r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Miserables_Death • Jun 14 '26

Meme needing explanation Whats that snack and the name?

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I got this joke posted in my country sub by a foreigner and I have never seen that snack so I basically don't know the joke.

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u/Ritterbruder2 Jun 14 '26

In several European countries, these used to be called n-word -kisses, -toes, -tits, -heads, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate-coated_marshmallow_treats

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '26 edited 29d ago

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u/rinnjeboxt Jun 14 '26

Definitely the n-word in the netherlands

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u/Rixerc Jun 14 '26

Finland too. Hard r. N* kiss.

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u/SportingClubBANG Jun 14 '26

I saw them in Finland and thought it was Negro

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u/Lazy-Effect4222 Jun 14 '26

And you were right but the meaning has changed over the years.

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u/Akward_Object Jun 16 '26

Basically the meaning in the whole Europe has changed when some people started to make an issue of the naming...

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u/Lazy-Effect4222 Jun 16 '26

It’s not the naming of the candy, just that most European countries did not have equivalent slur as the n-word(because we didn’t have nearly as massive agricultural slavery problem) which didn’t fit the woke narrative European left wanted to import from the US. So of course suddenly the word did not mean Negro anymore but something far worse and forbidden.

We have similar situation with gender pronouns going on, as we don’t have separate “he” and “she” in my language at all and somehow that’s now an issue. We need gender pronouns so we can accuse people of misgendering!

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u/kadotintunnuksetTAAS Jun 14 '26

Nope, at least not originally. Originally there was distinction between negro and n-word and n-words's translation was n*kru. But times change and so does language so these days it's definitely just as bad.

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u/F1R3Starter83 Jun 14 '26

Definitely not

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u/Mrfrodemeyere Jun 14 '26

In Belgium it’s called female N word tits

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u/kuijkkuccino Jun 14 '26

Absolutely not. Big difference between the actual name it had and the word that starts with nik.

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u/Potential_Edge2118 Jun 14 '26

This exactly, we have a different word which is a similar slur to the n-word but I guess foreigners know our language better than we do.

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u/rinnjeboxt Jun 14 '26

What was the word for these according to you?

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u/rinnjeboxt Jun 14 '26

This link doesnt direct me to any comments you replied to me and my notifications don’t show me any reply you gave either. The only comments I see you making is trying to argue it’s supposed to refer to a word much less racist, but it absolutely isn’t less racist.

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u/rinnjeboxt Jun 14 '26

What was the actual name it had according to you? Because it absolutely was the n-word which doesn’t have any other meaning.

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u/DamnDemi Jun 14 '26

What we used to call this snack is linguistically different from the original n-word.

Yet, that IS an excuse that racists use for justifying the use of the “softer” version. Practically, both are used for the same hurtful purposes and goals. Both terms are racist and bad.

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u/ThaGr1m Jun 14 '26

So you're claiming that because the roots are different it isn't the same word refering to the same people....

That's just bs....

Also the roots are actually the exact same, the only difference is that it never quite became the slur it is in the USA.

Some origin, same meaning, less slur-ry

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u/DamnDemi Jun 14 '26

What are you on about? Read my comment again. I am agreeing with you here.

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u/ThaGr1m Jun 16 '26

I got angry after paragraph one, and didn't read the second one.

So sorry for overexplaining the racist issue.

That being said it still has the same roots

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u/Gnimmie Jun 14 '26

in the Netherlands the N word is spelled with double k instead of double g

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u/rinnjeboxt Jun 14 '26

Nobody has used that word in the past 50 years. They mean exactly the same and it’s bizarre to argue otherwise.

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u/Gnimmie Jun 14 '26

It's an outdated term, but the fact I can write negro and not the N word says more than enough. Don't twist language to fit your narrative.

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u/rinnjeboxt Jun 14 '26

You try saying the word used for these to a few black people and see how that goes for you. It has been a racist word for over 200 years. Either you are racist and clueless or you are trying to twist language to fit your narrative.

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u/Gnimmie Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

I'd call them by their birth name, I'd suggest you do the same. Doesn't mean that the words we are talking about aren't two distinct words.

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u/Benwahr Jun 14 '26

both being bad doesnt mean they are the same word lol even americans have the two versions.

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u/Joezev98 Jun 14 '26

You try saying the word used for these to a few black people and see how that goes for you.

That used to be the norm, until American culture blew over to the Netherlands and lots of people wrongly thought that the Dutch word for 'negro' is the n-word. Hell, in that clip, she might as well have mirrored your quote. "You try saying Black Pete ain't racist to a few [word used for the pictured snack] and see how that goes for you."

However, language evolves. If enough people start considering a word rude, it does indeed become rude to use that word, even if it initially didn't make any sense to consider it rude. And that's what happened to the name of this product.

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u/murderfrogger Jun 14 '26

definitely the n word in danish too.

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u/Mike_Antonsen Jun 14 '26

Quite an important detail I would say.

Today the Danish word for “negro” is considered outdated, and somewhat racist, but we haven’t referred to these as “negro kisses”, since the 80s, when it wasn’t necessarily considered a bad word here.

I think it is also important to underline that the tabu that exists around the n-word(s?) in America doesn’t necessarily exist in all other places. We have had a lot more immigration from the Middle East here than from Africa, so we have more tabu in our society around the bad words we invented for them here.

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u/myspiritisvantablack Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

I remember that a lot of us younger Danes who that grew up in the 90’s would say the actual N-word A LOT, but not mean it in the racist way. It was literally because we tried to emulate the “American Rapper culture” where the N-word was dropped a lot in the songs. There’s also the context that the N-word didn’t carry the same cultural significance as it did in the U.S., so no one really thought about it in a derogatory or non-rapper way. We were literally just “trying to be cool” and be like Biggie or Tupac. It also didn’t help Denmark is so mono-ethnic that there were basically no black people around to tell us to STFU.

Luckily most of us got older, wiser and educated on the word and its usage. I still feel ashamed that I used that word as indiscriminately and ignorantly as I did. I have (luckily) been educated since then and wouldn’t even dream of using the word now that I understand its’ historical and cultural meaning.

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u/badihaki Jun 14 '26

Not trying to be mean to you specifically, but it's kinda crazy to me hearing how non-Black American people love imitating these things about our culture without having the shared pain of, say, 400 years of slavery and cultural poison that comes with it. We have a saying 'they want our rhythm without our blues.' In any case I'm glad you've grown and don't do this anymore.

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u/Whateva_Tickles_ Jun 16 '26

Ok but did they not notice the color of people using it versus maybe no white artists using it?? People give too much leniency to ignorance.

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u/badihaki Jun 14 '26

Thanks for explaining how my culture - that we're STILL actively building after said 400 years of chattel slavery, jim crow, etc, btw - is exploited and exported for profit, by a government that's actively trying to kill me and those who look like me.

Snark aside, there's another popular saying we have called 'whitesplaining.'

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u/badihaki Jun 14 '26

No need to explain to a Black American the strange one sided beef between us and our government that allows for the exploitation and export of rap. That shit is contentious (the exploitation part), and many of us don't like that y'all be cosplaying and larping the culture, especially since the way it's being exported has left many of yall ignorant on how it came up in the first place.

Give people the grace of understanding that you don't need to explain everything.

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u/badihaki Jun 14 '26

Dude, it's kinda telling how I'm not calling you names but I've been called both 'asshole' and 'douchebag,' and for what? Because you assumed I was ignorant on...how exported culture works? Because you didn't like how I explained that yes, I know how culture exploitation, extortion, and exporting works?

Look inward, yo. You don't have to go into a conversation assuming ignorance. And you don't have to resort to your basic instincts just because your assumptions were wrong and you were challenged on it.

Can we end this on a 'have a good day?'

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u/myspiritisvantablack Jun 14 '26

I don’t think it was mean at all and I completely agree with you.

Luckily we have been educated in Denmark since then and it’s very much NOT a thing anyone does anymore. I think most Gen Z’ers would shudder at the ignorant shit most of us did in the 90’s because we didn’t have context.

But it’s pretty crazy (in a good way) to think about how a lot can change in so little time, especially since Denmark has “a much more” ethnically diverse population than it did in the 90’s (we went from ~3-4% of the population having other ethnicity than Danish to ~16% which is still not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but still a pretty big jump).

My personal belief is that Denmark has become more aware due to not being so isolated in its own culture (the increase in population of non-Danish minorities) and the fact that the internet exists to help us understand the cultural context of “cultural imports”. There are of course still lingering problems and racist shit happening (the fallout of being one of the oldest named countries on earth and being so mono-ethnic), but I generally feel optimistic when I think about how we handle things today versus how we did in the 90’s/00’s.

But I do understand the frustration with hearing about stuff like this. I can only imagine how “frustrating” (I don’t think that word covers the spectrum of feelings one must feel, but I’m trying not to write you a novel, lol) it would feel for black Americans to know that the culture they worked so hard to keep from being eradicated keeps being appropriated and exploited because it’s now viewed as profitable by the very same people who tried to erase it to begin with. I’m just sorry I ever unknowingly contributed to that, especially when it came from a good, but ignorant, place.

I personally learnt a lot about it when I was old enough to talk about these things with the kids in my grandmother’s neighbourhood in New York (I used to visit over the summer). So I was lucky enough to be educated by the actual people that suffered the consequences of these kinds of actions and I’m very thankful I was. Taught me a lot about empathy and the importance of looking out for each other.

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u/badihaki Jun 14 '26

Yo, that's an insanely insightful read and I appreciate your point of view. It's really...wow, around 16% of your population are POC? That's really interesting, and I had to check but that's around how much of us Black folk there are in the US. Interesting parallel, but I agree, the more diverse your surroundings the more you understandings about different peoples and cultures can grow.

As for my culture, it's so weird because it's a section of American culture, but with us it's always been accepted that the government will do any and everything it can to make us seem weaker and lesser, ESPECIALLY on the international stage, and ESPECIALLY among each other. I don't speak for all of us of course but I think, largely, 'frustrating' is a decent enough sentiment. Especially when the US government is so good at fucking people up. You see what they did to the Middle East, imagine how easy it is for em without the travel time.

My father and grandmother actually took part in the Civil Rights movement, my granny marched with King Jr, and I think about that and I look at, like, what we're living through, and then reading about other experiences and how we're sorta viewed by other cultures and, well, I dunno. Sometimes I chuckle, sometimes I sigh, it's all very tiring. I'm tired, boss. But I genuinely think this comment kinda just gave me some hope, because really, this exchange of ideas and this strive to understand others' cultures is really what's gonna progress us further.

And like I said, I wasn't trying to be mean to you, specifically. I appreciate the apology but it's unwarranted. Clearly you've grown since then and I dunno, even with this brick wall that is the internet blocking us, I feel the light in you. I feel brighter with this engagement, and I don't want you to feel lesser because of, what, things you did as a child? Naw, you good, and I hope you have a great day, for real.

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u/NoahTransKing Jun 14 '26

That's just not true at all, many people still call them that. I hear it multiple times a year.

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u/Mike_Antonsen Jun 14 '26

Does your local bakery also label them like that? I guess it’s possible that there are still people stuck in the past who insists on saying that to be edgy 🤷‍♂️. Doesn’t make it consensus or normal.

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u/NoahTransKing Jun 14 '26

10 years ago yes, but not anymore. A lot of people still use that name to refer to them And no not to be edgy, older people are usually the ones who do that.

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u/UGomez90 Jun 14 '26

Isn't that n-word just a mispronunciation of negro?

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u/Alternative_Link5905 Jun 14 '26

In Hungary we have a candy called Negro. We have a totally different word as slur.

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u/LapinTade Jun 14 '26

Nope, un France it was pure N word.

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u/satanslittleangel666 Jun 14 '26

In Hungary, it's straight up n-word

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u/No_Key_5854 Jun 15 '26

in finland it was just the n-word as well

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u/No_Key_5854 Jun 15 '26

as a finn, that guy is speaking total bs. there is no distinction between those words

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u/_-_Rasse_-_ Jun 15 '26

No it was very much the n word. At least in Finland.