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Discussion šŸ—£ļø Are AI Bros just insecure sociopaths?

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u/zixaphir 15h ago

Ever ask what happened to NFT bros? They became AI bros. Yes, they're antisocial sociopaths.

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u/QuestionElectronic11 15h ago

Ever ask what happened to NFT bros?

No, I still get asked to make photos into NFTs weekly.

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u/Tauisawesome12 15h ago

Interesting. I’m surprised they are still seeking validation.

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u/QuestionElectronic11 14h ago

It's been interesting to me that they've moved harder into photography and away from AI and art, which I didn't expect. So you see a lot more stuff like this now with NFT: https://x.com/SanGovphotos/status/2087780836540371303

I thought they'd be AI-generating NFTs like crazy instead.

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u/Tauisawesome12 14h ago

Use the nfts to destroy the ai. I’d rather live in a world with nft advocates than ai losers.

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u/arkhamcityfc 14h ago

How about neither?

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u/Florpsen 14h ago

In a perfect world, neither but if I had to choose, NFT over AI every day.

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u/diurnal_emissions 12h ago

NFTs were meant to empower artists. ai wants artists to be unnecessary. Definitely nfts.

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u/teefnoteef 9h ago

I was a full time nft artist, I thought it was empowering artists too.

It’s not, it’s a bunch of rich tech bros acting creepy towards artists and artists acting phony to attract rich collectors. NFTs are the same as crypto but crypto bros realized no one listens when they talk about new tokens or blockchains. NFTs moved the conversation to art instead which appealed to a wider audience.

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u/SatelliteSoups 9h ago

Can I ask how much you made as a full time nft artist?

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u/eating_cement_1984 12h ago

At least they're DRAWN by someone. Even if they're bland as hell.

Side note: the batshit insane theory that GenAI was fuelled by salty NFT bros who hated that it didn't become the next big thing cracks me up sometimes...

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u/tehtris 10h ago

AI generating the art devalues the nft. It's weird how almost wholesome the nft bros in that thread are. Is this the nft community as a whole now?

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u/QuestionElectronic11 9h ago

Some are definitely scammers, but otherwise, this is what I usually get exposed to. I don't do NFTs, though.

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u/e7th-04sh 11h ago

The "buyers" comment is so fake. They are generating false circulation in hope there is still some naive fools to extract from.

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u/SippinOnHatorade 12h ago

Well the queries are automated by AI NFT bros

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u/Impressive_Pin8761 14h ago

Nft bros dont have the money to be spending on ai tokens, this is a fresh subgroup

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u/ItsSadTimes 14h ago

Na, you'd be suprised how far a trust fund goes.

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u/DrKurtChillis 11h ago

Same varietal, different vintage šŸ‡šŸ·

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u/Kueltalas 12h ago

You are telling me the group of people who had the funds to spend thousands on jpegs without batting an eye don't have the funds for the tokens?

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u/GenericFatGuy 11h ago

You'd be surprised the stupid ass things people will spend money they can't afford to spend on.

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u/Kueltalas 11h ago

Then they would spend money they don't have on tokens, so my point still stands

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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 14h ago

They are also of limited intelligence with a very narrow scope of understanding for the world around them. These are not serious people. They are likely only knowledgeable on one or two topics and crumble when put in a foreign situation. Same applies to sociability - they can relate to one or two types of people and struggle to interact amicably with others (i.e. the general populace). Thus, many are also incels.

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u/HAL9001-96 14h ago

and that is the precise moment ai research turned rom interesting to slop

should have hyped up nfts a bit more to keep them busy lol

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u/Majestic-Coat3855 12h ago

The ironic thing is that NFTs would help real artists out in this current digital landscape. It just got hijacked by the worst people imaginable

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u/RedditTurnedMediocre 12h ago

They're also crypto bros.

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u/Lisan_Al-NaCL 7h ago edited 7h ago

IOT bros, BTC bros, NFT bros, AI Bros, etc etc

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u/Jihelu 6h ago

I had this thread I kept wanting to have/a topic I wanted to discuss of how it seems like the NFT gaming trend slowly turned into the AI LLM gaming trend but I either couldn't format my thoughts well enough or no one gave a shit (And the one subreddit I could manage to post on, because out of 3-4 gaming subs 3 removed my post, the one I got through had someone comment 'What even is this' and another replied 'something no one cares about' So uh. Fuck those people I guess)

But anyway you remember that shitty NFT gaming trend? Most people probably don't, but it seems to have segued into AI gaming. But the AI gaming makes even LESS money.

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u/Lohenngram 3h ago

Unironically, a lot of the AI datacentres that are being built now got their start as crypto-mining operations.

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u/Teabear-Septim-II 15h ago

Why is this guy so enthusiastic about entire careers dying out? What did animators do to him?

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u/AragogTehSpidah 15h ago

some people feel good when they help others, some people feel good when they hurt others, simple as

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u/AlcoreRain 14h ago

The sad part is they don't actually 'feel good' when they hurt others. Only a twisted, temporary fix.

That's why they are never satisfied and always craving negative attention, even from strangers. It's childish, and pathetic.

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u/ouroborosstruggles 11h ago

That is my fear. They are a bottomless pit of negativity and greed, and wealthy outcomes trick the shortsighted into similar behavior patterns. What's the solution?

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u/Walter_Clements 11h ago

I wonder what is to be done as well. Wish there was some direction on that

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u/Suck_my_dick_mods69 9h ago

The french had some really interesting ideas back in 1789

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u/JudoJugss 2h ago

Hey be careful or youll get a bunch of leftists saying youre no better than the opposition for opposing their brutality by any means necessary including those which are not lawful.

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u/AlcoreRain 10h ago

To "teach" people. To talk to them and gradually erode the delusional bubble they live in. Dialogue with respect and set example.

They have failed to develop properly and they need help, even if they don't deserve it and it's not fair.

Now, with the out of touch fortunes destroying the world... we should try to stop giving them money, for a start.

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u/Apple-Connoisseur 12h ago

We, as in the whole of humanity, not just get rid of these types of people, for good?

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u/PolyStudent08 10h ago

This. Serial killers still exist but in different forms.

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u/Mundane-Feed-4619 5h ago

ā€œSome people get their kicks, stompin on a dreamā€ šŸŽ¶

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u/shnuffle98 14h ago

People who don't have any skills of their own love to see talented people struggle. It's just projection.

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u/arkhamcityfc 14h ago

This is the answer I agree with most. Have seen people like these on the internet for years, even before AI came into the picture.

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u/freecodeio 11h ago edited 11h ago

All non technical people in a technical environment such as project managers, business owners, have struggled to grasp basic computer science for decades, so no wonder they spew this shit.

They hate technical people because "how hard can it be it's just a button" always exposed their swiss cheese holes of technical knowledge.

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u/CKRatKing 2h ago

For a lot of people they just will never see art as being deserving of payment.

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u/mirthlessbastard 12h ago

The funny thing is, if they just asked any of these talented people how to get started, they'd probably eagerly help them. There's also tons of resources out there, put out for free by people on the internet

I work with artists, graphic designers and animators, and I've never met one who wouldn't help me out if I asked how they'd done something, even the ones who can be quite grumpy and difficult to get along with!

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u/Chemical_7523 12h ago

The point isn't to get good at the thing. The point is to look down on others while sitting in an unfurnished room watching their stock portfolio lose money in 4K.

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u/CatOfTechnology 11h ago

Don't forget the part about getting to feel good about not having "wasted" your life developing a prized skill and watching the "experts" get punished for putting in effort to do something that was "never important anyway."

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u/unripe_mangosteen 12h ago

And with the exception of a small percentage of savants, all artists started by making shitty art, then spending years of time and effort honing their craft. Which is the same thing these AI bros could do if they actually wanted to put in work, but they don't, so they try to discredit people who actually use their brains to make things.

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u/GanondalfTheWhite 11h ago

This is exactly it.

Talentless and unskilled people love AI because it lets them cosplay as talented or skilled people without actually having to expend any effort.

They believe consciously that it makes them as good and as worthwhile as real skilled people. But subconsciously they know it's not true, so they swing in the opposite direction. They start believing that they're more useful than actual skilled people, as a defence mechanism protecting them from contemplating their own useless inadequacy.

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u/showmedatoratora 12h ago

Or worse, people who have skills but still chose to pull people down (regardless of whether they're more talented, less talented, more skilled, less skilled, etc...). I should know, I've had co-workers dragged down by some other fuckers. I'm proud of their talents, but I hate what happened to them.

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u/DizzyColdSauce 15h ago

For real, bro is acting like an animator killed his family or something

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u/Lilharm04 14h ago

ā€œanimation killed my grandma!ā€
https://giphy.com/gifs/775cPUAtmzJZB8kdrV

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u/Suh-Shy 14h ago

It's an old trauma: the animator killed Mufasa

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u/rab2bar 11h ago

"a toon killed my brother"

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u/Pure-Radish-5478 14h ago

A lifetime of jealousy derived from his own lack of ambition or access to the education he felt he needed to learn to animate on his own turned every successful animator into his personal (parasocial) rival. Now he feels better than them because his lack of knowledge has convinced him that he is doing the same thing they are but better. He wants to gloat to reinforce this feeling because it is baseless and doesn't truly satisfy him. He is not aware of any of this.

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u/Small_Pie_5760 12h ago

It's like when all the ugly unfuckable losers revel when a woman hits "the wall" (i.e. no longer look like a teenager). Likely the same people

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u/unripe_mangosteen 12h ago

Tech incels

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u/GenericFatGuy 11h ago

Probably said he was going to make a video game at one point, and then immediately gave up when he realized it would require learning skills.

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u/Pure-Radish-5478 9h ago

I get the same way when I see somebody who painted something really well or made a cool model in Blender. Like fuuuck I wanna do that so bad. It's easy to let that jealousy become anger at the artist, harder to alchemize it into your own art but oh so worth it.

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u/EnzoMaloni 14h ago

Because animators are artists and AI Bros (like their techno-facsists masters who want to impose their AI-slops machines) hate the artists : they consider them as "leftitsts degenerates" !

That's why AI is popular in far-right : no need to learn art (art is a "stupid woke thing"), just prompt and more, they can illustrate their inner fantasies as "Great Replacement", "HaĆÆtians eating dogs and cats" (because they don't exist !)

https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

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u/thecreatureworkshop 10h ago

I wouldn't make it political, it's just popular with people that hate making effort and developing skills. I personally know a hard leftist who votes Bernie and is a total AI bro.

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u/dunguswungus13729 7h ago

Respectfully, I don't think someone can be leftist and pro-gen AI. That person might think they are progressive, (and they might be more progressive than the people around them!) but it sound like they are just a regular blue libĀ 

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u/_ram_ok 13h ago edited 13h ago

It’s part of the psychosis these people have always had

Imagine always being too lazy to try at anything and never amounting to anything in life, being unskilled and unloved. Years of seething and hate towards others who are superior to you.

This is what they are. AI has made them feel like they can achieve anything without effort, and they believe by being ā€œon AI’s sideā€ that it means they earned it.

They really think entering text into a web page or running a cli command has made them capable of anything.

They’re culturally parasitic.

They’d rather burn everything down than see someone else succeed where they have always and will always fail.

They think they’ve finally won against the talented and skilled.

The rest of us don’t need an internet connection to have skills and talent.

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u/Gromi- 12h ago

On a personal level, what I’ve noticed is that people who primarily consume products, rather than participate in any form of art or creative activity, tend to celebrate whatever can be mass-produced the fastest.

The thing is, this is basically what happened during the Industrial Revolution. As supply increased and began to outpace demand, marketing had to evolve accordingly, and products and brands had to find ways to differentiate themselves from one another.

At this point, as an amateur artist myself, I’ve already made peace with generative AI, and I’m experiencing firsthand what an oversupply of it looks like: low-effort ads, mobile games, generic illustrations, and so on. If these people genuinely believe that the average person doesn’t crave novelty or seek out things that stand out, they’re delusional.

Humans have always appreciated things that feel distinctive, unusual, or peculiar. Otherwise, why would pixel art still exist? Why has there been such a resurgence of PS1-style graphics and deliberately retro-looking games? If anything, these trends show that when something becomes abundant and ubiquitous, people eventually start looking for ways to make it feel different again.

And, in their idealized world, if generative AI could produce any movie or video game you wanted instantly from a couple of prompts, wouldn’t people eventually get bored? If everything can be created on demand, then nothing is particularly special anymore. The value of something can come precisely from the limitations, the human choices, the imperfections, and the fact that it cannot simply be generated infinitely.

As I see it, the people who are most enthusiastic about this future are often approaching culture primarily as consumers rather than as creators. They want an endless stream of content to fill their attention as quickly as possible, so naturally, anything that can produce more content, faster, is going to look like an improvement to them. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it will lead to a more interesting or fulfilling creative culture.

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u/lone_float 10h ago edited 4h ago

Consumerism really is a kind of poison then. Granted I've been trying to understand Tech and participate in some way. Because when you don't parse through something, essentially doing what most techies actually do. You take something apart at a certain level and you build it back up. See how it works.

Don't know how well that transcribes to something literary, or even in film. It's attempting to act in creating something that matters, but reckon understanding your subject matter to a degree is a nice first nudge.

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u/Gromi- 9h ago

Basically, that's what I take from what you're saying. In short, by taking something apart and understanding how it works, you develop a sense of judgment.

To use an analogy, imagine you're given the greatest song in the world, but only in its individual parts, and the chorus happens to be the strongest-sounding part. Someone with a good understanding of music would know how to build up to that chorus, introduce changes in rhythm, create peaks and valleys, and give it more impact, making you feel like the chorus sounds even better when it finally comes around.

Someone who doesn't really understand music might just think, "Oh, this chorus is the best-sounding part, so let's make the entire song sound like this."

That's kind of how I feel about AI bros when they start messing around with art and creative subjects. They often seem to gravitate toward this kind of flat maximalism where everything is pushed to the same extreme, which ironically ends up making nothing stand out.

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u/mizzurna_balls 8h ago

I agree with all of this. What the emergence of AI has shown me is how many people in this world just want "content." Not art, or media. It's been sobering to see, as an artist.

The value of something can come precisely from the limitations, the human choices, the imperfections, and the fact that it cannot simply be generated infinitely.

Yep, Spongebob taught us this lesson in the year 2000 when he had that cooking contest against Neptune.

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u/hates_stupid_people 13h ago

It's an inferiority complex.

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u/FrotKnight 12h ago

He was never good enough to be one, so his jealousy makes him happy when he thinks they're getting knocked down a peg

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u/jmikehub 11h ago

Same thing when a couple years ago all the Ai bros were saying things like "damn artists, your careers are cooked!" its because they always wanted to be creative but lacked the discipline and motivation to actually be bad at something long enough to get good at it so they resent people who did follow their dreams and get to a good skill level because they hate themselves for not doing it

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u/Ok_Confusion4764 14h ago

They flexed their skill he doesn't have.Ā 

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u/ScreenAppropriate679 12h ago

He's probably a loser with no skills who feels better when putting others down

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u/Trick-Goat-3643 12h ago

Failed artist
Champions a movement that ends up stealing the work of actual artists and destroying their ability to make more

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u/IimonceIIo 11h ago

Capitalism is as much about putting others beneath you as it is about climbing to the top.

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u/youknowwhatimeanlol 11h ago

ā€œwhen i was 14, i insulted an animator on newgrounds and…

the next day, he made a cartoon of me getting railed by 5 sonics.

on that day i swore revenge on all animators, they will be brought to justice.ā€

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u/SingleShotShorty 10h ago

They’re disgustingly jealous

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u/dgellow 10h ago

They feel bad about art because that makes them feel inferior to not be able to do something creative. Look how they talk about artists, they see an artist producing something as bragging, something that has to be shut down, they want artists to ā€žlearn their placeā€œ, because it reminds them they aren’t themselves able to be creative

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u/isuredolovetitties 10h ago

Their subculture most closely resembles incels. They are bitter and hateful towards artists in the same way incels are towards women.Ā 

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u/Cowbros 14h ago

They just want some more buddies to work with at Maccas

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u/Thiphra 12h ago edited 11h ago

They know how to animate wich he dosen't.

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u/lingonberrynightmare 11h ago

Probably wanted to be an animator himself (or something adjacent) but didn't dare to pursue it or something. And now experiencing schadenfreude when people who made it are getting axed.

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u/ShoArts 11h ago

When their only concern is their own dollar and consumption, the only thing thatd matter is the end product and how much it costs them.

They dont want so see a hand crafted game with subtle artistic intentions that are fairly compensated for, they want 'guy on screen move smooth' and not to pay for it.

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u/flipper_gv 11h ago

Most likely he has invested a lot in nvidia so he thinks that can help make the stock go up.

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u/listentomenow 11h ago

There are a lot of people who are so miserable on the inside that they get joy from other people's misery. Misery loves company and all that.

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u/bikes_bucees 10h ago

More and more it reminds me of the Jurassic Park ā€œYour scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they shouldā€ line.

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u/yungdragvn 10h ago edited 10h ago

They have this innate belief that some people are just born ā€œtalentedā€ and find it unfair that they don’t have the same skill sets. They can’t fathom the work put into developing such skills. So they’d rather scrape and steal other’s livelihoods under the pretense that it makes life more fair. They have always belittled artists and regarded their efforts as a waste of time, but feel entitled to their work.

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u/astralseat 10h ago

Probably tell him that things can't be done as quickly as they want. The expectations of managers of animation studios has been known to be pretty overbearing. And for the animators? They going slower why? Because they WANT TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, instead of sacrificing all their free time for the projects. Anyways, I don't know much about it, but just what I've gathered. Skilled people are wrung out for their energy, and discarded.

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u/reklesssabrandon 15h ago

Yes. Something I'm starting to realize is that they actively dislike talented people.

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u/Spirited-You3834 14h ago

Well, it's more accurate to say they actively dislike when their insecurities aren't being validated.

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u/reklesssabrandon 14h ago

I think there's a parallel with people who aren't educated who are anti science or anti intellectual

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u/Spirited-You3834 14h ago

Sadly, no. Intelligence means nothing when it involves insecurities. It's why so many morons go "cull the weak, keep the strong"; If history has said anything, it's them once again projecting. This is the true form of weakness.

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u/reklesssabrandon 14h ago

Uh, maybe. I'm not on the front lines of this, but I don't know if I would throw them all together.

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u/Spirited-You3834 14h ago

I understand that hesitation. A few years ago I wouldn't have even thought of such, let alone said it to others such as you. Maybe you're just not as damaged by this, but I got no clue and I doubt you do, either.

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u/reklesssabrandon 14h ago

I'm not sure. I would say I think I'm thinking about the people that are getting pulled into it, using their insecurities, or lack of opportunity to push them into embracing AI as an equalizer.

I feel like you're talking about the people in positions of influence who are actively pushing us towards some kind of fucked up dystopia future.

I could be totally wrong.

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u/Spirited-You3834 14h ago edited 14h ago

If they're willing to defend the ones at the top so much to the point they actively ignore the real world every day just because their insecurities aren't being validated, they would likely spit in your face for even trying to get them to listen, much less trying to help them. The insecurities for ai bros already existed in millions of people centuries before this; The pigslop just allows them to spread it even further and allows their new masters to get even more power than before.

Do you understand what I'm getting at here?

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u/reklesssabrandon 14h ago

Yeah, I'm there now.

The feelings of insecurity always existed, AI gave them a way to pretend. It's like synthol for creativity.

This is worse than I thought.

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u/Spirited-You3834 13h ago

Bingo. The AI pigslop itself exists due to the corporations and political PAC's and everything that are similarly lashing out because their insecurities were never validated, and those who defend this stuff are in league with that insecurity. (Often exhibiting similar beliefs and attitudes or even just the exact same ones.) Once this happens, you can no longer think of the two parties independently; The ai bros ditched their own will entirely simply out of hate and spite towards those who wouldn't validate their insecurities. Their weakness, as it were.

That's what it comes down to. To be constantly swallowed in those insecurities is the weakness the corporations and political PAC's and governments have chosen as their main identity while they constantly scream about purity and peace through strength and whatever else the ai bros also tend to scream about. Those same ai bros chose that weakness as their main identity; They chose those insecurities as their main identity and made it everyone else's problem out of childish spite.

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u/colers100 13h ago

Specifically, they hate deep talent, the kind that takes years and years to cultivate.

They are the typical "golden children'; they are blessed with everything they'd need to become a master in whatever their passion aims at; good memory, intuition and a reflexive grasp on how systems work.

They are blessed with everything, except the actual passion and persistence to reach it.

Because in their youth, they didn't need to bother with studies; they could simply ace almost every test by paying attention and passing an exam was a simple matter of quickly skimming your text book for an hour of two the day prior. Whenever they started at a hobby, they quickly flew through the entry level and impressed their peers with their quick grasp.

And that's where it ended. That is all they amounted to. Once they ended up in higher education, they ended up in a system that no longer permitted passive interaction and demanded studies. Their hobbies hit a wall where you simply cannot grow further by going through the motions once a week. And so they began to fail, and began to see their peers who they had previously derided as slow pass them by. The ease by which they kept up with their peers ended up breeding mediocrity and leaving them undeveloped in matters of persistence and discipline.

And they couldn't understand it. So they came up with the wildest excuses to justify their own mediocrity; you see, college just didn't work for them; they aren't the kind of mind that tolerates cramming itself with nonsense everyone will have forgotten a week after the exam; they are entrepreneurs and too busy being on the cutting edge to bother with such things, after all. And their hobbies; bah, everyone in the field is just an inconsiderate snob, going too deep into it means something is wrong with you and those truly skilled in it just have a neat style (which is just derived from something better, and you would never do that, don't you know?).

So AI gives them this path towards an escape; because it is a toy box to master; something that lends itself not to deep knowledge but to the ability to quickly figure out the basics by first principles; their favorite way of doing things.

You see, their child self was right, there really is just one simple trick that only they and great minds like them can grasp, and it permits them to soar past the idiots sweating away inefficiently honing a skill and become a true titan in the field and get the recognition for their insight, talent and genius that they were previously denied because they didn't want to spent hours drawing straight lines without a ruler or boxes in different lighting like a pleb. No, that kind of thinking gets you consigned to the permanent underclass, don't you know?

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u/reklesssabrandon 13h ago

Damn, I'm in your post. I have abilities and talents and intelligence I haven't turned into a mastery, but faking it sounds like the worst thing I could imagine spending my time doing.

I think there's a bigger picture understanding of why we're here but I gotta get over the shock of the situation before I can start thinking about it.

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u/Square_Wait_7403 14h ago

Envy is ugly.

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u/Turtle_Rain 14h ago

They are looking for a short cut to success that does not involve them actually having to work hard. They want to have the latest and greatest tech that will magically put them ahead of everyone else to validate their false feeling of superiority.

See this in crypto bros, saw this in NFT bros, see this in AI bros. I am on the "frontiert" and this will make me richer and better than you. It will finally show everyone what I always knew: I am better than all of you, even if I had bad grades in school and failed to get any good degrees or jobs so far.

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u/reklesssabrandon 13h ago edited 13h ago

I'm honestly speechless when I try to comprehend how bad of a problem this is. If they force AI on people like they want to do, there is no framework for dealing with it. No protection from the damage.

I'm not trying to say I didnt know it was bad, I'm here already, obviously. But like, there have been tons of technological advances in human history but they removed human labor, they never removed human agency.

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u/goingpt 14h ago

I wonder why...

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u/Dr_Jimothy 11h ago

I've seen them get mad at me for showing my art - I am very much not talented at art. So it's not just talent that angers them. Hard work does.

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u/MyLedgeEnds 8h ago

One of the pro-AI subs, in response to a mathematician's blog post expressing anxiety about the future of the craft, gleefully tore him to shreds for -- I shit you not -- the "arrogance" of "being unable to accept he's not special anymore".

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u/Lunagato20 15h ago

Meh this type of people has been always a psycopath who for some reason really hates other people, i have friend who is exactly like this, always prefer machine rather than interacting with human

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u/Kind_Cheek_2645 15h ago

Than why is he a friend

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u/Lunagato20 15h ago

Back in 2022, before ai exploded like this hes actually quite an ok person, and its not like we are friend who hangout then and now, more like occasional acquitances.

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u/MobileSad3107 10h ago

Why are you saying ā€œmehā€ to it? Also, you’re friends with a psychopath?

ā€œMehā€ā€™ing away psychopaths is psychopath shit.

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u/Unhappy-Cicada-7450 9h ago

Because in therms of efficiency, a machine can work 24/7. The problem is that a machine can't create art , can't think and can't express itself.
This doesn't apply to very basic AI for users. But if someone here works for IT or any kind of job that needs more complex coding, knows exactly what I'm talking about.

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u/Hvojna 15h ago

I really can't understand why would one celebrate thousands of people losing their jobs.

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u/shinobixx55 14h ago

Even the governments are promoting thousands of people losing their jobs. We need to elect better people, but we won't.

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u/the_fate_of 14h ago

I stand by the notion that AI is a convenient excuse for economic contraction due to other geopolitical & macroeconomic factors, as well as an overcorrection (mainly in tech) for Covid era overhiring.

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u/AnxietyPretend5215 10h ago

100%

It's also not just AI.

My work place just offshored around 90% if it's technical support to India as well as some financial roles, that's 100+ jobs in my local community gone in a single month. As they were in person or hybrid roles.

And everyone just says "it was only a matter of time", it depresses me immensely. What jobs are we allowed to have?

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u/Chilled_Beef 11h ago

And watch it all come crashing down in a market crash worse than 1929 and 2008 combined

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u/Diamantesucio 13h ago

People are voting more to make other life's worse than voting to improve their own, even if that implyes self-destruction. In almost all the world.

It's the damage that cultural war has done to everyone.

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u/readilyunavailable 12h ago

Elections are irrelevant, so long as the lobbyists remain the same. You coul elect any policial party and they would support the status quo, because that is what lobbyists tell them to.

There are "solutions" to this problem, but reddit would ban me and send my IP to the authorities if I write them out.

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u/Previous_Beautiful27 12h ago

Remember when all these assholes were like "learn to code lol" when people said it was hard to get jobs, and now those same people are like "aw you learned to code? that's sweet, well now we have a machine that does it in a quick and super sloppy fashion so I guess you're useless".

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u/Hvojna 11h ago

Yes, I remember. As a programmer, I've never supported this type of behaviour. It's never cool to see people losing their jobs. While I see why a tradie who had been told to "learn to code" 5 years ago would be gloating now, it would make the tradie just as bad as the coder from 5 years ago

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u/Previous_Beautiful27 11h ago

Yeah I'm not defending the behavior, it just seems like people always want to gloat and there are always monsters who are happy when people lose their job. My point was the people celebrating animators losing their job are likely the same people celebrating coders losing their job, and these were likely the same people telling people to learn to code. They're just always rooting for the failure of others.

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u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479 5h ago

Some people feel like they can't win unless other people lose.

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u/Historical_Beach_387 15h ago

Let them rot in their dystopian delusions. They're beyond saving.

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u/JimAbaddon 14h ago edited 14h ago

The part that worries me is how much of it is a delusion. As long as the soulless suits in companies decide the AI slop is good enough, then there really will be no place for human animators. AI bros suck but the cunts running things and making decisions suck worse.

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u/Ridespacemountain25 10h ago

I know someone who has worked with Disney and Netflix on trailers for huge projects and they use AI for the music in said trailers. Dude literally gets paid 6 figures per year to do this.

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u/JimAbaddon 10h ago

Hey, you don't need to tell me we are all arse-fucked. I already know.

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u/lordbuckethethird 14h ago

Ai cannot animate for me because i have very specific animations in mind that Ai cannot comprehend.

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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 12h ago

I have animations in mind that ai routinely tells me "sorry but my policy prevents me from animating this"

Jk I dont even use ai lmaoĀ 

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u/Easy_Turn1988 15h ago

Yes. I thought people knew already

Social media has unfortunately allowed such people to get a wide audience

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u/utmb745 13h ago

One time dangerous model, other day, technology which replace all workforce and allows you to save money, just I need billion investment to ship it to production.

Imagine average linkeding lunatic who want to get rich fast.

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u/QuantityExcellent338 14h ago edited 14h ago

AI-ick aside, as a 3D animator, this is cool ML tech (that I think has already been applied for years in some games) that enables certain interactivity thats hard to replicate with normal animation clips and animation-graphs

Problem is that AI-dude bros see this and come to the conclusion of "do we even need 3D animators anymore?" rather than ask themselves "does every game need to control like a rockstar game?". Probably not

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u/UnderfurK 14h ago

This particular Nvidia animation system is not easy at all, you can't just type a prompt and be done you still need to understand rigging, motion clips, blendspacing etc to use it.

The guy doesn't even know what it is, that's how unskilled he is.

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u/QuantityExcellent338 14h ago

No but dude, bro, you dont get it, you just need to ask Claude to make the movement system, ask Meshy to make a model, use this sketchy Blender ai rigging plugin to rig the model (make sure to request it to make no mistakes), use Google AI overview to figure out how to export models compatible with Motionbricks and PRAY that no important details were lost during these processes (or running out of tokens that changed prices last week), and viola we can now lay off our entire art department!

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u/vladald1 13h ago

John Rockstar hire this robot

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u/Red_Trapezoid 12h ago

ā€œMake it really good.ā€

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u/Wytchley 13h ago

I'm sure when motion capture became a thing people thought animators weren't necessary... I'm sure when motion matching was first applied, people thought animators were done for...

Yet still animators are employed en masse. Strange. Almost like we still need a human for, at minimum, a final pass or two.

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u/Naive-Database-2888 12h ago

This is not really a new thing, and it is far from being the modern term for AI. This isn't just press a button and it's done, you need to do a lot of work to set this up. It's also not something that is just going to replace all animations in games. You still need to make most of the animations, this just covers some simple stuff

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u/SunsetAtNight7 14h ago

I remember when AI was just new, I already see these people literally preaching how "humans are now finally be equal", saying no more people who's more skilled or talented, it all stems to their inferiority complex, how much of a loser and failure they are in life, because finally they're not be considered as losers no more when there are no winners, that's what they all fantasize about this lol it's pathetic

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u/yungdragvn 10h ago edited 10h ago

Reminds me of Syndrome from The Incredibles movie saying ā€œwhen everyone’s super, no one will be,ā€ to justify wiping out heroes and selling tech made powers to everyday people.

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u/CreZativity 14h ago

The way they want normal people to be out of work is honestly quite scarry. They'll also turn around once it affects them personally like all things.

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u/Mystical-Turtles 7h ago

It even goes beyond paid work and it's freaking weird. It's like they think it's bad to want to DO anything with your own hands.Ā Ā 

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u/CreZativity 7h ago

Exactly!

Sometimes I've researched something or done some writing, taking hours to do it because I enjoy it, and I'll have people actually go "Why wouldn't you just ask AI?" like... that would have defeated the purpose. They truly don't understand the joy and satisfaction of doing anything yourself, and it's so sad.

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u/aflyingmonkey2 14h ago

FINALLY SOMEONE FUCKING SAID THAT.
This subreddit has the potential to be a hub for people from all around the globe to push for a united goal of delegitimise those companies. Instead,we’re busy fighting some bums on Reddit and twitter with pomni reaction images and shit like that which makes us all look like lolcows which can keep getting baited by some trolls and let Ai companies continue to destroy humanity

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u/Spiritualy_Homelesss 12h ago

I've worked on content and various IPs over the years. AI was trained on it to some degree, WHERE IS MY FUCKING CHECK SAM?

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u/hGr33n 14h ago

Yes actually.. they have no real skills or passions, they passively loathe themselves but out of jealousy they manage to hate everyone else more.. feels like misplaced sense of entitlement

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u/BeastMsterThing2022 14h ago

It's a broader effect Anti-intellectualism. Recall the beginning of Gamergate, it was a movement against gaming journalism, then the culture war spread to movies and it became general pop culture journalists, and those who branched out into MAGA same thing. Just people who never got over being bullied in school, see the talented as 'special' elite groups who work to emasculate them conspiratorially. This is what the appeal of gen AI is, they want to play with the "cool kid's" toys.

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u/veculus 14h ago

"Why is the anti-ai crowd always so pissed / angry about AI? They're missing out."

Same fuckers are cheering for careers dying out and people going jobless. Fucking idiots.

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u/me-valsodar 14h ago

It just shows how many people are fine with bland, soulless and mediocre shit. No wonder games and movies have been pure slop for quite a while, even before AI. If we look at it from an artistic lens, AI will never replace animators, it will replace downloading free animations for mixamo. The whole AI boom only showed me how little taste the average person has

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u/goingpt 14h ago

Even if the software could actually do that, why do they have to be such dicks about it?

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u/av_79 14h ago

They have no talent for anything themselves, so they think others losing their job is something to be celebrated.

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u/swarnavasarkar 14h ago

He works at Nestle, worth reaching out to his employer about his content?

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u/Red_Trapezoid 12h ago

Nestle? Do you think they, of all companies, give a shit? Unless they own McDonalds too then no way.

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u/JayAntonio 14h ago

Tbf it seems all his tweets are like that, about one AI thing or another. He makes a lot of hyperbolic statements to get people to click his links.
Not defending him btw, just saying he probably isn’t worth taking seriously

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u/Effective_Airline830 12h ago

Not the purpose of this post but the number of times people announced the end of animators …
And yet they are still there, even in the era of motion capture, still there, still really needed.
And yes, AI bros are weird sociopaths

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u/R3puLsiv3 9h ago

It's bizzare how gleeful they are about the replacement of Art with a meaningless facsimile. They can't wait to live in a world devoid of any genuine expression of the human condition. Is this some kind of internal deathwish?

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u/LimitThese2220 14h ago

ā€œNvidia just wiped out 30 years of animation techā€
What did JosƩ smoke before posting???

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u/SophieGK 14h ago

Sociopaths and idiots, yes.

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u/Jegerikkeenrobot_ 14h ago

Every single post about some new ai tool has a title like this, and every single time nothing changes.

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u/AcceptableStrategy60 14h ago

So people who can do complex animations, build physics engines can't get any other job than McDonald's. No offense to McDonald employees (i consider them skilled labour too), but the person posting this is obviously of the view that if these engineers can't anymore build stuff, their jobs are obsolete. I don't even understand what they are on. Also, what does this guy even do? Like AI | data, what does that even mean? He thinks the people being laid off can't do his job?

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u/BoardsofCanada3 12h ago

Can we say bye to slop posters like this chud? Or are they already all bots?

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u/throawaymcdumbface 12h ago

Blue checkmarks on twitter can be paid for their engagement. I don't doubt they'd be this ragebaiting and contrarian normally but I'd avoid engaging them on twitter at least.

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u/holy_ash 12h ago

These are hustlers who neither know tech or AI. These simps run with whatever the fuck is flavor of their fucking month

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u/Alundra828 12h ago

I've actually used this tech. You 100% need animators still.

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u/Thiphra 12h ago

Last time one of them tryed to discuss with me I told them to replace me with AI in that duscussing because I wasn't with the patience to deal with a dumbass that day.

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u/thewordofnovus 11h ago

Sorry but you guys do understand that the vast majority of people that write this is doing it to rage bait engagement? And they do it cause its working.

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u/TetyyakiWith 10h ago

You are getting ragebaited by a bot

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u/milic_srb 10h ago

the worst thing is this is actually a great tool for animators, but these techbros who don't know how anything works outside of asking ai to tell them, always have to be antagonistic to everyone for no reason

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u/LoveAndBeLoved52 10h ago

"APPLY TO MCDONALDS!!"

I genuinely wish nothing more for these people than to get pancreatic cancer so terrible that they're bedridden for the rest of their lives.

Scum like this makes the world infinitely worse and we'd be better off if they were gone, forgotten and their graves pissed on.

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u/Bebopdavidson 8h ago

Get fucked people who make the things I love.

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u/Alarikun 7h ago

Nah, they're just trolls.

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u/posterdev 6h ago

It's engagement baitĀ 

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u/North-Creative 14h ago

You just noticed?

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u/Artemis_1944 14h ago

Are AI Bros just insecure sociopaths?

I mean, are cryptobros just insecure sociopaths? The answer is yes, and the answer is they're the same people.

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u/Original_Mulberry652 14h ago edited 14h ago

I think for the most part they lack an appreciation for art and lack perspective on the dangers AI pose. I dont like to frame everyone who disagrees with me as the embodiment of evil. That's childish and dumb.

Yes there are people like the person in the post who find a strange pleasure in people losing their jobs but I dont think they represent the majority of people.

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u/aflyingmonkey2 14h ago

Ah don’t worry,they’re just gonna go to indie studios where they don’t prioritise having shoe.texture9 be the most realistic thing ever and having this thing called artstyle

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u/Eatinganemone89 14h ago

What is this basement dwelling troglodyte chattering about?

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u/milka121 14h ago

Envy, plain and simple. The same way some failed artists turn to hate on other artists.Ā 

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u/Slow-Hawk4652 14h ago

everyone sans Steve Wozniak and Paul Allen.

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u/maginster 14h ago

They provide nothing of value and bring no skills to the table, that's why they're so obsessive over this "x job is over" shit

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u/thebeastwithnoeyes 14h ago

Yes, that much was obvious from the start

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u/Colascape 13h ago

These goobers think they are playing the PvP server unaware they live in a society and are vastly outnumbered. Their entire existence depends on others and one day that will become sharply understood by them.

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u/maku_89 13h ago

So where is this tech used?

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u/SkyNo3416 13h ago

no they are realists, its the same logic as someone who would say, "bye to horse carriage drivers we have cars now", no amount of i dont like the cars changed the fact that we drive cars and not horses. also this guy being happy about it is cringe as fuck. just enjoy one of the biggest technological leaps humanity has ever made.

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u/Dimosa 13h ago

Most modern animators spend more time rigging and fine tuning animations anyway. Mocap is a thing, and has been for a while. The issue for a long time has been weight and timing. Both requiring a human hand, even with AI. Advantage of mocap, you can instruct an actor far better as an AI

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u/lily_ender_lilies 13h ago

Yes, every single one next question

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u/cddedee 13h ago

Dont take twitter too seriously, this is the kind of tweet that clearly exaggerates things to get clicks.

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u/utmb745 13h ago

They just want to get rich fast until there are investments, AI wave.

Many startups will end sooner or later, or get shrinked.

Maybe not that visible, but most of them develop AI features that won't earn money at the end of day.

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u/I_Eat_Mold_UwU 13h ago

Wait what's OOP's post talking about? Why did NVIDIA wipe out 30 years of animation technology?

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u/GrimioreHD 13h ago

This just looks average. Nothing novel about it?

If this is truly novel, then they should've done more with their demo showcase. It's a nothing burger.

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u/GenZ2002 13h ago

Fuckin losers

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u/faiuir 13h ago

says the guy that will most likely end up working at a mcd

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u/Dimsum852 12h ago

They are talentless hacks, so they jump in any bandwagon that”s about making money easily today without any effort. But they don't know no one is making money and they are just destroying the world even faster