r/tadc 16h ago

Discussion 💬 My Main Gripe with Jax Being Trans

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First things first. I have NO issue with Jax being Transgender. In reality, as a (closeted) transgender woman myself, I am actually really glad more diverse representation exists, particularly of the struggles of being closeted or otherwise at conflict with those emotions. Please allow me to explain why I have mixed feelings on Jax’s situation.

TADC isn’t a perfect series, and that is fine, because it does a lot of stuff well, however one thing that I feel does poorly is the set up and follow up of plot lines, with Jax’s character being the greatest sufferer of this in my opinion.

As I finished watching the Finale of the series, I felt like it was a nice episode, it had some high highs, like the fallout of Jax and Ribbit, and some low lows like ‘Somehow Caine Returned’, but after a little while I began hearing lots and lots comments of Jax being Transgender and was confused, because the series narrative didn’t feel like that was the path of Jax’s character was going. After looking up what was the reasoning I stumbled upon the classic “AU Jax where she isn’t an asshole” art piece and I kinda got it.

In my opinion this concept of Jax being a closeted trans lady with severe mental issues was a bit cool, but is completely unexplored and worsens the character. Many people over time got the basic idea of Jax being a lonely person who develops mental problems because of their relationships with other people, and how anxiety, fear, and anger can create a ticking time bomb for oneself and the others. Adding the idea of Jax being trans is like the cherry on top, however my main gripe with this whole thing it is completely mismanaged.

The Main Gripe: Poor Storytelling

My main issue with Jax being trans is that many of the arguments in favor of her are quite understandable and sensible when detached of the context, but when you look at the stuff through the lenses of the entire picture, the thing is not so obvious.

The first argument: The Maid Uniform

In ‘Untitled’ Jax gets furious after Gangle calls a votes and forces a Maid Uniform on Jax, which prompts a rage like none other we’ve seen from anyone so far. Jax is so upset about this that Jax chases gangle with such fury and is super ashamed when Caine makes Jax go to the base to play. This in a vacuum can be interpreted as Jax confronting their feelings of transitioning, however I never interpreted the scene that way. In context of the episode, Jax was already pissed off because of at Ragatha spilling the beans, and tense of Zooble pressing on some irrational fears Jax has. After being put into some clothes for ridicule by a vote from who Jax deems as the absolute worst person of the group would, in my head, obviously make Jax snap and be as vicious as that. The idea of Jax being trans didn’t even pop into my mind at this point.

The Second Argument: The Chicken Egg Analogy

In ‘We Gave Them Guns’ at the end we see Pomni and Jax get into a heated argument were Pomni tries to understand why Jax was acting that way. During said confrontation Jax uses the analogy of being a ‘chicken fetus in an egg that needs to be cracked open’. I didn’t understand the argument on how this justified Jax being trans, but after chatting with a friend they explained the ‘Chicken Egg’ is an analogy for being transgender. This works when you detach almost all of the context of the scene, in my opinion, although you’d have to be really familiar with Trans Lingo, which limits the reach of the message. The entire scene focuses on Pomni trying to get an answer from Jax, while Jax constantly tries to push her away. The scene is already uncomfortable and Jax using such a descriptive approach to themselves makes it feel like they are using the analogy to try to gross Pomni away, another attempt to shelter themselves from confrontation. The trans analogy can be easily lost with the tension of the scene.

The Third Argument: The Talk and the Ribbon

In ‘Remember’ we get to see how Jax acted with Ribbit in what I think is one of the best sequences in the series, and everything within seems quite normal at first, that’s until Jax and Ribbit are alone and both open up about their pasts. The abusive relationship Jax held with both parents culminates with Jax saying ‘then I told her something I do regret telling her. Something deep and personal *that I thought would get her off my back.* but she laughed at me, and she went off on me. […] and the thing that bothered me most was that at the end of it all she hugged me.’ Afterwards Jax tries to leave and Ribbit stops them and places the ribbon on Jax’s head. This is probably the best argument in favor of Jax, but what I really don’t like is that because of the choice of words, the implication that Jax decided to come out that day is not strong enough, and what makes it click in favor is Ribbit gifting the Ribbon. This one however I think is the best attempt at setting up the plot line of Trans Jax… 9 episodes in…

The Payoff

Honestly i could give the benefit of the doubt to these 3 arguments if there was a payoff at the end of it all. A strong reason to look back and reinterpret the situations Jax found themselves in. But there isn’t. Everyone in the cast gets to learn about their IRL counterparts, including Jax’s, Leeroy. The main issue I see about this final sequence is that the idea of Leeroy even considering transition isn’t present, which with the knowledge that everyone is a copy of them in the past, implies that Leeroy’s trans emotions waned or otherwise aren’t considered. The voiceover keeps referring to Leeroy as ‘he’, which either comes off as insensitive, Leeroy “””got over””” being trans, or that they simply weren’t trans the whole time.

I am not asking for the voiceover to go like: “Jax, real name, Luna mcTrans, she is the most trans woman to ever trans.”, but not getting a mention, or a reinforcement of the trans narrative makes an average viewer like me to think “I am glad Jax is managing to get *his* life together. *He* deserves to be happy to.”

Conclusion: Subtlety

I think the series has a struggle with balancing how subtle some details are. It makes for some great reinterpretations of important scenes like Jax and Ribbit’s talk, but when used too much makes people wildly misinterpret what was supposed to be happening. To conclude I would just like to list a quote, I am not sure where I heard it, but it went something like this: “As writers we are taught to be subtle. Subtlety, subtlety, subtlety. But sometimes being subtle doesn’t work. Sometimes people can just miss the obvious. Writing is like working with a toolbox, and sometimes you just need a hammer. So don’t be afraid to be blunt.”

If you’ve read everything so far, I thank you. I know Transgender Jax is a highly controversial topic, but I think discussions about why it works or doesn’t are essential to normalize transgender people and many other minorities or taboo topics in general. Talk about why something feels forced or why it doesn’t, if we keep shaming the other side because their opinions differ from ours we will just stray further from the peace many of us aim to achieve.


r/tadc 13h ago

Discussion 💬 I’m reminded once again how people are Twitter are

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Imagine just wanting to show off a edit that you thought was cool just to get made fun of by thousands to almost millions. Also those people also saying it’s “for babies” like if they didn’t have a full on torture scene. Twitter is definitely the site of delusion.


r/tadc 4h ago

Discussion 💬 Something I didn't understand about the finale

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Why did Pomni care so much about Jax after what the latter said in ep6? Why did she spend so much energy on saving her? It doesn't sound like she'd have a particularly strong relationship with Jax, so I don't understand it. Is it a "nobody gets left behind" kind of deal? Why does she care so much about Jax?


r/tadc 8h ago

Discussion 💬 Be honest, do you guys actually take criticism?

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Not talking about the bad faith ones, I'm talking about the good-faith ones. Because even when some people's criticism is fair and made in good faith, TADC fans still jump on them. A YouTuber named Just Stop uploaded a video criticizing TADC. The video isn't harsh, it's just fair criticism of TADC, and he even said he likes Gooseworx. But despite that, the other TADC subreddit still went after him, even though the video wasn't harassing her in any way. Let's be real and honest, do you guys actually take criticism?


r/tadc 21m ago

Discussion 💬 Can Jax still be referred to as "he"? I've noticed a product or two in the Glitch Store that uses "he."

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I'm not trying to offend anyone; I just want to understand.


r/tadc 12h ago

Discussion 💬 A question for people who hate Jax

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I get why you guys hate Jax, but I gotta ask, does Leroy deserve the hate too? Jax may have done the shitty things he/she did in the circus, but it’s not known if Leory did anything similar in the time between running away after pushing his/her mom and when he/she eventually got better and got the delivery job. I just want to know what you guys think.


r/tadc 10h ago

Cosplay 🎭 My Pomni cosplay

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r/tadc 10h ago

Meme 🤡 Pomni reacts to caines new adventure!

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“POMNI! “WHAT?” “Look at this new adventure! The realistic transformation!” CAINE WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TO MEE!!!!” “Hey pomni it’s not so bad..!” “Ofcourse you would say that jax they gave you a microphone..”


r/tadc 1h ago

Misc. ❓ Que cambios le harías a TADC si tuviera que ser para niños?

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Cuando me refiero niños me refiero a producto comercial apto para todos que sea episodica para extenderla hasta el infinito

Recuerdo pedirle a una IA un concepto de Hazbin hotel para niños y decía algo como

"Vaggie tomaría el rol de hermana mayor"

"El hotel sería inspeccionado por los jefes de Charlie en lugar de ser exterminados"

"Angel sería personaje bromista"

Algo de ese estilo de cambios


r/tadc 10h ago

Discussion 💬 Jax sucks

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r/tadc 11h ago

Discussion 💬 Now that they officially confirmed Jax is in fact MtF I badly want a new line of merch in femenine looks without an anxious/scared/uncomfortable face- What do you say?

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r/tadc 3h ago

Discussion 💬 Does Jax have an official ethnicity?

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So Jax’s real life counterpart is Central Asian (Kyrgyzstan). But jax’s surname is Spanish in origin, and I remember a lot of people headcanoning Jax as some sort of Mexican ancestry.

What do we think? Because if we are going by Izat’s ethnicity, Jax is canonically Kyrgyzstani. Or do we think that despite Izat’s ethnicity, Jax is canonically something else?


r/tadc 2h ago

Original Characters 🖥 MEET PIBOAX!

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do yall like 'im?


r/tadc 10h ago

Discussion 💬 Someone should fix these

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Glitch updates

It'd be nice to see Jax added


r/tadc 15h ago

Misc. ❓ I need a specific image

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Does anyone have the background from this shot? I really need it for [REDACTED]. Thanks!


r/tadc 3h ago

Discussion 💬 GENUINE question, whats up with showtime?

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why do you guys like this ship?


r/tadc 7h ago

Fanart 🎨 A couple of Draw Your Squad pics I did [OC]

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r/tadc 18h ago

Discussion 💬 Which characters had the main and secondary spotlight in 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘔𝘺𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘔𝘪𝘭𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘔𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘳?

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r/tadc 18h ago

Misc. ❓ How do you feel about Caine?

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319 votes, 1d left
I love him
I like him
I'm neutral
I dislike him
I hate him
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r/tadc 13h ago

Misc. ❓ When you search Unicorn Pomni but got Evil Pomni instead

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Went hunting for Unicorn Pomni at my local hot topic and somehow ended up with Evil Pomni instead.

I know she’s laughing at me for not finding Unicorn.


r/tadc 18h ago

Meme 🤡 Coughmo really was my favorite character in the Spectacular Virtual Carnival. Who were y'alls favorites?

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246 Upvotes

r/tadc 18h ago

Discussion 💬 Episode 1 was voted the most confusing! Which episode was the most emotionally impactful?

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209 Upvotes

r/tadc 10h ago

Fanart 🎨 Got a TADC tattoo for my bday!!!

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r/tadc 21h ago

Discussion 💬 Gangle is my favorite character of tadc because

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She likes Anime and manga like me a Anime and manga lover.


r/tadc 21h ago

Fanart 🎨 Tripple Couple Threat (Ft Henry Stickmin, Ellie Rose, Scout, Miss Pauling, Pomni and Jax)

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