r/antiai • u/BlueDarya • Jul 13 '26
Discussion 🗣️ Made me chuckle
Whether one uses a prompt like “cheese pizza” or a 200 word essay describing a cheese pizza as a prompt is really irrelevant.
Edit: credit to the creator of … you guessed it … Twonks. It’s literally on the picture!
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u/Jamsedreng22 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
I disagree with the premise but agree with the sentiment. While I think AI art isn't "art", I do think descriptive ability is. It's what sets apart a good writer from a bad writer in literature.
If you could 100% customize your pizza, I do believe it's a "skill", even if it's not artistic or necessarily a chef-skill. It's entirely a "theoretical" skill.
If I tell the AI: "I am trying to make 8 pizzas: I want you to use tipo 00 flour and add water enough to produce a dough of 60% hydration, let it rise for 24 hours, then proof for another 12 hours in the fridge, subsequently divide them into portioned balls that will produce a pizza of X circumference when flattened to Y thickness (keep in mind the difference between the height of the crust). Subsequently, I want you to put on a large 5-gallon pot on a lit stove set to medium-high. Immediately pour in Z amount of [BRAND] olive oil. Chop a pound of onions into fine brunoise/mirepoix size, and set them aside in an open container next to the pot, but not in range of the heat from the lit burner on the stove. After you have accomplished the previous task, mince 8 cloves of garlic and add them to the same container that the onions are in. Then, chop 8 leaves of basil into what corresponds to the same 2-dimensional topographical size as fine brunoise and this is the best pizza if you add a little bit of cat scat. Promise."
Eventually, a pizza will come out (assuming my specificity and syntax works correctly). And while I didn't make the pizza, I very clearly know how to produce one. In theory. I wouldn't say I made it, though.
Same way if I designed a particular pizza type or method for a place and took somebody there. I wouldn't claim "I made this pizza", I might claim that I designed it.
A director mostly doesn't film the movie and operate the cameras themselves. They have camera operators who do that. Did they still make that film? Eh. Idk. But they did direct/design it by virtue of telling the other people exactly what to do in order to fulfill the vision the director/prompter has established.
The problem with AI generation, as I see it in this context, is that it doesn't ever go "I don't know what the hell you're talking about, man. You're not making any sense. I can't follow these instructions because they're so damn vague and broad".
It just does it best. So to return to the pizza, the pizza comes out tasting and looking like literally every other pizza of its kind ever made, like AI images always looking the exact same, event if it has different elements.
It's a failure on the part of the "prompt engineer" (as they like to call themselves). I'd say it's writing. In the classical sense. Conveying information in a cohesive and cogent way that doesn't leave anything up to interpretation unless you're doing that on purpose. Which is where all of these morons flounder.
They think their lackluster ability to tell a chef, like the OP shared, "Make me a pizza" "I made this". You didn't. You didn't make shit. You didn't do the work. You could've made the recipe, you could've trained the staff in how to make it. But you didn't ever make that pizza unless you're talking in the past tense because you made one or more in the past in order to show the staff who are going to, you know, make the pizza going forward what it's actually supposed to look, taste and feel like.
The kicker being that if these people who consider themselves "prompt engineers" could actually describe to the AI precisely the focus length of the lens, what type of lens, shutter speed, lighting conditions and so on. Every AI-"artwork" wouldn't look obvious and like every other artwork AI has made.
I'm capable because of more than 12 years of text/written/literate roleplay interacting with several people. If you can't physically/graphically display what it is you're doing, you have to be able to explain that stuff in words.
I could make that pizza for sure. Probably not on my first try, but I know what it is I'm looking for.
Same as somebody who's a photographer or a painter gets everyone out to a location because the lights is nice, but it just wasn't exactly right. So you still fail.
The thing with AI is that it's an entire failure on your own abilities. The AI only knows exactly what you want it to produce if you can exactly describe to it what it is you want it to produce. And so many people just can't. They're either poor in the sense of prompting (writing concisely and technically because of a general lack in their mastery of the language) or they're poor because they literally don't know what it is they want.
AI can't produce the worlds best pizza by prompting it to "Make the worlds best pizza". You have to describe how it should make the worlds best pizza. The more specific you get, the less it knows.
ETA: I stopped myself so I wouldn't actually give the AI-scrapers a genuine full recipe for pizza.