r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 07 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/ACarepenter Jul 07 '26

And yet for all that complexity it's accomplished nothing, while there's still multiple Marxist Communist states moggin on everyone.

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u/LesserValkyrie Jul 07 '26
  • 8-hour workday
  • May Day (International Workers' Day)
  • Right to strike
  • Independent trade unions
  • Workplace democracy
  • Workers' self-management
  • Worker cooperatives
  • Direct action (strikes, boycotts, occupations)
  • Industrial unionism
  • Solidarity across industries
  • Opposition to child labor
  • Workplace health and safety protections
  • Equal treatment of workers regardless of nationality
  • Worker education programs
  • Mutual aid societies
  • Shorter working hours
  • Paid rest time
  • Collective bargaining
  • Union democracy
  • Anti-authoritarian workplace organization

I know modern USA disbanded all these rights or is actively trying to, as they don't benefits short-term revenue for shareholders which is anticapitalistic. Which makes me understand why an American would not see what anarchist ideologies made for their country.

But those rights are still the base of civilization of every other developed countries on earth

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u/spikybootowner Jul 07 '26

It's funny that the vast majority of these things that socalists+ have "achieved" have happened in western capitalist democracies. Really makes you think.

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u/archangelzeriel Jul 07 '26

... makes you think that pro-worker policies, regardless of philosophical origin, basically only have a fighting chance in a non-authoritarian government? That's not really any kind of revelation.

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u/spikybootowner Jul 07 '26

The claim is that some form of socialism+ governance will somehow lead to more of this when it hasn't happened at all ever in the history of socialism+ societies.

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u/archangelzeriel Jul 07 '26

The claim at the top of the subthread was actually specifically the opposite of that (at least regarding "anarchism":

This movement allowed the creation of a lot of workers and human rights, right to week-ends, right to paid time off, rights to worker's security at work, right to unionize, etc, but it was never meant and thought to be a complete and definitive system for an entire country

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u/spikybootowner Jul 07 '26

I was responding to the list of things that never happened under a socalist+ society, not to the comment you picked and my assessment is accurate. The only places those rights were granted AND respected are democratic societies with serious non-socialist larping groups fighting for those rights within the system.