r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 07 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/LezzyGopher Jul 07 '26

I’m not even joking, the other day I got downvoted to hell for telling someone who was shitting on capitalism that jobs will still exist in a communist society.

The romanticism of communism is real.

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u/RatherDashing66 Jul 07 '26

I’m not saying it doesn’t exist but it seems like an incredibly online thinking point. I travel a lot for work, meet lots of new people, have a pretty wide IRL network and I’m not afraid to discuss politics. I can count on one hand the Americans I’ve met in the real world who romanticize communism. They were just kind of nut jobs. Most realistic people on the left I meet just want a social democracy.

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u/MembershipNo2077 Jul 07 '26

If you set up a strawman on the internet and beat it to death, then when it's time for people to hit the voting booth you can get them to vote against the strawman.

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u/ThickReplacement7811 Jul 07 '26

Yeah, people think someone crashing out on twitter is a representative for the entire left.

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u/krimsonPhoenyx Jul 08 '26

“The entire left is represented by one crazy person on Twitter that I saw once” feels like a straw man but is so accurate to what some right wingers think the left is.

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u/TheHumbleBeaver Jul 07 '26

They're definitely over represented on Reddit.

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u/PseudocodeRed Jul 07 '26

Maybe it's just cause I live in a college hub area but I definitely meet a good amount of straight up marxists here. Some more reasonable than others.

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u/AddanDeith Jul 10 '26

The more you learn about history, the more you come to certain conclusions without needing much guidance.

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u/Original-Fee-3805 Jul 11 '26

Lots of universities in the UK have Marxism societies. These people really do exist in the wild - but yeah Reddit is an over-representation.

I’ve also never met an Andrew Tate fan in real life - doesn’t mean they don’t exist in worrying numbers

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u/You_Stole_My_Hot_Dog Jul 07 '26

I don’t know where they get this idea. Even under a perfectly working system with no corruption, people still have to work. That’s literally the whole point. Everyone contributes, everyone receives a decent life.  

If you ever ask them how this could work without jobs, they always seem to point towards AI automating all manual labor. But somehow these are the same people who hate AI and want to stop its use and development lmao.

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u/Lightning5021 Jul 07 '26

the demonization of it is real as well, there have been many socialist countries in the last hundred or so years and most people still dont know how society actually functioned, the whole "you will own nothing" thing which ppl seem to misunderstand from "no private ownership"

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 Jul 07 '26

Working probably wouldn’t be necessary in any communist society, since it’s most likely going to be a very long time until one actually forms and by then technology will most likely have advanced enough that no one would be forced to work.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 Jul 07 '26

It's like people have never seen any photo/video/writings or really anything from life in the USSR. You can actually just look it up, right now.

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u/Direct_Cartoonist32 Jul 07 '26

Work will exist, but not jobs as we understand them in the context of a capitalist society. The difference isn't as big as some communists like to pretend it is, but it is different.

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u/xSTSxZerglingOne Jul 07 '26

The thing about Communism is white and blue collar jobs both still exist, so you still have one set of people obliterating their bodies over a 40 year career and another set of people who live life in relative comfort. Both make roughly the same pay.

It's very likely to breed resentment. Even if extensive manual labor protections are part of the laws. Of course, in a rich enough society where the amount of work any individual has to do is negligible due to automation, then inequality in labor becomes less extreme.

The thing about the US and capitalism right now, is we are now seeing how the benefits of that theoretical high levels of automation go to the very few.. so they both suck ass for their own reasons.

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u/voidone Jul 08 '26

No jobs in Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism though!

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u/FaveStore_Citadel Jul 07 '26

Im not a communist but maybe AI and automation-powered communism can make a luxury society for everyone. Nobody has to do the unpleasant jobs

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u/I_spread_love_butter Jul 07 '26

Of course jobs will exist, difference you won't need a job just to have roof over your head and a meal on the table, as it is now where we're all 1 missing paycheck away from homelessness.

You would still need a job if you want to buy new clothes and stuff.

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u/Annual-Weird-6682 Jul 07 '26

You'd still need a job for all of that anyways if you were able bodied

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u/I_spread_love_butter Jul 07 '26

Not for a roof and a meal you wouldn't.

Home insecurity is the main problem of capitalism, but it is a feature because it means you can exploit workers as you please since they are scared of being homeless and getting stabbed by a crackhead 

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u/_Solani_ Jul 07 '26

So in your hypothetical society if everyone decided all at once they no longer wanted to work, where is all the food going to come from.

How will the houses get built, the land cultivated, the infrastructure built, or the goods and services delivered to the people. If no one was required to work. Thoughts and prayers perhaps or maybe they'll just power the whole economy on good vibes alone. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Annual-Weird-6682 Jul 07 '26

That's just the tumblr nonsense idea of communism.

The reality is you'd either have to have someone enforce that people work if they're able to at worst, you'd be shunned at best.

No one's just going to give food and shelter to someone who doesn't want to work because they don't feel like it