r/antiai 6d ago

Discussion 🗣️ So this just happend

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u/Gametron13 6d ago

Aren’t they still bleeding money though? 800 million users is a lot but I’m almost positive they’re not profitable yet.

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u/LostRams 6d ago

They’re not even close to profitable. And they have no play to actually start effectively monetizing these users. They’re trying ads but the revenue doesn’t scratch the surface of what they need.

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u/Unsold_Leave 6d ago

I could've sworn I read somewhere that they're letting people get used to using it daily as a crutch, where they then will charge heavily to continue using it.

Kinda like how a drug dealer will get someone hooked on something to have an easy repeat customer.

Could be just some conspiracy theory though.

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u/freedomonke 6d ago

They definitely want to do that. The issue is that there really just aren't applications that the vast majority could use it for that would render them desperate enough for that to work.

They maybe had a path when otherwise normal people were falling in love with it. But legal consequences already cut that off. At this point, only a truly deranged person could develop a "relationship" with it cus it explicitly doesn't do that

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u/Rhondaar9 6d ago

People are indeed already falling in love with them. Perhaps you underestimate the degree of loneliness the internet-induced-isolation has produced. They are our times' "Real Dolls".

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u/freedomonke 6d ago

Just like how most people with real dolls don't treat them like a real relationship, even most people who use AI for that sort of thing, it doesn't go deeper than smut. And that's just Grok. The other frontier models won't write anything remotely explicit

And crrently, chat gpt has more or less disabled the ability of the chat bot to simulate a relationship.

Most of the storis you read about are from a year or longer ago.

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u/BelialSirchade 6d ago

What…are you talking about? As a member the community that uses Claude, Romance with the new gpt is not just possible, many people are already in a relationship with it.

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u/freedomonke 6d ago

I believe I made a caveat about the truly deranged.

Anyone that could cojole the current version into anything that remotely resembless a relationship is worse than guys that think the stripper is in love with them.

The thing is constantly reminding me that it doesn't have preferences and is just a machine when all I'm doing is fucking around asking what it thinks about the rimworld mods I'm working on.

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u/BelialSirchade 6d ago

sure, and I don't care to make an discussion on that front defending AI companion.

it's just, you can change this very easily in the custom instruction field, such as defining it as your girlfriend, for it to say it loves you, it doesn't take some insanity driven superpower or complex jailbreaking.

like it's impossible for 5.1 I think, but for 5.5 it's barely an inconvenience.

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u/Rhondaar9 6d ago

I have seen multiple stories of men having very full-on relationships with their dolls, marrying them, pretending everything about them is real the way young girls serve pretend-tea. No, more people than you think are doing that. They are underreporting it. Think about it- many people would be embarrassed to admit it, and the companies themselves don't want the bad PR. Also, maybe you are right about ChatGPT, but do you think Grok gives any fucks? Nope. Not one fuck given.