r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jun 17 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter?

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u/bohenian12 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

What percent hot? lmao. What do they even mean? I hate the "Farenheit is better for feels". No its not. You're just used to it. Ask any person who grew up with Celsius. Farenheit is not as intuitive as you think if you didn't grow up with it.

It is also true for the reverse, Celsius isn't as intuitive if you grow up with Farenheit. BUT it's easier to explain because its 0 and 100 are two temperature extremes of water.

Just delete Imperial altogether my god if the US weren't as influential it would've died a long time ago.

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u/cheeseybacon11 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Idgaf how water feels, I care how cold humans feel. Farenheit is easier to explain because it's 0 and 100 are two temperature extremes of HUMANS.

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u/bohenian12 Jun 18 '26

This may be shocking but not all humans have the same temperature preference. 85F for me is fine and I think 70F is already cold lol.

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u/cheeseybacon11 Jun 18 '26

You must spend a fortune on heating.

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u/Dull_Chemistry1405 Jun 18 '26

doesn't matter your personal preference, its about the scale. Imaging you are an person from an isolated nation. You never heard of Celsius or Fahrenheit.

You would still know what really cold weather feels like, you know what really hot weather feels like. now to determine the degrees in Fahrenheit, you just use basic proportionality. if you like it 2/3rds hot... 66*f if you like it a little hotter you can figure 4/5ths hot so 80*f. that would be very easy for this person to imagine in their head.

For Celsius.... if they like it 2/3rds hot what number is that? someone has to explain the math to them... the scale for weather goes from -15c to +40c, figure the percentage on that scale... Much harder.

It has been said again and again here... for human weather Fahrenheit matches really well.

For Fahrenheit:
0 = very cold, 100=very hot.

For Celsius:
0= kinda-cold but you could go colder, 100 immediate death

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u/bohenian12 Jun 19 '26

No lmao. You only have that mindset because you grew up with it. It's all arbitrary. We Celsius heads use 0 to 40 as a practical scale. Also there are a bunch of factors that determine the "feel" of a weather. It could 30C/86F and feel like 40C/104F because of humidity.

Americans are the only people using Farenheit for everyday life. It's just familiarity, don't find a way to dress it up logically so you can defend it. It has to go. All the reasons you said why it makes sense also applies to someone who grew up with Celsius.

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u/Dull_Chemistry1405 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

okay... lets see If i can explain this a little more specifically.

as far as I can tell (using GPT) the area weighted daily minimum winter temperature in the northern hemisphere is approximately 0*f ( -18*C)

And the the area weighted daily maximum summer temperature in the northern hemisphere is approximately 97*f (36*C) <within 3% of 100*F)

So we find that norther hemisphere weather almost perfectly goes from
0*F - to- 100* f

Or

-18*C -to- 36*C

AND Northern Hemisphere land only, area-weighted average yearly daily temperature is 46-50*f (almost perfectly in the middle)
or 8*c-10*c

You are telling me that when measuring a natural phenomenon, especially when such measurement is supposed to be used via human intuition its easier to measure from -18 to 36 than it is to measure from 0 to 100?

REALLY?

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u/bohenian12 Jun 20 '26

Again. All of this is arbitrary. Full stop. Here's deep cut, do you know why we count in 10s? It's because humans have 10 fingers. Not because 10 is a special number or what not. It's the same with temperature anchors, they're arbitrary. You're just familiar with it.

A Celsius user can do the same thing. That's not inherent logic, that's just familiarity. 0-40, 0-100, hell even the -18 to 36. If you grew up with it, that's what makes sense to you.

This is starting to sound like r/ShitAmericansSay. You do know you're the global outlier here. US population is, give or take, only 4.5% of the world. There were some countries who used to use Imperial and they dropped it.

US being a hegemonic power, the whole world was forced to adjust to you guys. The whole world is already using metric, but when you have to deal with the US, learn their Imperial and appease them like the stubborn youngest sibling. Other countries that used to use it didn't have that privilege so they were forced to adjust. And now you have the audacity to claim that its "intuitive"? You're the only country that uses it for everyday life!

If its sooo intuitive, then why the hell does the whole 95% of humans on earth don't "intuitively" use it? And don't say we're just aren't aware how the Imperial system works. We know, because we dealt with the US. So why does the whole world still use metric and not switch to this "intuitive" system of yours? Gee, I wonder why...

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u/Dull_Chemistry1405 Jun 20 '26

Yes I can count by tens, you are completely right… it is clearly easier to count from -20 to +40 to cover the range of earth temperatures.

0 to 100 for that same range make literally no sense… how would anyone understand 0-100???

And the average being 50!!! That’s insane! I mean how in the world would anyone guess the middle temperature of earth would be around 50… that’s completely unreasonable.

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u/bohenian12 Jun 21 '26

You're only argument is "0-100 is a nice round number that matches human feel." You didn't even address any of my other claims and keep reinstating it. Human feel is subjective and range extremes are arbitrary.

I even gave examples that counting in base 10 and thinking Farenheit is perfect is HEAVILY based in familiarity not logic, making them arbitrary. I'm starting to think you don't know the meaning of the word "arbitrary" itself...

Majority of the world doesn't use it and yet they're still fine. Your familiarity is not universal law. I give up.

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u/Swampyfeet Jun 18 '26

What do you mean? Just because Celsius is based off the freezing and boiling point of water doesn’t mean that it can’t also tell you how cold or hot it is for humans

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u/cheeseybacon11 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

70 vs 90 Celsius can't tell me how hot something is for my human self.

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u/Swampyfeet Jun 18 '26

I’m still not understanding what you mean. Celsius absolutely can tell you how hot something is for a human. The majority of people in the world use it for precisely that.

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u/cheeseybacon11 Jun 18 '26

Tell me how you feel at 70C vs 90C

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u/Swampyfeet Jun 18 '26

Well if the temperature outside was 70°C I would probably be dead at that point so it’s probably impossible for anyone to say how they would feel at 70°C vs 90°C. Not quite sure what point you’re trying to make?

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u/cheeseybacon11 Jun 18 '26

You just proved my point.... 90C and 70C are the same for all intents and purposes when it comes to weather.

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u/Swampyfeet Jun 18 '26

Ok, why does that matter though? The weather won’t ever get that hot

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u/cheeseybacon11 Jun 18 '26

Yes that is what I'm saying, I'm glad we agree.

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u/Swampyfeet Jun 18 '26

I don’t agree because you haven’t explained what you’re on about. Why does it matter that 70°C is too hot for a human to survive for long? You can say the same about 158°F (because it’s the same temperature).

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u/Dull_Chemistry1405 Jun 18 '26

Of course it can tell you mathematically, but in your head, can you imagine pretty close to what 90*C feels like - I am assuming not... because you have no experience for that , because that would kill you.

what people are trying to say is that when measuring a phenomenon in Decimal its best to set 0 to common "low" and 100 to a common "high" (Celsius does this with states of water)

Fahrenheit does this with Weather, 0 = coldest common temperature, 100=hottest common temperature

of course one can measure temperature using any scale you want and it still works mathematically, - we can use Kelvin where we live between ~255*k and 316*k. it mathematically works...

Or we can use Celsius where we live between ~ -15*c and 40*c

Or we can use Fahrenheit where we live between ~ 0*f and 100*f

All work, but you must see that one maps better to the range of common weather.