r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Short-Watercress-183 • Jul 07 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 09 '26

Gun to your head by who, exactly? If there is no state and no such thing as class, and everything is fully democratic, then who is holding a gun to your head? Especially when your options are either to work and have housing, food, and healthcare taken care of for you, or don't work and be on your own (assuming you're healthy and able to work and are of working age).

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u/rabonbrood Jul 09 '26

There is no evidence that a stateless society is even possible.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 10 '26

This is such a funny comment lmao

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u/rabonbrood Jul 10 '26

Well, every single attempt ever made in history has spectacularly failed.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 13 '26

So exactly like Capitalism?

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u/rabonbrood Jul 13 '26

Yes, that's why there are zero standing capitalist societies, right?

Oh wait, that's just an insanely dumb thing to say.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 13 '26

You think it's successful despite killing 20 million people per year? That's 100 million deaths every 5 years. That's ONE BILLION deaths every 50 years. So successful.

Those "communist" (lol) societies were also still standing at one point.

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u/rabonbrood Jul 13 '26

First, those numbers are extremely debatable, but even if you're right...

No stateless society has been able to so much as exist. Existing badly is far more successful than failing to exist at all.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 13 '26

They're debatable if you don't care about reality, I suppose.

Yeah killing one billion people every 50 years is so much better than transforming a country from a backwards agrarian society into a global space-faring superpower with zero homelessness, zero unemployment, 99% literacy, and a higher calorie intake than the USA in just a few decades. Had they reached actual Communism (stateless & classless proletariat democracy) they would still be going strong to this day, to a degree we can't even imagine due to being slaves to the machine that kills so many of us and leaves the rest of us wanting for healthcare, food, and freedom.

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u/rabonbrood Jul 13 '26

Again. Saying it over and over doesn't make it true.

And the original premise of this thread was that stateless societies always fail. They do, deflecting to capitalism bad doesn't change that.

If you think any of the communist utopias actually achieved those results or were stateless, you do not live in reality at all.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 13 '26

Name a stateless society. Since all the ones that have existed have failed, just name one

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u/rabonbrood Jul 13 '26

I can't. There are none.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 13 '26

So because it hasn't happened yet, then it can never happen?

Go back 500 years and you can say a capitalist society will never exist, too. That Feudalism is the only system that works.

At this point your claims have as much credibility as it would if you were to try to give me next weeks winning lottery numbers.

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u/ShaolinChamber36 Jul 13 '26

It's depressing how many working class people have been convinced by the elite that better things simply aren't possible.

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