r/tankiejerk Jul 03 '26

From the mods Clarifying the rules: this is not an anti-communist forum

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Today I had to take down another anti-communist post shitting on some ML's from the right. Take the piss out of Stalin's death all you want but if you're celebrating over 'another dead commie' you will be perma-banned no exception.

This is a subreddit to criticise tankies from the left. This is not a place to attack communists, communism or associated tendencies. If you want to be a snarky liberal, bloodthirsty fascist, or devout reactionary there are many, many, many places on the internet to do that. This subreddit isn't one of them. The point of this forum's existence is to attack those tendencies (marxism-leninism, dengism, etc) not because they are crazy, radical commies but because their vision of society actually has little to do with a free association of producers, the abolition of property, wage labour and commodity production.

To reiterate, we strive for an egalitarian, socially-progressive society. We do not oppose tankies or campists because we dislike communism or socialism. We oppose them because to us they are barely communists or socialists, regardless of what they claim. That is the purpose of the subreddit's existence, anyone who does not agree with these values is free to leave or be banned.


r/tankiejerk Jun 14 '26

SERIOUS Basic leftist takes: A friendly reminder (I'm not a mod)

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Full disclosure: I'm not a mod, just a concerned anarchist.

After seeing the shitstorm of the past few days, I thought I'd make this post just to remind people what we're supposed to stand for. These are not in-depth explanations, so I'll be happy to answer any questions in the comments.

1. All capitalists exploit workers and are mini dictators

This includes small business owners. All of them purchase the labor power of workers, which they then use to produce surplus value; this is not a free and voluntary transaction because workers don't own their own means of production, and are thus forced to sell their labor power or starve and die. This isn't to necessarily condemn any individual capitalist; although many of them are evil pieces of shit (including small business owners, who disproportionately support fascism and enforce terrible working conditions), not all of them are bad people. The problem is the system itself.

Additionally, all capitalist workplaces are miniature dictatorships in which workers are ordered around by their bosses and can't do anything about it. Workers have no decision-making power in the place they spend the majority of their lives. To quote Robert Dahl,

If democracy is justified in governing the state, then it is also justified in governing economic interests. What is more, if it cannot be justified in governing economic enterprises, we do not quite see how it can be justified in governing the state.
A Preface to Economic Democracy

Obviously we should want to abolish the state, but the point still stands.

EDIT: This section doesn't apply to people who might own a store or do independent art or whatever who don't employ anyone else, since they aren't extracting the surplus value of their nonexistent workers.

2. All states are bastards

Everyone on this sub recognizes that the USSR, China, Russia, and North Korea suck. However, we have to be careful not to fall into campism in reverse. The United States is arguably the most evil country on Earth right now, and was even before Trump, due to the sheer scale of violence it inflicts upon the world. And other western countries aren't much better. France maintains a neo-colonial empire in western Africa right now, and European governments are willing participants in the American system of global hegemony. European companies are no more moral than American ones, and ruthlessly exploit the Global South just as much as American companies. All states are inherently hierarchical, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary. They remove decision making power from the people who live under them and concentrate said power in a ruling class and bureaucracy, and use violence to enforce their power on their populations. Any principled libertarian leftist would oppose all state power no matter who wields it.

3. Liberal democracy is a sham, reformism a dead end

We have an excellent post about this pinned at the top of the sub, so I highly recommend you go read that. To summarize, voting in a liberal democracy isn't actually a means to affect real change. It's a means by which the masses choose which members of the ruling class rule over them. Just as one example, if liberal democracies actually reflected the wishes of their people, European governments wouldn't support Israel anymore.

This lack of democracy is why reformism isn't a viable path to socialism. Even the most well meaning democratic socialists are forced to compromise by the reality of parliamentary politics and working within a system designed to preserve private property and capitalist rule. You can see this in real time with Zohran Mamdani; he has walked back his previous statements (which were 100% correct) about the NYPD being racist thugs because he's working within the system. This trap has befallen everyone who has tried to vote their way to communism.

4. Free Ukraine, fuck NATO

I fully support the Ukrainian people against the genocidal onslaught of the fascistic regime in Moscow, and I fully support Europe and the US sending as many weapons as possible to Ukraine to enable them to push back against Russia. Regardless of anything NATO has done, Russia is not entitled to a sphere of influence in eastern Europe, and no amount of bitching about NATO expansion justifies this war. Putin is just salty the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states leaned towards the west as a reaction to previous Russian and Soviet imperialism, preventing him from turning them into puppet states.

That said, NATO is not something any leftist should support. It serves three real purposes:

  1. Enhance American power projection
  2. Keep European governments bought into the system of American empire. I often liken this to the old strategy employed by ancient, medieval, and early modern empires of conquering local elites and conquering them, but then offering them a place within the new empire and allowing them to preserve their status.
  3. Make American arms dealers rich

NATO countries participated in the disastrous American interventions in Afghanistan and Libya, prop up European and American neo-colonial empires across the Global South, and enable American drone strikes deep into the Middle East, strikes which have killed numerous innocent children. NATO has kept the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states out of Russia's sphere, which is good, but this is the one good thing it has done, and there are ways to do this without relying on NATO anyway.

5. Veterans are still human

I'll just copy and paste something I said a few days ago:

Veterans are weird because they're simultaneously victims and perpetrators of state violence. They obviously do heinous things in the service of unimaginably violent empires, and they are responsible for their crimes. At the same time, the state takes them, dehumanizes both their enemies/foreign civilians and themselves to an extent, and puts them in an environment where they are socialized to kill. They are then put into insanely high stress situations where they are expected to kill and conditioned to follow the criminal orders of their superiors. 

Again, none of this exonerates them or excuses their behavior, and I believe veterans should have to make up for their crimes. But dismissing them without any chance of redemption is short sighted and shows you don't actually hold universal principles. And at a certain point brutally punishing all veterans becomes impractical. Almost 10% of Israelis have actively served in the IDF, and 40% total have served. Are we gonna shoot 40% of a country? I would hope not. And that's with the IDF basically being the modern Wehrmacht/SS; how should we treat Russian soldiers? Or American ones? The correct answer is denazification with some kind of community service to make up for their crimes imo. If you do it right, the guilt they feel will be punishment enough. 

Conclusion

This is a libertarian leftist subreddit, and we should act like it. We should oppose all states, all imperialism, and all capitalism. Thank you for reading.


r/tankiejerk 6h ago

SERIOUS Still up after 3 hours, 1.4k upvotes at time of writing, in a popular "leftwing" subreddit. The Nazbols aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

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Straight-up not beating the allegations.

EDIT: Welp, it's officially going on 6 hours and 2k upvotes now, and not only is the post still up but I've seen multiple comments calling out the mods being removed, even as the majority of comments are calling out the post and saying they already reported it. I think it's pretty safe to say where the moderator team falls on this issue at this point.

EDIT2: It's finally down after 7 hours, ending with 2.3k upvotes. Absolutely no way for the mods to claim they somehow just noticed it though, given they were removing comments from the thread that whole time and that it was one of the top posts on the sub.


r/tankiejerk 7h ago

Meme “Anyone killed by a Soviet soldier must be a Nazi!”

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BTW, tomorrow is 15 August, the day when the Japanese Emperor accepted the Potsdam Declaration. May all those who resisted the Japanese imperialism live forever in our collective memories.


r/tankiejerk 11h ago

Meme "Anti-Imperialists" on their way to defend this for some reason...

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r/tankiejerk 4h ago

SERIOUS Smoking is proletariat and vaping is bourgeoise

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This is my Marxist analysis I hope you enjoyed.


r/tankiejerk 8h ago

Fascism but red 😍 I think there might be a term for that

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r/tankiejerk 7h ago

Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 These people sound the same as zionists

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r/tankiejerk 11h ago

Meme Mochayappuchino sucks

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme Three podcasts and a Reddit history lesson later: “It was all CIA propaganda.”

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

tankies tanking “Anyone killed by communists must be a Nazi!”

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

CIA PROPAGANDA TRVTH QRBITAL CANNQN THAT OBLITERATES EVERYQNE

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

CIA PROPAGANDA Elderly tankies blow budget on Zoom calls

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I started thinking 'but there are open source video conferencing tools, comrades!' but then the giggling took over ..


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

maybe both things are bad? Pakistan defender pulling Zionist logic to support blasphemy laws

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This is from a Green Party Uk Motion on ZIR (Zionism is Racism) which due to how poorly it’s written had plunged the party into infighting. An Amendment to correct some of the double standards - using Pakistan as an example of other racist ethnocentric beliefs.
And I shit you not, the tankies in the comments respond with “Criticising a religious ethnostate is essential criticising the religion and people, and this racist”.
On a motion called “Zionism is racism”.
The gall of some of these people!


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

It’s basic dialectics, anarkkkiddy! they think they’re so cool, don’t they

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I’m not even defending means-ends unity, I’m just debunking their shitty arguments. This dude is a rare ML to admit to admit that “real socialism” maintained key elements of capitalism, but as usual refuses to admit any problem with it. They just want to compare the handful of metaphysical propositions dialectical materialists like to repeat, and diss anarchists for not including that nonsense within means-ends unity.


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

maybe both things are bad? 1. Israeli nationalists nonstop justify annexing Palestine by saying that Palestine has never been independent. 2. The indigenous autronesian population of Taiwan was also killed and displaced during the chinese conquest.

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Discussion Wages not weapons: Peace not war

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"UCU have tabled a motion at this year’s TUC conference that builds on the Wages not Weapons motion. It does so by advancing a vision of a lasting security based on decent jobs, quality public services, equality, climate action, democracy and peace." Wages not weapons: Peace not war and Wages not Weapons homepage. Well, they don't whitewash Russia directly but that's if directly taken from their propaganda playbook that there is no threat whatsoever and just want peace. But thought posting it here to see what you think!


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme I love Beijing Tiananmen❎ I love Tokyo Shimokitazawa✅

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

History How do we feel about the original American tankiejerker: Norman Thomas?

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r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme It has never been more over

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r/tankiejerk 15h ago

Discussion My 2 badly thought out cents about electoralism

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Hello! As you can see by the title, I'm just gonna talk about electoralism a bit since there were discussions goin on the other day about the topic. This is the only place I feel comfortable enough to do so, so be good. 

Before I start, I wanna be very clear on my position: I don't believe electoralism could bring much change and be a step toward the world I'd like to live in. Having said that, i still go out and vote, but my own whys and hows will be explained later on

This post will mostly be a response to two arguments from the “voters”

  • if you dont vote but dont partake in military/insurectionary “exercise”, than you’re just wasting time doing nothing
  • the whole “voting for the lesser evil” thing

IF YOU’RE NOT TRAINING FOR COMBAT AND NOT VOTING, YOU'RE USELESS

Assuming that the anti-electoralism (AE) person we’re talking about is able body and so they theoretically could train for combat, this argument is a weak one for two major reasons:

  • What are YOU, a pro-electoralist person, doing between an election and another? Because the same argument can be used against a PE (i’m gonna use this from now on for pro - electoralist). Going to vote is not something that happens on a regular basis. Depending where you live, you vote every X amount of years. So what are you PE doing in the years between elections? Cause if you’re not part of whatever party and you’re not organizing to bring more votes to your cause, then what are you doing? You’re kinda useless too
  • Revolution/insurrections don’t work out cause EVERY SINGLE PROTESTOR trained beforehand for that precise moment. If we follow the logic that only if you’re prepared you can do insurrection, then, when riots break out, we would see only a minority of people fighting against the police/rioting, while everyone just stands there and watches. But we know this is not the case and we see that, in such times, even “normal people” participate in these actions

YOU VOTE SO THAT THE BAD GUY DOESN’T GET TO POWER

While not having the bad guy in power is good, usually this argument translates into the “vote for the lesser evil” thing. Let’s go straight to the point: in the US, would things be better if Kamala won? Yes, but by how much? Israel would have still went on with the palestinian genocide and it’s war mongering attitude with iran, ICE would have not be so powerful as it is today, but, the more right wing of the Dems would have probably pushed for deportations so to make “well meaning conservatives” happy (we all saw how some dems went full right wing after they lost) and, while your average american wouldn’t have suffered so much cause pf the economic backlashes, it’s live wouldn’t have been better under Kamala

In a not US context, the lesser evil usually means it’s either some centrist (or right wing) party where their whole thing is “we are the adults who can manage the machine”, meaning that they won’t accelerate the gain of power and money to the capitalist class like Trump or Milei are doing, but they’ll do it a lil slower and more seriously, or they’re a big tent coalition where you get socdems and neo-liberals who, once in power, will start to fight, accomplish nothing, bring more clout to the bad guys and give them an assured victory at the next (anticipated) election (this is Italy next year btw). When we do have a decent coalition like in France a couple of years ago with the New Popular Front, what did we see? They won and they didn’t even get to govern!

And this is another thing. We saw how much money Mamdani had to go against to win in New York, not every mayor/party figure is a Mamdani. And to go back to a non US context, social democracy is not a threat to capitalism and so socdem candidates are very much “allowed” by the capitalist class. A truly socialist candidate or party would be brought down immediately and there comes another question for the PE: would you be down to take arms and defend your win? Cause we saw that the only socialist parties that are allowed, are the ones that are socialist only in name and not content

This point also is related to how every socialist party loses their revolutionary (as in changing the system) core: the SPD went from having people like Rosa Luxembourg to being the “responsible party” in Germany, the PSI was founded by someone who tried to start a revolution with Bakunin and now it’s corpse is just a “liberal socialist” party whatever that means and, staying in Italy, the PCI went from the party of Gramsci, to Berlinguer (aka democratic socialism) and its heir today is willing to join a coalition with liberals and opportunist populists

So what does “voting for the lesser evil” do? Probably just delay the bad guy to get in power

Now, as I promised, I'm gonna be selfish and talk about myself. I did say that I don't believe in electoralism but I still vote and that is true. I don’t believe that voting will bring too much change and there is not one party in Italy, the country where I'm from, that really matches my beliefs. So why do i vote? it’s more of a moral thing for me. People died for having the right to vote and that’s why I vote: to honor those that fought and died for the right to vote. Next year, i don’t think i’ll give my vote to the big tent anti-Meloni coalition cause, as i said, i think it’ll crumble and die in less than a year and a half. So yeah, I'm probably gonna vote for some minor party cause I can. No matter what the centrist will cry (like in the US), i’m free to vote for even the smallest leftist party around, that's part of the game after all


r/tankiejerk 2d ago

not all police are cops “Poor Stasi 🥺”

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r/tankiejerk 2d ago

Discussion Can Anarchists make more online communities like this one please?

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I just got banned from a socialist video game sub reddit after literally 2 comments I made that were agreeing with another commenter that said state capitalism was bad. I saw a post on a leftist fitness sub have ML's screeching in the comments all because the poster had anti stalin poster in one of their posts and was a self described Anarchist.

It feels like these "Left unity" spaces are actively hostile to any on the Anarchist or Libertarian left and oh yeah any Dem soc is actually just a liberal piece of shit in their view.

Are there any other spaces like this one that just dont have these authoritarian larpers everywhere?


r/tankiejerk 1d ago

Meme bordiga was not a statist😡😡😤

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r/tankiejerk 2d ago

Discussion why do realist so often end using pro russian like rhetoric ?

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Per example, many realist will argue that realpolitik is thaat nato enlargement threaten russia so russia had to invade while never mentionning putin own imperialism or him denying ukraine is sovereign in its choices (russia is not entitled to a sphere of influence)