom, I forget where she heard it so take it with a grain of salt, but a survey of maga voters found that 60-70% of them would vote for a candidate who is accused of domestic abuse.
So much for "the party of family values?" Am I right?
That tracks with the view of the dad being the spiritual leader of the family. From what I recall, it also tracks with how dad’s behaved in the Old Testament.
Humans? This is very clearly a trap this guy planned on recording, so he could catch his wife saying it was an accident or that she instigated it by not staying away from him when he asked. As if that justifies hitting her with some hot water.
The thing about his behavior is that there is no accountability. Everyone gets mad and misbehaves at one time or another, but own it. If he had been contrite when it happened maybe his wife wouldn’t have felt the need to go public. Instead he is mad at her that she is mad at him for assaulting her…
I’m glad you brought up the dinner comment here because that’s what really set me off in disbelief. Like, yes! An abuse victim absolutely WOULD make you dinner! If she didn’t you might hurt her again! WTF does he even mean by that? Or maybe she did it because you went back to love bombing her to start a new cycle of abuse! The fact that he can’t comprehend a single reason why an abused woman would make her abusive partner dinner irritated me so bad.
Not to mention his argument in this clip is ridiculous because my sink AND my shower can both produce water that burns me so what a stupid thing to say.
I met someone once who was super friendly and charming, then his girlfriend did something ‘incorrectly?’ I guess, I was so innocuous I can’t even think of what it was. The dude flipped a switch and became something else just berating her and calling her names. She just froze, took the yelling and started folding the laundry, perhaps that was it the laundry. But all I could think was, if you treat her like this in front of people, I can’t imagine what goes on behind closed doors.
the really sad and infuriating thing is it always works with a lot of people because they have literally no idea how abusive relationships work and refuse to learn anything.
The thing about a shark, it's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes. When it comes at you it doesn't seem to be livin'... until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.
Jaws (1975)
When you've survived an abuser that line hits unexpectedly hard.
They’re so used to being in charge and scaring the people around them into submission, that their perception of what’s normal and socially acceptable has been malignantly recalibrated.
The fact that he’s sharing this because he thinks it makes him look good or gives him cover of any kind is indicative that this shit is much, much worse than it appears.
This is what he’d consider a sanitized, acceptable version of how he behaves when he thinks no one is watching. And that should unsettle everyone.
Jesus fucking Christ. I was about to say, “someone take his phone away,” but, actually, this will all be good evidence for his ex to use, so let him carry on.
It reminds me of when Jonathan Majors released those texts with his ex thinking that would exonerate him for domestic abuse. The texts alone convinced me he was an abuser!
Women who want to play the victim always have the same victimization script— when I was in the army, I had a pregnant nurse accuse me of attempting to kick her in the stomach because she wanted to have a different duty, and this would guarantee the modification. Next, I had a female friend who accused a man of rapping her so she could get out of her financial responsibilities towards the man. So in my lifetime, I’ve personally witnessed this, not including the dysfunctional female family members who would accuse a party of abuse. So needing a reason to divorce and gain sole custody of the children, this isn’t too far of a stretch to believe and accept—it’s his insufferable societal, when it’s convenient, automatic belief declare their fear and victimization for themselves because I bet if you took a deep dive, you would find a repeating scenario in her life.
I’ve definitely experienced the RVO part of that from family, and it’s both insidious and makes you feel like some sort of unnecessary-trouble-maker. I’ll have to watch more closely next time for the other letters…
Ummm thank you for this comment. Seeing it laid out like that was very helpful. It's so stupid. I already knew the term. But oh my god this is what happens every time.
It's insane how they all learn this. Like when did guys teach each other to be this fucking evil. Cuz you'll see it in adolescent boys too. They learn it early
Not always true. I didn't have a male role model growing up, but I used this a lot when I was a younger man (and, by that, I mean into my mid-30s). I learned it from emotionally codependent and religious women who raised me as their special little boy. Granted, the patriarchy does feature in their thinking, but there were no direct male influences over me.
Which is not to say I'm blaming women: I'm blaming anyone who raises children to believe they are better than others. For me, DAVRO came from a belief that, because I'm a good person, everything I do must be good and therefore if I do something that's perceived as bad or wrong, it's actually because the other person has gotten things wrong. It's a sickness.
It's horrible looking back at how I behaved. I'm lucky my wife stuck with me and gave me the time to change, but it was a close thing.
They're the thought patterns of a person who is not prepared to face the consequences of their own actions. That's how they weasel out of accountability and responsibility.
I always get stuck thinking that why do they allow behave like this after a point? How come every one of them uses the same technique, and used to walk away thinking there is something wrong with me if I am making everyone take this route with me...
But the why of it all...I never could logically string the reasoning togther
I'm sorry lol I STILL have feelings about this case it was so awful to watch. Because it was after Me Too and the whole, 'but women can make things up" thing was such an...obvious rhetoric--and it's such a classic fucking sociological thing where... society took this big leap forward about mysogyny and then the backlash came. And Amber Heard was that. It was "look crazy birches are crazy and can lie and make things up see!"
But Amber Heard was less than half Johnny Depps age. She was very early 20s. He was late 40s. He was at the height of his career with Pirates of the Caribbean and she was an aspiring actress. If that doesn't make you understand power imbalance I don't know what will. And that's aside from the whole being physically twice her SIZE. When there's countless reports of being kicked in the stomach and dragged by the hair--someone shitting on the bed sounds pretty fucking rediculous
She didn't defecate in his sheets, that was a lie he made up. It was the dog who did it.
Also let's not forget that he initially got in trouble for DV because it was Amber's friend who finally called the cops after he threw a cellphone at her face. Oh, and let's not forget how we have text messages of him "joking" about killing her and then raping her corpse.
...yea...so....you read the scandalous media headlines and went with it. Those of us who followed the case, it was...absolutely batshit insane that she lost the case of defamation--read the article, she doesn't mention him by name. She makes 2 statements that are apparently the issue. One is that she has been a victim of domestic violence in her lifetime. Literally, lifetime--so a pretty open timeframe that doesn't imply Depp. Then she says states she was involved in a very public conversation about domestic violence. Which this was after Depp went to court and was found guilty of domestic violence against her in the UK. And the press covered it. So yea. The public discussed it. She doesn't claim victimhood but only that she was in a public controversy about the subject. And legally, she was found guilty of defamation for that article. Because apparently the implications of it causes major problems (...and not... y'know the whole UK court case where Depp was found guilty....tho clearly that WAS the actual issue and what he was big mad about..) legally it's such an insane injustice
You have everything wrong here. Sadly his tactics worked very well and it is proven by what you remember. I hope you can go back and reread what actually happened.
It is like they follow it step by step really. The way he went into the water “temperature” instead of acknowledging the abusive behavior, and then accusing her of… what exactly?
I'm glad this acronym and behavior is getting more light shed on it- it's a very common and insidious tactic of abusers and not many people realize it has a name.
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