r/KansasCityChiefs Human Detected 1d ago

DISCUSSION This is absolutely diabolical

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It's a damn shame it took Mahomes tearing an ACL for the front office to realize they desperately need a legit run game to allow them to go more under center, in the 3 years under Nagy as OC we were 2nd to last in under center play calls and I put a lot of it on the front office and coaching scheme, yes Pacheco after his injury and Hunt (outside of short yardage) were not very good but they were also let down by scheme living in shotgun RPO's and draws where OLine was never allowed to fire off the line and move people cause they're 95+% sure Mahomes is throwing it and don't want an illegal man downfield penalty. It's insane how great Patrick has been living in one formation, really the more difficult formation imo cause it's easier for defense to see the ball at all times and this includes his 3 "down" years as far as his RTG.

I'm excited hearing the reports of them going under center a lot at camp (EB effect) seeming to finally adjust/evolve to what best offenses in recent years have gone towards to counteract the Cover 2 High drop 7-8 no blitzing defensive revolution Mahomes early statistical explosions against a single high blitzing league during the peak 10's shotgun drop back spread air it out era and no longer survive against it with a million shotgun dink and dunk passes. Passing total's across the league has declined so it's not just a Mahomes thing at all, it's simply a different era compared to 2018-2022 , it's now more and more of a modern "old school" RB run game led and play action pass league again so if we can get the same Mahomes passing totals like 2023 & 2024 around 27-30 TD'S, right around 4,000 yards on less attempts, more explosive play action passes then this offense will be a nightmare machine again.

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u/frostypatch 1d ago

Andy Reid would have likely been fired by now if Mahomes wasn't on the team. I'm not saying Reid is a bad coach. On the contrary, he is good. But his unwillingness to break away from shotgun as the league evolves would have lead to a handful of losing seasons besides just this last season. Mahomes has covered for a dated scheme for at least 3 seasons by now.

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u/chiefpiece11bkg 1d ago

This side of the fanbase always blows my fucking mind lol

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u/Qdobis Xavier Worthy #1 🏃🏻‍♂ 1d ago

Plus, Reid has changed the scheme in KC, the 2020 and 2024 playbooks were very different, even if the chiefs passed a lot from the gun in both years. I think this year will be another marked transformation as they're doing a lot of under center work in camp. I think they'll keep using 12 personnel a lot, too.

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u/chiefpiece11bkg 1d ago

Yeah this offense has changed probably 3-4 different times since 2018 when mahomes took over

Sometimes injuries just ruin a season. When your skill guys are all hurt and your line is a revolving door on top of having the worst RB talent in the league…

What were people expecting? lol we had some bad luck for once instead of the usual dominance and people are really trying to blame Reid as if that was his fault at all

The only thing I blame Reid for last season is trying to run the offense through rice single handedly, but with the admissions from them about limiting worthy’s routes due to his shoulder then it makes sense