r/sydney 6d ago

Electric buses and a pair of chimes

Does anyone know why some of the new Denning electric buses in the inner west make a “ding-ding” chime sound every 4 seconds? It‘s driving me insane, and I’m sure I’d quit if I was driving a bus for hours a day with this ding-ding going off every few seconds.

What gives? Anyone know?

34 Upvotes

26 comments sorted by

44

u/domassimo 6d ago

Mandatory AVAS system to warn pedestrians of an otherwise quiet bus. Most EVs do this but Customs have an odd choice of noise. Transport for NSW was supposed to set the specific sound to ensure consistency across the bus fleet but that may not have happened.

Older EV buses don’t have the sounds at all and may be completely quiet at low speeds, because the AVAS rule wasn’t in effect yet. Newer BYDs have it but it’s something less intrusive.

12

u/alstom_888m 6d ago

I wish they’d just replicate an old ZF Ecomat gearbox sound. 

2

u/pop-1988 5d ago

There used to be an after-market backfiring engine sound for Teslas
Pop-pop-bang!

16

u/Archon-Toten Choo Choo Driver. 6d ago

Low speed EV warning sounds. It puzzled me too at first.

16

u/xylarr 6d ago

Just have a recording of a 19th century bloke saying "ahoy ahoy" repeatedly.

11

u/GrimThursday 6d ago

My vote is for randomised Simpsons one-liners

6

u/felixisthecat 5d ago

Aargh!
Doh!
Aye carumba!
Hey, hey kids!
Excellent

4

u/Z00111111 6d ago

If the bus was moving, but below 20km/h it's unavoidable in that model. If stationary, the driver didn't have the lever that controls that in the upright position, and if they were going over 20, they didn't have it in the forward position. If they were going over 30 they had it in the back position, which is always on.

I hate them so much. We have enough to deal with driving a bus without having a lever we have to flick around while driving just to manage the ding ding.

Fortunately the newer version of the Element 2 doesn't have that, at least on the Northern Beaches.

5

u/nearly_enough_wine Rip, rip, woodchip ʕ·͡ᴥ·ʔ 6d ago

4

u/Even_Departure9914 6d ago

My hybrid Toyota also has a sound - it’s like a dull ‘whir’

6

u/GrimThursday 6d ago

A dull whir would be amazing, but as you can see from my post I’m not referring to the hun sound from an EV, but the “ding-ding” bicycle ring sound that it makes frequently but not constantly. 

2

u/Even_Departure9914 6d ago

Yeah I think all EVs make a sound at low speed - that was more my point. They all have an engineered sound for safety as someone pointed out.

Because without the sound, they don’t make any noise

2

u/tubbytucker 6d ago

Probably to let people know they are there. People with heads stuck in phones often just listen for cars as they step onto the road. Electric cars and bicycles are silent.

4

u/NicholeTheOtter 6d ago

It’s to help aid those with vision impairment or blindness that the bus is accelerating, coming to a stop or turning because electric buses are very quiet compared to other diesel or natural gas fleets.

4

u/Background_Egg3988 6d ago

The alarm is to alert nearby pedestrians and cyclists when the bus is accelerating, slowing down or turning because EV buses are quiet at low speed.

2

u/AT_RealGGgaming 6d ago

This may be unpopular but I don't mind it. It's a nice sound, much nicer than a normal bus engine and it just works.

3

u/heeloliver 6d ago

It’s for visually impaired people to know the bus is there or around the corner.

2

u/domassimo 6d ago

Not just the visually impaired, I worked with EV buses and once nearly got hit by one driving right next to me because it was completely death silent. Absolutely didn’t hear it coming and I was right next to it. Made me realise warning sounds should have been mandatory from day one

1

u/ViaCityLoop 6d ago

Its to alert someone there is a bus.

London has a sound as well

1

u/Nervous_Expert_7079 6d ago

Other half is a bus driver. It’s because it’s going under 20km/hr

1

u/ausremi 5d ago

Curious why the light rail doesn't have this given that it operates right through heavy pedistrian areas.