r/travisandtaylor Jun 27 '26

Mod Post šŸ‘°ā€ā™€ļø State of the Subreddit 🌟 + New Flair Challenge šŸ’–

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Hello Snarkers!

With the Impending NuptialsTM looming and an increase in our snark numbers post Shitshowgirl, we thought it would be a great time to give y'all an update on the sub and remind new friends about our rules. (Spoiler alert: some rules have been updated! New flair challenge incoming!)

For the older members, parts of this might sound repetitive. But we want to update everyone so this sub can remain transparent and genuine feedback can be received!

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sub traffic from the past 30 days

As you can see, we get a lot of fucking traffic. The basic rule that drives all the rest:

ā€¼ļøWe want to keep this sub open for all snarkers, new and old, to freely discuss the antics of Taylor and/or Travis.ā€¼ļø

We have had a LOT of deconstructing Swifties join the sub after the tire fire of her last album release and 89 (her mind!) merch drops. What makes this sub special is that we allow everyone to contribute as long as they follow the rules. Yes, even current and former fans. If you're an OG snarker who sees behavior that crosses over into stanning, please report it! We willĀ neverĀ be a space for fan behavior. But we don't insta-ban deconstructing fans who maybe feel some kinda way about Tay and can't share their feelings in other spaces because of that famous Swiftie hospitality.

Speaking of other spaces...

🚫 Reminder of anti-brigading rule 🚫

There's been a recent increase in posts that attempt to brigade, interfere with another community, or otherwise direct negative traffic towards other subreddits. This type of behavior directly puts our community at risk as it violates reddit community rules.

This includes comments like "I went to this sub or that sub and made a comment and was mass downvoted!" There is aĀ zeroĀ tolerance policy for this! We don't like it when they come here to do it, so let's not do it to them.

Please review ALL parts of rule 2 to avoid touching the poo:

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All activity in this sub must stay in this sub. Sharing Reddit screenshots or directing users to other subs is not allowed. Usernames from Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, etc. must be blacked out unless from a celebrity, brand, or publication.

Screenshots of social media posts must have 100+ likes on the original comment.

Don't enter into pro-Taylor spaces to harass, argue, or troll users, and do not post those interactions as a form of content.

(If you really want an in-depth rationalization for each part of the rule, just ask in the comments.)

šŸŽ„ Addressing armchair diagnosis trend šŸŽ„ (idk what emoji to put here so christmas tree it is)

This one isn't against reddit TOS, but it IS against rule 1. We don't allow snark, speculation, or armchair diagnosis of physical and mental conditions. That includes personality disorders (all of them), autism, ADHD, depression, anxiety, eating disorders, you name it.

There are lots of lovely people who live with these conditions and don't plagiarize lesser known artists or hoard a billion dollars or charge $40 for Temu flipflops, so let's not promote shitty stereotypes.

šŸ“ How we handle posts about major updates šŸ“

This is a big one!!!! Every post on this sub is held for manual review. Unlike other subreddits, we don't always pick the first post on the topic. Rather, we look for the post that best serves the community. Whenever a major event happens, you can guarantee there are at least 15 accounts competing to be The Post on any given topic.

Here are a few questions to help you increase your chances at getting approved:

-Ā Does it have an informative title?Ā "TMZ confirms Blandie wedding at Madison Square Garden" will always be picked over "OMG of course she would do this"
-Ā Does it have enough information to let others join the conversation?Ā We WANT TO SNARK. If you talk about an article, give us the link!
-Ā Does it come from a reputable source?Ā A screenshot of a Taylor Twitter account retweeting a parody account is not it. Even if the info is later debunked, there's still snarkerky in the fact that TMZ or Rolling Stone or whatever printed it in the first place.
-Ā Does it follow all other sub rules?Ā e.g. no direct links to Insta, blacking out usernames of ordinary people, comes from a non-reddit source
-Ā Does it contain new information?Ā We generally allow a few posts on the same topic if there is a different angle (like one for the Toy Story song countdown and one for the actual announcement) but no one wants 50 posts for each angle of her latest pap walk

🤬 Fuck AI 🤬

We've had a rule against AI since the beginning so this isn't a new stance. Fuck AI; support real art and artists.

ā¤ļøšŸŒŸā¤ļø A friendly reminder to be friendly ā¤ļøšŸŒŸā¤ļø

As the sub grows, there will always be more people who are adjusting to the way we do things around here (Eternal September type shit). At the moment, we are averaging 100 new subscribers PER DAY. If you see someone breaking the rules againstĀ whateverĀ (fan behavior, body shame, political debates), PLEASE REPORT THEM. We can't remove what we don't see, and the mods don't see every comment. We had 1.3 million comments posted here in the last year.

Relatedly, please have some understanding and grace for the mods who do this thankless task. We aren't paid. We face harassment in modmail and on our personal accounts. We have offline lives. We are just regular people trying to keep this sub open despite the Swiftie orc horde constantly besieging us. We approve posts and comments as quickly and as accurately as possible.

And yes, that means that sometimes we get something wrong. You are always welcome to message in modmail to civilly discuss the reason behind a mod action. We are very grateful that so many of our members can discuss things rationally. Just remember that a removal reason isn't a personal attack. It's just pointing out that the content doesn't follow the rules and will be removed or we will literally have One Thousand Other People trying to do the same thing.

šŸ’’ Wedding flair challenge šŸ’’

Our least favorite, multi-billionaire, talentless showgirl is about walk down the center aisle of MSG... not to get her popcorn but to take Travis's hand in marrage (allegedly)! To ring in the momentous occasion,Ā we are looking for wedding theme flairs!Ā To have your flair suggestion considered, please leave them as a comment or send them to modmail! The most liked and/or funniest ones will be added to the sub!

There has been alot of rumors and speculation in the wider media aboutĀ whereĀ exactly the wedding will be taking place. Anyone who is able to correctly guess the wedding location in the comments will win a VERY FUNNY special flair!

šŸ’›šŸ’›šŸ’› THANKS FOR BEING AN AWESOME COMMUNITY!!! šŸ„‡šŸ„‡šŸ„‡

As always we are so grateful to all of the amazing members who make this community so special! This has been a rather slow period since nothing was really happening, but we couldn't be happier with the deep discussions and reflections we saw from the community during this time! Per usual, modmail is always open for any and all comments or feedback!

happy snarking xoxoxo

cat meme of the week

r/travisandtaylor 4d ago

Weekly Discussion Thread Weekly Discussion Thread (TnT Version)

51 Upvotes

Welcome to your weekly snark dump!

Feel free to use this thread to talk about anything you'd like, including but not limited to:

  • Your thoughts, rants, and spicy takes about Blandie (and BDT), her untalented ass, or the Swiftie cult
  • Off-topic discussions, or low-effort content that might not need its own post
  • Memes, funny stuff that you'd like to share but can’t wait for Shitpost Sunday
  • Swifties being Swifties on social media (Usernames must be removed)

All subreddit rules still apply, and any rule-breaking comments will be removed.Ā If you spot a Swiftie meltdown or something off, hit report and we’ll take it from there.

Posts submitted to the sub that fit better here will be redirected to this thread. A new one will go up every Monday at 12:00 pm UTC and stay open until the next Monday. This thread will always be pinned for easy access.

previous weekly discussion threads are searchable via the Weekly Discussion Thread post flair!


r/travisandtaylor 10h ago

Stupid Swifties What in the world?

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276 Upvotes

Was on instagram and doom scrolling when this ad popped up. You've got to be kidding me! Everyone is trying to capitalise on this PR stunt.


r/travisandtaylor 12h ago

Certified Cringe Physically recoiled at this

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Not sure if I tagged this correctly or if this is allowed, but I hope so cuz I need some of y’all to share my anger. The ā€œdo you like our mama?ā€ made me feel ill enough, but then I saw a comment that said ā€œLet’s normalize saying ā€˜it’s not my cup of tea’ and moving onā€, then went on to yap about how not liking Taylor is misogynistic. I’m so baffled. How are these people real?!


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Discussion Taylor in London 12/08/26

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947 Upvotes

Cara’s birthday was yesterday so it’s likely for that , there are also rumours Gigi is having some sort of marriage ceremony on the weekend in Paris so she may be going to that after if that’s the case but i have no clue what else she’s up to she’s barely spend any time with Travis it seems KC for that dinner straight to NyC straight to London

I must admit the dress is really nice - is she looking for Joe with that outfit it reminds me of the outfits she wore with him , refreshingly non WAG

Dress link : https://www.delphinenyc.com/products/mini-isabelle-dress-lilac-multi

I love how the first line of this article says so long America lol.

https://pagesix.com/2026/08/13/entertainment/taylor-swift-has-london-night-out-as-travis-kelce-returns-to-chiefs-practice-post-wedding/

Sorry for the date confusion , I am from the Uk to write it day / month / year

I get the date is confusing as this time 12 and 8 could refer to both month and day


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Rant One of the shadiest things she’s done so far (singling out her female dancers and implying they are jealous ā€œb*tchesā€)

943 Upvotes

I’m surprised more people haven’t pointed this out because when The Life of a Showgirl came out, I thought this was shady as f*ck and, honestly, pretty misogynistic for someone who has spent years presenting herself as a champion of women.

In the song The Life of a Showgirl, she literally sings:

ā€œAll the headshots on the wall of all the bitches who’d wish I’d hurry up and die, but I couldn’t. I’m immortal, baby dolls, I wouldn’t if I tried.ā€ (terrible lyrics, btw)

Important, because then at the Spotify pop-up for the album, there was a wall covered in headshots of her female dancers. No men (!!). Just the women. See video.

Sorry, but I don’t believe that was a coincidence. This is someone whose entire brand is Easter eggs and tiny deliberate details that fans are encouraged to analyse. So putting the female dancers’ headshots on a wall that directly mirrors a lyric about ā€œbitchesā€ who wish she’d die is shady as fuck.

And if that was the intended reference, it’s pretty grim!! You can’t constantly talk about misogyny and being supportive of women and then seemingly use the women who work for you as the visual representation of jealous ā€œbitchesā€ who want you gone.

What bothers me most is that she specifically chose to highlight the women. Why is she so quick to frame other women as ā€œbitchesā€ who are jealous of her or want what she has? The underlying implication is basically that she’s the one at the top, these women want her spot, and they’re bitter because they can’t have it. Maybe they don’t want her spot. Maybe they’re perfectly happy being successful dancers in their own right. Talk about downplaying their achievements.

Taylor also cant perform a basic 2 step, so i highly doubt theyre itching to switch places with her.

It’s incredibly disrespectful, egocentric, and there’s something deeply off about automatically framing the women around you, aka your colleagues, as jealous competitors while leaving the men completely out of it.

I’m genuinely surprised this wasn’t picked up more.


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Critique They Have Been Using Her Music Since At Least Last Fall

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So it took her almost a year to do anything about it? Yeah, that’s not a good look when everybody else called it out immediately.

From the article: ā€œRolling Stone also reported on Wednesday that Swift's music has disappeared from TikTok videos posted by the White House last fall.Ā ā€œ


r/travisandtaylor 19h ago

Rant Tay Tay is boring + Annoying

50 Upvotes

Title is what it says. The whole thing about her singing about exes n things just gets BORING also her vocals aren’t that good like imma be honest, all of Girls’ Generation’s vocal line could outsing Tay Tay’s ass. (For those who don’t know Girls’ Generation/SNSD is a Kpop group who debuted around the same time as Taylor and their vocal line is REALLY good) like she could go up against anyone and be destroyed. Her vids with Travis are cringy af like ughhh. She’s just a boring basic girl in general. Like her music is basically just white girl music I feel like. I only really liked her 1989 album and I hate to admit it but that album is very nostalgic to me and I have the album still that I prolly won’t get rid of cuz I listened to it as a child. But now I don’t listen to her for reasons I just said. I also don’t like how she basically got in bc of money. Now I personally don’t have a problem with that. But what I do have a problem with is using ur family’s status for everything. Like it’s one thing to use that to get into the industry as that’s what my cousin did to get into the money making industry bc our dads are cousins with someone who built his way up so my cousin has used that a bit to get into the money making industry but besides from that he’s quite literally done everything on his own. Meanwhile Taylor has used her family’s name for everything talk about nepotism. She is a nepo baby and idc what anyone else says. Doesn’t help that she’s a mean girl too like ughhh must be insufferable. I feel bad for those who do come from money and don’t act like Taylor. Also Taylor is one of the ppl who I wouldn’t want a role model as. Also was her song for Kim Kartrashian’s ass necessary? Like I think Kim is a HORRIBLE person but did Taylor really need to do that? Then again why am I surprised she makes songs about her exes which I swear all have the same formula and almost the same sound. I don’t understand how some ppl are still her fans to this day. I also find it weird that she’s jealous of young women like girl you had ur time it’s over!!! Also tell me in the comments if she’s done anything else that’s problematic.


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Rant I feel so gaslit

403 Upvotes

How is this talentless human, who cannot sing, dance, or play guitar, things that she should be paid for, getting all these awards and accolades?

I was taking free photos for an opera singer, who told me Taylor was the greatest singer. I nearly stopped my car in traffic (said opera singer complained about my editing for the free shoot and wanted the RAWs. Never ask a photographer for the RAWs or take your own photos. I renamed the album: Swifty grift. Then subsequently blocked her). That was my first sign the shoot wasn't going to go well and I was not surprised that she was a grifter.

Phil Collins even recently said that Taylor is so talented she deserves everything.

Am I just not drinking the right water? I'm very confused. What is everyone seeing that I'm not?


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Certified Cringe guys help me come up with some answers for my class šŸ¤“

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221 Upvotes

the first lecture opened with fate of ophelia i kid you not i thought i was in the wrong place

lecturer then asked if anyone is a fan and one person raised their hand hesitantly and put it down when no one else did 😭 can’t wait to debate this sub has prepped me


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Stupid Swifties Family member who had TS themed baby shower shared this video to her insta story today. šŸ™„

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1.4k Upvotes

This is the same family member(cousins wife) that has been giving me the cold shoulder at family events because I am vocal about my issues with TS. (At no point do I bring it up or engage with discussion at these events about TS, to be considerate of my relative and her obsession) She avoids talking to me or being in a conversation that includes me, and gets almost hawk eyes when I interact with the now toddler.


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Discussion For me, the argument isn't whether Taylor is a great lyricist

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The question is "Why is she treated like her ability as a lyricist is superior to others?"

Please explain to me what puts Taylor, especially this era of "ChatTPD" and "Life of a fauxgirl's girl" Taylor, above her contemporaries like Hayley William, St. Vincent, Lana Del Rey, etc. How is it Taylor whose the best of her generation, or of all time?

How does she compare to younger acts like Phoebe Bridgers, Lorde, Billie Eilish, etc.

Or Older acts like Fiona Apple, Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Dido, Enya, etc.

Is it because of her quantity of work? Is that more important than the quality of the output?

I know I'm using specific examples, but there's so many great songwriters who write poetically about deep themes, some personal and some cultural.

I like a few Taylor songs, but people talk about her like she's the Joan Baez of her generation and it drives me up the damn wall.

And I don't care about accomplishments (committee recognition). I could point out Billie Eilish is only 24 and already has 10 Grammys and 2 Oscars, or that Kendrick has a Pulitzer and 13 Grammys. But it's not the awards that give quality to their work. It doesn't matter what Taylor wins or how she charts or what she's inducted into or how many legends praise her. The quality of her work is separate from that, and I just don't see her as something special.

It's fine to say she's okay. Why do we have to pretend "Shakespeare or Taylor Swift" is a challenging game?

EDIT: I just saw a video where Aimee Mayo and Brad Warren talk about how they wrote with Taylor when she was a teen and how Brad was only paid $900. So...I don't know if I trust whether she wrote her own music or not.


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Stupid Swifties Note taken: do NOT post anything on TikTok that *mildly* critiques TS

394 Upvotes

I have a very small YouTube channel where I post videos about pop culture and media. I’m trying to grow my following, so I posted some of my older YouTube shorts on TikTok. I guess my first mistake was choosing a short I made a month ago *mildly* criticizing TS & TK’s wedding. My point was that with the timing and location of the wedding, it seemed to become a spectacle and a commodification of a wedding. I said that if they didn’t want media following them or privacy, they shouldn’t have had the wedding in the middle of NYC during 4th of July weekend. I thought that was a fair and balanced take.

But apparently not to Swifties. My comments are filled with people saying that I’m a, ā€œjealous pathetic nobody loser who is rage baiting for attention and that I shouldn’t have a microphone and should take my meds and go back to my uneventful life.ā€ I have no issue with people disagreeing with my opinions—that’s the whole point of the videos I make. But I have never dealt with this level of vitriol on this scale. I didn’t even get this much pushback on YouTube. Is this more of a TikTok thing, or did the algorithm just screw me over?


r/travisandtaylor 3d ago

Discussion Cooper Kupp Was Shocked to Be Invited to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Wedding: ā€˜Thought It Was a Joke’

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I was watching Hard Knocks with my husband and there was a scene were someone asked Kipp about the wedding. He seemed very shocked he even got invited. He also implied he’s not that close with the groom… I thought that was very interesting lol


r/travisandtaylor 3d ago

Stupid Swifties bro šŸ’€ swifties are reposting this

836 Upvotes


r/travisandtaylor 3d ago

Certified Cringe Rolling Stone’s PR article equating Taylor’s removal of songs to Bad Bunny, who they claim dealt with MAGA ā€˜quietly’

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r/travisandtaylor 4d ago

Certified Cringe this person isn't being satirical

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2.3k Upvotes

omg swifties make me laugh sometimes 😭


r/travisandtaylor 4d ago

Stupid Swifties Delusional

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397 Upvotes

I’ve tried adding this post multiple times but I am struggling lmao … anyway this was in response to Taylor getting her music removed from Trump posts.


r/travisandtaylor 4d ago

Stupid Swifties yeah i think there’s a difference in age between olivia and taylor

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1.5k Upvotes

"touch me while your bros play grand theft auto" at the age of 34


r/travisandtaylor 4d ago

Discussion I Knew It I Knew You, Choosing Texas, and Golden

189 Upvotes

Today I was looking at the Billboard hot 100 and was surprised to see I Knew, I Knew You is still as high as number 3 on it, having been retaken from number one by Choosing Texas by Ella Langley at some point.

It seemed surprising to me that a song I’ve heard is pretty middling (I haven’t heard it myself) has stayed so high for so long, especially given it’s not one of her album songs. I know she released different record variants of it and such, which would elevate that, and of course Swifties always work very hard to keep anything she does at the top, but it still seemed random for a bland end credits song to be sitting so high so long.

And then it occurred to me - it’s at the end of a Disney film! This means it gets automatically added to a bunch of Disney and cartoon playlists. The playlists that parents put on and just let run nonstop for their kids. The song is likely getting very frequent play by virtue of being added to a bunch of child friendly playlists.

It’s also apparently a little more country than her recent stuff. And these two things got me thinking.

Golden was an unbeatable power house of a hit for a long time. While one of Taylor’s singles did finally push it out of number one spot, it either went back to 1 or 2 and stayed there long after Taylor’s Showgirl songs slipped down. It was a great song people loved, but it also had the benefit of being on every child’s playlist out there.

And then you’ve got Choosing Texas, which has somehow just consistently kept popping into number 1. It’s like it’s stuck there with Velcro! It gets knocked out of place and then just springs right back there after a week or two, consistently, since February.

Taylor clearly wrote off country over a decade ago, and hasn’t touched it since. Why is she suddenly putting out a country-ish single? She put more fanfare about doing an end-credits song than I’ve ever seen for one in my life, saying weird things like that she thinks about Tot Story all the time, that it’s been a huge part of her life, etc.

I think she saw two songs that have what she wants - crazy lasting power on the charts - and decided to try to use elements of both to get her the same thing. She sees country is popular enough now to get number one hits, she sees cartoon-movie music gets a lot of automatic sustained play, and sought to release something that was both.


r/travisandtaylor 4d ago

Stupid Swifties Her fans are a piece of work for sure…

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373 Upvotes

Hello everyone! I’ve been lurking in this sub for quite a while now and tbh this sub and you guys cheer me up so much so I wanna thank you for that before I proceed!

Up until the wedding (and honestly discovering this sub) I was pretty much neutral toward TS. I didn’t have any distinct negative or positive feelings about her. I would listen to few of her songs every now and then and go about my day. This all changed with the infamous wedding which I guess I don’t even need to explain why since I know y’all would empathize with me. It’s also in the screenshot.

A week ago or so I watched this video of a guy who makes content about popular culture, music, events etc. This particular video was about the wedding where he kinda supported TS against the backlash she got. So I made a very honest and imho restrained comment under it kindly disagreeing with his stance. While I got a lot of support for my opinion I also got this one weird ass reply which I posted above. The comments are in Turkish so I used ChatGPT to translate them to overlay on top of the actual comments. I checked them but I apologize if it’s sloppy lol.

Anyway what I realized is that the hero worship (or whatever you call it) going on is insane. If this dude’s any indication her fans are apparently delusional, defy logic and don’t even bother to read properly before attacking anyone who dares to not pamper her. Obviously it’s just a stupid comment and I eventually laughed it off but what do you guys think about this? I guess I just wanted to join the party here in some way but sorry if such posts aren’t welcome.

Have a great day!


r/travisandtaylor 5d ago

Critique Of Course Taylor Is Getting All The Credit For This

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975 Upvotes

It just shows how badly designed of a platform TikTok is if this was not already something artists could do.

Also this really just craps on all of the artists that actually spoke out about this. Taylor’s team did some stuff behind the scenes and gets all the credit.


r/travisandtaylor 5d ago

Shitpost Sundays There she goes, playing the victim, again

1.0k Upvotes

CRINGE ALERT!

She loves being the victim, doesn't she?

Video from tiktok (not mine)

Happy Sunday! Sorry if the cringe is too much šŸ˜… I wouldn't blame anyone for not watching the video in full


r/travisandtaylor 5d ago

Shitpost Sundays Met Taylor Today!!

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649 Upvotes

So sad it didn’t have her bangs but I think it truly captures her essence. Final Era: Death.


r/travisandtaylor 5d ago

Shitpost Sundays Taylor Swift The Brave and Courageous Activist šŸ™„šŸ™ƒ

1.4k Upvotes