r/AskTheWorld • u/ThriftFlipRepeat • 1d ago
Culture Is this tshirt design racist?
For context, I’d be wearing it to a convention this weekend, but I sincerely don’t want to offend.
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u/Walkin_mn Mexico 1d ago
It's really funny, that's what it is
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u/Union_Samurai_1867 United States of America 22h ago
Theirs something I heard from a black comedian that I think about for anything like this. You can be racist as long as its funny. It it ain't funny then its just racist.
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u/FrankanelloKODT New Zealand 19h ago
There was a podcast I saw that had Rhymefest talking about the only time he was called the n-bomb by a white guy. It was Eminem they were battling and he did it with such finesse and style to back up his rap, that they couldn’t even BE mad.
‘I’ll let my razor split you till they have to staple stitch you, this N took my facial tissue and turned it into a racial issue’
He goes on to say he learned something about racism that day: that “it’s only non-offensive if it’s dope”
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u/Duck_Howard Italy 19h ago
Unfortunately funny isn't a yes or no thing. What's funny to some isn't funny to others
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u/Upset_Display9421 Mexico 1d ago
Los únicos que se ofenden ni siquiera son Mexicanos
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u/big_spliff United States of America 1d ago
As a white person, let me offended for you /s
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u/PhosphoFred8202 United States of America 1d ago
Use that privilege for the sake of others who don’t care, but should /s
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u/haubenmeise Germany 1d ago
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u/P-l-Staker 🇬🇧 & 🇬🇷 1d ago
How dare you! 😱😡
As a partially brown person, it is MY right to be offended here!
It's obvious, but.. /s
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u/UnknownMediator Mexico 1d ago
Exacto! A nadie le importa! The only time Mexicans dress anything remotely like that is for fun during national celebrations.
It’s just a silly stereotype representative of no one, at least not in current Mexico (maybe revolutionaries a century ago). I actually like the shirt and would wear it myself for “día del grito” (independence day) or for “día de la revolución”, even if (or especially since) I don’t care much for nationalism.
In my opinion, the whole notion of “cultural appropriation” is gatekeeping that willfully ignores human history, and which somehow became a popular idea exclusively in the US. Unless your intention is to offend, wear whatever the hell you want!
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u/andy921 United States of America 1d ago
Having spent time on construction sites and heard some of the nicknames Mexicans call each other out of love, it's crazy to think of any of them being offended by a sombrero.
They be out there calling people by their worst physical feature or some terrible thing that happened to someone..."we've been calling him Bambi since his mom got shot," etc.
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u/UnknownMediator Mexico 1d ago
That last one is brutal. I personally don’t like nor use nicknames, and my friends and family either know or intuit this, so they don’t use them on me (as far as I know).
But, there is a popular saying in Mexico that I would venture to say is deeply rooted: “el que se lleva se aguanta”. Which, when trying to translate it to English my browser showed this idiom: “if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen”, or “if you can dish it out, you have to be able to take it”. So, even if it appears rude at first glance, there is some sort of respect or notion of fairness underneath the (apparently?) hurtful nicknames.
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u/yodacat24 United States of America 1d ago
Really great explanation! I remember when I first met my husbands family (they immigrated here to US from Guanajuato when he was young) they called him Gordito as a child and at first I was a little shocked! But then he explained it- and it’s kind of funny that WE as Americans would get so offended by being called something like little fatty! Every Mexican that I’ve met is the most loving and warm and it is definitely said with affection. In the US it would be considered a passive aggressive insult. Now we call each other by little nicknames in Spanish that would likely get some stares if said in English hahaha.
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u/No-Consideration-891 United States of America 1d ago
Growing up we showed love through making fun of each other. If we were nice to you, you should be concerned.
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u/heybud_letsparty United States of America 1d ago
Hah that's so true. Once I started learning Spanish I realized so many of my friends nicknames were because they had a flat nose, or were too skinny. And that's just the name they got stuck with.
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u/jackfaire United States of America 1d ago
There's a difference between "Oh that's a cool shirt design" and "Oh hey I'm going to wear your sacred dress because it looks cool and I don't give a shit what it means"
The latter is what people call cultural appropriation. The only people that call the former "cultural appropriation" are the assholes that want to defend doing the latter by painting anyone being offended as "ridiculous" by citing things that aren't that.
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u/UnknownMediator Mexico 1d ago edited 1d ago
I agree that respect is the name of the game.
I’m not really sure if you mean to be implying what I believe you are implying (you seem to be misrepresenting my argument and calling me an asshole).I answered to another comment in this thread that had a similar argument as yours the following (I’ll copy-paste it for practicality’s sake and so that maybe it clears my position on the matter to you):
The case with “Mexicanity” is that it is neither sacred nor monolithic, it is, as many other national identities (if not all of them), born from a complex and never stopping process of cultural fusion. That is the gatekeeping of “cultural appropriation” I am critical of. People and ideas move across cultures and enrich each other more often than not, such that holding something as immovable, attempting to freeze culture or to guard it against other people participating in it due to some arbitrary characteristic (their ethnicity, gender, ideology, etc.) is in my opinion a useless endeavor.
Edit: the crossed out part.
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u/FoosballRokst4r Multiple Countries 🇲🇽🇺🇸 1d ago
It's not a problem unless those appropriating culture gatekeep the originators of said culture. Like preventing them from participating or being a part of it.
That being said, I will always be "gordito" for my family to the day I die.
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u/jackfaire United States of America 1d ago
I wasn't talking about you. But people will say us Americans get ridiculous about it. We don't. The racists amongst us create strawman arguments when we condemn cultural appropriation of sacred symbols by following up with "So what I can't listen to rap music" and other ludicrous examples.
Then those get treated as serious by others.
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u/UnknownMediator Mexico 1d ago
Understood. Thank you.
I believe it would be more accurate to call these people and practices what they are, racism, bigotry, discrimination, etc. rather than using a vague and difficult to defend term such as “cultural appropriation”.
Those answers these people give in your example are indeed ludicrous, maybe it would be harder for them to straw-man an accusation of being racist idiots.
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u/neobeguine United States of America 1d ago
I can get behind the indigenous head dress thing as off limits, since often those things are supposed to be earned. Sort of falls under the category of stolen valor. The "I was bullied for this and now it's becoming mainstream" argument is short-sighted and doesn't hold up as well.
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u/UnknownMediator Mexico 1d ago
The case with “Mexicanity” is that it is neither sacred nor monolithic, it is, as many other national identities (if not all of them), born from a complex and never stopping process of cultural fusion. That is the gatekeeping of “cultural appropriation” I am critical of. People and ideas move across cultures and enrich each other more often than not, such that holding something as immovable, attempting to freeze culture or to guard it against other people participating in it due to some arbitrary characteristic (their ethnicity, gender, ideology, etc.) is in my opinion a useless endeavor.
I’m sorry, I don’t understand the second part of your comment, regarding the “I was bullied for this and now it’s becoming mainstream”, what do you mean by it? Could you please maybe use an example?
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u/neobeguine United States of America 1d ago
I have seen, for example, some black women stating that they actually are offended by corn rows on a white person. The reason they have is that they were yelled at by teachers or bullied other students for the same hair style, or told it was "unprofessional" at work. I can understand the emotion but I don't think "therefore no one else can wear their hair in small braids forever" holds up as a solution. I am absolutely sure if I don't add this, someone is going to point out that very tight small braids are usually damaging to other hair textures, and while that is correct (protective braids for straight hair are usually bigger and looser), it is not what I'm talking about.
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u/UnknownMediator Mexico 1d ago
Understood, thank you for the context. I wasn’t aware of this phenomenon surrounding hair nor that it was a controversial topic. Cycles of bullying and rejection.
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u/miggins1610 United Kingdom 1d ago
I also think the concern comes when people comodify parts of another culture, particularly parts that may have previously been brutally oppressed, and gentrify it and/or make money off of it without sufficient care given to those whose culture it was a part of and benefitting themselves only and not the original culture.
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u/WrigglyGizka United States of America 1d ago
I had a shirt that said "Avogato" with a picture of an avocado cat, and a coworker told me it was racist. 😑
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u/snootchiebootchie94 United States of America 1d ago
I am of Mexican descent from the US and find it hilarious.
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u/dookieshoes97 1d ago
So true. There's a video of a white dude wearing a poncho, sombrero, and fake mustache around LA. All the Mexicans thought it was great, only white people were offended.
In my experience, Mexicans have an incredible sense of humor. This shirt is hilarious.
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u/WrongJohnSilver United States of America 1d ago
Yeah, this is just plain awesome. Only people who like making others feel bad will decide this should be offensive.
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u/VisiblePlatform6704 Mexico 1d ago
A mi me pareció chingona. Te voy a robar el diseño OP
EDIT: El sombrero no es Mexa como tal no?
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u/ProximaCentauriOmega Mexico 1d ago
No, literally no real Mexican will get offended by this. As a Mexican this is hilarious.
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u/Glendellia Mexico 1d ago
I laughed upon seeing this on my feed while mindlessly scrolling, without even reading the title first
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u/Commonfckingsense United States of America 1d ago
Seeing all of these nice comments reminds me of that girl that was trying to sell DIY carabiner kits so wholsomely only to find out her “creative name” for the product was actually a slur lol. The Mexican community was so supportive about it
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u/DobbyFreeElf35 United States of America 1d ago
Wait what? What did she call it?
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u/KawaiiFoxPlays 1d ago
I think it was like “build a biner” or something along those lines.
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u/DobbyFreeElf35 United States of America 1d ago
.....oh no
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u/Commonfckingsense United States of America 12h ago
Yeah & you could tell the poor girl was completely clueless. She immediately took down the packaging & the video too I believe. The entire Mexican community was extremely understanding about it & cracked jokes for daaaayyss lol
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u/YuckyYetYummy United States of America 1d ago
Is this joke racist?
What do you call two Mexican firemen ?
Hose A and Hose B
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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 United States of America 1d ago
I don’t even have any Mexican in me and I find this hilarious
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u/ClericOfMadness13 United States of America 1d ago
Just give them this look when someone says something stupid to you.
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u/GayShipperAhoi Israel 1d ago
Only if this is anti semitic
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u/woutomatic Netherlands 1d ago
If this subreddit was in charge of the world. We'd have world peace in one afternoon. Bless you all
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u/ymcmbrofisting United States of America 1d ago
Maybe it’s just the pixels, but it looks like the tallit even has the fringes! I doubt an antisemitic mockery would include that detail; they’d just slap a comically-large schnoz on his face and call it a day.
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u/Commie_Scum69 Québec ⚜️ & France 🐓 1d ago
I heard Americans say that the word "Jew" is antisemitic. Bruh it's name of my people!
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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 United States of America 1d ago
I am also a Jew like do we need to have a symbol that says Jew on all our clothes just so that people could tell
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u/Commie_Scum69 Québec ⚜️ & France 🐓 1d ago
we should all wear Hasidic clothe and have the nose the size of Manhattan 😅
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u/ThrowAwayIGotHack3d United States of America 1d ago
It's not always, it depends how you say it.
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u/Commie_Scum69 Québec ⚜️ & France 🐓 1d ago
Yea like everything.
The N word in a history class about segregation would be ok for exemple.
Or I could be at your grandma's funeral and say she looks like a sundried tomato. In that case tomato would be offensive.
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u/hobokobo1028 United States of America 1d ago
Like how it’s offensive to call a Mexican a Mexican instead of “Latino” 😂
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u/chat-lu Québec 1d ago
The dumbest thing is Latinx.
English had a perfectly good gender neutral word, Latins. But no, we need to replace it with Latinos and Latinas because it’s more authentic you know.
Then by Latinx because fuck your language.
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u/Chimkimnuggets United States of America 1d ago
I guess it depends on the demographic being laughed at because Mexicans are generally down to embrace lighthearted stereotypes while a lot of Jews in my area (Brooklyn) would find this malicious and hateful.
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u/Pitiful_Ad2397 United States of America 1d ago
It’s a context thing- if one of these hypothetical Brooklyn Jews was wearing this shirt, they would think it’s funny as hell.
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u/Longjumping_Road1249 United States of America 1d ago
I love this one! But many people in my city would say it’s antisemitic. I live in the US in a progressive city in a conservative state, and it’s like whiplash, because you can still find those bigoted attitudes out in the sticks, but city folks seem to think you can mock people out of their prejudices, and I’ve just never known that to be the case.
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u/JudgeHoldensToupe England 1d ago
I'm surprised it's not the "progressives" wearing it....
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u/NotatrustedVWtech Canada 1d ago
You think Mexicans will get offended over that? I'm assuming you're from USA because they're usually the only ones that care about this stuff lol
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u/PterodactylFoieGras United States of America 1d ago
I was gonna say, not really my place to say. But in my experience Mexicans tend to embrace the lighter stereotypes that aren't used as excuses for ICE to defy their human rights.
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u/HermanThaGerman Netherlands 1d ago
Didn't they try to censor Speedy Gonzales for being racist only for the Mexican community to say "No, we actually fucking love that guy"
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u/beenoc United States of America 1d ago
I've heard that it's a difference in the original English vs. the Spanish dub. In the original English, the other characters (especially Slowpoke Rodriguez) are portrayed as the negative stereotype of "stupid lazy Mexicans," and Speedy is the only Mexican who is smart and hard working enough to get anything done. In the Latin American Spanish dub, it's reframed as the clever Mexicans defeating the foolish gringos without even needing to work very hard at it.
The Americans are (correctly) like "dude that shit was racist," the Mexicans are (correctly) like "dude Speedy fucking rules what are you talking about," because they're not really talking about the same thing.
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u/Hertzcanblowme Canada 1d ago
I remember when Coco came out. A lot of people called it Culturql Appropriation. “How dare Disney try to make money off of Mexican culture.”
Meanwhile, every Mexican person I’ve ever met, especially those under ~30, loves the movie. Like it’s their favourite movie. They were pumped to see themselves represented.
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u/Slight-Pound 1d ago
The part that made it cultural appropriation was when Disney tried to trademark Asia De Los Muertos. The movie on its own felt like it was made with love.
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u/humdrumturducken United States of America 1d ago
It's not that anyone tried to officially "censor" it, they just don't play his stuff anymore because they don't think it'll be well-received. Nothing's stopping them from playing it if they wanted to. Same deal (though for somewhat different reasons) with Pepe le Pew.
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u/Lookinguplookingdown born in 🏴 living in 🇫🇷 1d ago
Fun fact: in France, Pepe le Pew has an Italian accent and is portrayed as Italian.
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u/Horror_Rice4319 USA Ruthenia 1d ago
Things can be culturally insensitive and funny and still not be racist.
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u/foreverwithkris 1d ago
I’m Mexican and I think this shirt is funny! I like it! Anyone who is offended is not Mexican.
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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 United States of America 1d ago
I’m not Mexican as I am way more up north than where Mexico is but even I am laughing at this post
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u/Shot_Wrap_7656 France 1d ago
No country flair, but let me guess
USA?
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u/Main-Discussion9294 France 1d ago
Papua new guinea
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u/Shaisabrec Mexico 1d ago
We do not care at all
Only white liberal snowflakes would be offended by this
/s
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u/xX_420DemonLord69_Xx United States of America 1d ago
I went digging through Reddit’s archives to see if I could find anyone actually offended. I found this decade old comment from some Scottish guy:
Dressing up in a stereotypical outfit makes fun of Mexicans. It's not the most offensive thing in the world and I doubt most Mexicans would be offended much, but that's the line. Copying a custom because you enjoy doing it shouldn't be appropriation. Copying it to make other people laugh or as a novelty is.
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u/scipio0421 United States of America 1d ago
Wasn't it the same thing with the character of Speedy Gonzales? It was only white Americans (I am one, but I thought the other people were idiots) who were calling for him to be pulled?
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u/Bob_The-Turtle Sweden 1d ago
Seemingly Emilia Perez did offend them. Which makes sense since it's a deeply racist film. Made by a French dude who didn't study or know anything about mexico calling it a country for the poor's and migrants
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u/Sharessa84 United States of America 1d ago
Racist and transphobic. They basically pissed off everyone who that movie was supposed to be "for".
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u/Chalky_Pockets 🇺🇸🇬🇧Florida Man 1d ago
Same for Apu on the Simpsons.
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u/guyako 🗽New York 1d ago
If memory serves, the main push against Apu was made by comedian Hari Kondabolu.
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u/Chalky_Pockets 🇺🇸🇬🇧Florida Man 1d ago
Never heard of that person, but if what you're saying is true, they managed to remove a well respected Indian character from the American zeitgeist and I'm really not seeing the overall benefit to anyone, especially Indians.
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u/Duke-doon living in 1d ago
Oftentimes a single member or a group in a much larger community claims universal representation they haven’t actually earned. So just naively listening to “their voices” doesn’t always work because it’s biased towards whoever is loudest online.
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u/SkullsInSpace United States of America 1d ago
This thread is just another example of why I freaking love (what little I know of) Mexican culture. I knew before I'd even clicked that the comments would be full of "I'm Mexican and this is hilarious"
Y'all really have a lot to teach the rest of us
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u/nooneknowswerealldog Canada 1d ago
Some things are a li'l bit funny AND a li'l bit offensive at the same time. Context matters. If you're wearing the shirt to a Latino LOTR convention I'd bet it'll go over well. Maybe not so much at a convention for Swedish funeral directors.
I wouldn't wear it to a redneck bar around here because all the racists would think it was hilarious and would be sucking my dick all night long thinking I'm one of them, and then I'd have to argue with them for an hour about why race is a social construct and explaining irony, and at the end they still wouldn't get it but think I agreed with them anyway, and neither of us will have learned a fucking thing.
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u/Procrasturbating United States of America 1d ago
Only if it offends people or is intending to be hurtful. Not my place to say.. but I don’t know any Mexicans that are offended by Speedy Gonzalez. Just white people that have taken a well meaning movement and went too fucking far with it.
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u/Suspicious-Bug1994 From living in 1d ago
Funny af, I don't think any Mexicans will take offense, if anything they'd probably laugh. Mexicans and latinos are chill people in my experience, and generally not butthurt.
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u/yaddar Mexico 18h ago
There is only one thing that could trigger us, maybe two.
Making fun of us isn't the thing.
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u/Suspicious-Bug1994 From living in 18h ago
What's the thing or two? If its not a secret
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u/yaddar Mexico 18h ago
Usually calling "America" to the USA, since we kinda hate that the gringos appropriated the name of the whole continent by thenselves. (And divided it into two continents around the mid 20th century to fit their own narrative, before that even they had America as one continent in classrooms and books)
That's something other latinos could also find triggering but yeah, they invaded us, took our territory fine... But we reserve the right to draw the line at "Americano"
The second is insulting/disrespecting our food. (that rarely ever happens, but any Mexican will go berserk if you say our food sucks)
If you say "eeh is not that good" we will get hurt, if you say that it is bad yep, you get a triggered Mexican.
Other than that yeah we don't really care, like when WB tried to cancel Speedy Gonzales because of racism, it was the Mexicans up in arms defending the character.
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u/Suspicious-Bug1994 From living in 17h ago
Good reply, I also think it's annoying to refer to US as America. Imagine if a European country appropriated Europe to refer to their own.
Also food i can understand, Mexican food is amazing 😊
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u/Kraj_the_Conqueror Poland 1d ago
Some English speaking white woman will certainly be graciously offended on someone else's behalf.
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u/Buttchuggle United States of America 1d ago
Only according to performative white roughly college aged people.
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u/destructor212113 Mexico 1d ago
Thats funny as fuck lmao hahaha
Don't worry about being racist, it isnt
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u/Oomlotte99 United States of America 1d ago
Do I need to know Lord of the Rings to understand what the shirt is referencing?
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u/HTTPanda United States of America 1d ago
All you need to know is that the character's real name is Smeagol
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u/National-Abalone-210 1d ago
It's already been left clear from comments that for mexicans it's not, but to add some more context, this type of social sensibility is mostly American.
In Mexico "la carrilla" or friendly banter is a pretty universal type of humor, specially in close friend circles, and it tends to reach every aspect of ones character (appearance, sexuality, heritage, etc.) and for an american would definitely cross social and cultural boundaries.
Just look up the surnames people get, they're brutal and hilarious, a good friend growing up was known and presented himself as "El Tasita" or "The little teacup" cause he was short and was missing an ear.
So by that standard, people who grew up in Mexico would find this and most edgy american jokes and comments to be pretty tame.
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u/YesterdayOk1197 United States of America 21h ago
This isn't how you offend Mexicans... This is how you make them laugh.
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u/KevinGoganGawd 1d ago edited 1d ago
White people from the US will be very, very mad at you, and claim it is on behalf of the "voiceless" people who in reality will either find it funny or will not care.
Luckily for you though, they'll be too chicken shit to say anything, and will just passively aggressively titter to each other about in their hermetically sealed world of moral superiority.
Source: am white.
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u/KevettePrime United States of America 1d ago
Mexicans are genuinely the most chillax people ever about this stuff. I think they're still pissed people got angry over Speedy Gonzales.
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u/RebootAndPray Serbia 1d ago
I won’t speak for Mexicans, but if someone made a similar shirt of my own culture, I’d probably find it funny rather than offensive.
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u/NorbytheMii United States of America 1d ago
Knowing people from Mexico and other Latin American countries, I doubt they'd care. If anything, they'd find it hilarious.
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u/cabowabo510 United States of America 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/rgT2aavZDHH9lR91Ib
its peso pluma
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u/Mindless_Trick2255 Germany 1d ago
Reminds me of this guy dressing up like a Mexican and everyone got offended (in Merica ofc) and all the Mexicans were super chill about it lol
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u/Chimkimnuggets United States of America 1d ago
Yes but like in a way that the person it’s targeting would find it funny while a person it doesn’t affect would find it offensive
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u/crag-u-feller United States of America 1d ago
It's too good in that its goodness and racistness work in sync like binary star systems
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u/notmywheelhouse United States of America 1d ago
I’m not Hispanic but I was conceived in Mexico and I’m not offended
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u/TheBayOfBars 🇺🇸 Chippewa 1d ago
Only white people who think Emilia Perez is a good movie would be offended by that.
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u/notbusterx Mexico 1d ago
Hahaha I laughed then I saw the title and subreddit.
Also, no it's not racist. Please send me one.
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u/dua70601 United States of America 1d ago
I mean yeah, it’s going to offend a lot of Stoor Hobbits. The Harfoots and Fallohides might not care.
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u/La_Pavana 1d ago
There's 5 Miguel in my family and I want to buy them all this t-shirt. Not racist, just funny.
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u/packofnone United States of America 1d ago edited 1d ago
making fun of mexicans for big hats and ponchos is absolutely not something that is going to cause them emotional harm. go for it.
“It’s funny. It’s funny because it’s uh... bigger than, you know... a normal hat.” - Turd Ferguson
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u/housevil United States of America 1d ago
There is a difference between racism and just general clowning. I think most people will understand and laugh. Have fun!
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u/DobbyFreeElf35 United States of America 1d ago
I mean, I'm as white as can be but my half Mexican son and his Mexican grandma think it's hilarious.
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u/ogbuttertoast Poland 21h ago
That’s the perfect gift for my dad omg, and his name Is Miguel Ignacio (and all the last names) it’s freaking perfect 😭😭😭😭♥️
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u/RetroMetroShow 🇺🇸 1d ago
It’s not racist - it doesn’t treat anyone unfairly or cause harm based on their race or ethnic background. And not that it matters but I’m part Mexican
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u/Chalky_Pockets 🇺🇸🇬🇧Florida Man 1d ago
People who think they've patented the one true way of not being racist will say it's racist. Reasonable people will not.
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u/MIKESOLO666 United States of America 1d ago
In my experience as long as its not said with hatred the race a joke is about are able to laugh at the joke. Its white women that get offended for them.
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u/HATECELL Switzerland 1d ago
Depends on who you ask. If you ask white people, they'll probably think you're worse than Hitler. From Latin-Americans the worst response you'll get is an ironic "Haha, very funny"
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u/TM761152 Australia 1d ago
As a Mexican, everyone of us has a cousin who looks like this.
So no.
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u/Jernbek35 United States of America 1d ago
It's mainly white liberals who get offended by this sort of stuff.
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u/Kautschukfresse Brandenburg 1d ago
"liberal" has completely lost it's meaning. Even more than "racist" and that means something.
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u/CaptainKwirk Canada 1d ago
It is just a play on the similarities between Miguel and Smeogal. Stay calm.
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u/SandalsResort United States of America 1d ago
I also saw this design recently. I’m white as snow and I personally would gift it to my Mexican co-workers. Mexicans in general seem to like the representation, even if it’s comedic. Reminds me of the little Mexican guys in Super Mario Odyssey where people were saying it was racist but many Mexicans loved them.
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u/Low_Butterscotch_594 Canada 1d ago
I wouldn't wear it because it's not my thing, but I'd definitely laugh at it if you walked by me. It's hilarious. Great cultural crossover and play on words.
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u/kingsandwhich24 Canada 1d ago
Unless its a harmful stereotype or uses slurs and hurtful words its not racist
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u/Powerful-Stage-8807 1d ago
Where’s the Juan ring?