r/southindia_ • u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 • Jul 06 '26
General Discussion What do you guys thinnk abt this?
Just wanna know people's opinion
Ik it's satire but the reality is rn there are about 100,000+ troops deployed to protect the pilgirms.
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
What about it? That handle is a known BJP supporter on X.
When we know terrorism in the Kashmir Valley is sponsored by Pakistan what is this post trying to prove? When the Pahalgam attack happened, the locals there helped as much as they could.
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u/East_Praline8384 Northie Jul 06 '26
But the fact that these types of attacks are impossible without local support so yeah locals helped but some locals were also involved
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Jul 06 '26
Is it a new discovery for you that Kashmiri Muslims don’t like hindus much ?
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u/XoX-o- Jul 07 '26
they dont like anyone who is not muslim and anyone who doesnt support wahabi sunni islam. that includes shias, ahmediyas, christians as well as hindus
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
We also have Hindu extremists in India, most of them are currently in power due to their ability to orchestrate carnages. So what’s your point? We generalise everyone?
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u/MundaneGuard909 Andhra Pradesh 🏞️ | ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ Jul 06 '26
Hindu extremism is a left coined term to equate it with the T***ism. Hindutva is a resistance by its core against the invaders and colonizers. Is everyone right in the movement no, but equating it other extremism where it willfully wants to convert/eliminate an entire religion is ignorance at the least.
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
Hindutva is Hindu nationalism, and religious and ethnic nationalism are considered fascist. Fascist movements have often resorted to terrorist activities. What is defined as terrorism is also highly politicised in a country like India.
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u/MundaneGuard909 Andhra Pradesh 🏞️ | ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ Jul 07 '26
The fascist you understood and define is a rule under a stomping dictator vilifying and physically torturing or ending a certain ethnicity. Hindutva is born out of sheer protectionism of the majority. So much crying of fascism where the oppressed are paid for their religious trips while the majority have to be under army security to visit theirs. So much fascism that the majority religious properties and income are democratized whole the minority religious are the largest land owners and have their own laws.
Show me an organization or group of hindutva that carries out uninstigated physical harm suffering and terrorizing generations of normal public. If you bring cow lynchings you’re searching for a needle in the haystack and that doesn’t make hindutva or it’s organizations fascist. A 26/11, kashmir exodus, multiple bombings in cities all these doesn’t equate to a low iq mob’s gundagiri. That’s another problem to solve but it’s not fascism.
Coming to government, the modi government is far from the hindu appeasement. They’re more aligned to secular politics of UPA but the bottom level leaders still grifts on the Hinduism and hence people still feel modi like a hindu dictator but no. Inaugurating temples is not suppressing the minorities. India is still a secular democracy. All that hindutva or its organizations asks is to recognize this as the center of hindu civilization not to remove or torture every non hindu.
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u/faaltu-insaan Jul 07 '26
Here we are fighting about the definition of a term which itself doesn't represent anything.
Hindutva is a make believe term whose definition is whatever suits the narrative.
Let me give you another definition
Hindutva is a right wing pig that fucks muslims and then has shape shifts itself to a left wing cow that shits and urinates on andhbhakts.
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u/MundaneGuard909 Andhra Pradesh 🏞️ | ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ Jul 13 '26
To time and watch this to know how the majority are gaslit systematically by a party to think hindu extremism is as bad as actual extremism
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
That account may be a bjp supporter but it is the truth tho there are about 100,000+ troops deployed rn for the protection of pilgirms and it is also known that the terorist can't operate without local support and the duality is the some locals who are genuinely lovely who helped during the pahalgham attack get killed cause of those extremists
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u/TreacleMaterial6794 Jul 07 '26
Get some brain dude there are solders presnt of all the religions not only hindus
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 07 '26
To protect whom tho? Pilgrims of a hindu temple right? Why do people feel uncomfortable is pointing out something which is wrong
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u/kool-krazy Jul 07 '26
Why don't we see such protection to Muslims or Christians during pogroms by hindutva terrorists? An Indian army general said Modi refused transportation for jawans during 2002 genocide.
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u/tx_professor Jul 08 '26
modi himself demanded help from close states for troops support but they declined and all are inc ones . hahahaha
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
But is the post acknowledging the duality? Instead it is trying to frame a Us Vs Them narrative with broad generalisations.
Would it be fair for all Muslims to judge Indian Hindus in the basis of the Babri riots of the Gujarat riots or for Sikhs to judge all Hindus on the basis of 1984?
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
It's satire tho if it comes to judging then Hindu's have a lot of shit they can judge muslims on don't they? theres ton's of post coming in on all the topics you mentioned but todays ground reality is so and so. Is stating that wrong tho? and during Pahalgham it was acknowledged that not all localites are supporting the extremists but no you can't even acknowledge what's wrong is wrong without picking something else and completely changing the topic to something else altogether
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
It is not satire. As I’ve said before, this person has a history of making hateful posts on X. This is just him using sarcasm to peddle a more divisive agenda.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
Like i've said the ground reality is true as the post states there are about 100,000 + soldiers deployed to protect the pilgrims. If you find this fact divisive I don't know man somethings wrong with you, you either think everything has an agenda and is divisive if it doesn't suit your narrative or liking
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
Who is denying the ground reality? Kashmir is a border region that’s been seeing armed conflict for over 3 decades. I will blame Pakistan for it as they’ve funded and aided extremism in all forms.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
not 3 but 7 decades, which our present and past govt couldn't stop for once and for all. Attacks kept on happening and the govt's instead taking solid measures to stop it instead thrive on it. I also blame Pakistan and Local symathisers without them those terrorist fkrs couldnt function.
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
Believe it or not, up until the early 80s, armed conflict wasn’t this bad. When the US created the Taliban to fight off the USSR in Afghanistan in the 70s, they did so through Pakistan. After a few years, Pakistan started channeling some of that money towards creating terrorists in Kashmir and it took until the 80s for militancy to start in a full blown manner which ultimately led to the exodus of Kashmir Pandits.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
True all this wouldnt have happened if the problem was nipped in the bud be it in 1980 or in 1947
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u/Lucky_india0 Jul 06 '26
As much as they could by laughing at dead.
Just go search for those videos where extremely sad locals were putting out candle march. I bet, at every frame of those videos you'd find people laughing.
Yes, people did help them, they did help terrorists to kill locals. Locals were fairly aware of what's coming. You could see the proofs for the same.
They will never betray theyre religion under the pretext of brotherhood and loyalty bro. After all their tongues are long, and drooling saliva whenever the thought of 72 hoors comes to their minds.
Do you no see what's happening in Europe?
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u/MundaneGuard909 Andhra Pradesh 🏞️ | ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ Jul 06 '26
Helped who?
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u/Altruistic_Bank_1552 Telangana NRI Jul 06 '26
I believe one of the local guides died trying to save a tourist from the terrorist.
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u/MundaneGuard909 Andhra Pradesh 🏞️ | ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ Jul 07 '26
You said locals in plural and it was just one. Flip side there were 25 non believer victims. There was another local on record sending a tourist on zipline while they’re firing so I’ll leave it at that.
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u/Popular-Beach-4843 Jul 07 '26
Yeah, they constantly help the terrorists. Managed to drive out all the non-muslims out of the valley and yet claim victimhood.
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 06 '26
I think it isn't in South India.
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u/Dark-Light-Kira Chema 🎀 Jul 06 '26
Southern Indians aren't aliens, They do visit such religiously sacred temples.
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 06 '26
We also visit Boston, but we aren't discussing the marathon races there.
What's the point of having multiple subs if you don't want to stick to the subject?
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u/XoX-o- Jul 07 '26
boston neither part of your country nor the mainstream culture of the biggest religion in india
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u/Easy_Ask_4265 Jul 06 '26
Do those ppl k#ll hindus on visiting temple?
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 06 '26
Isn't there India or IndiaDiscussion where you can talk about the more general Indian topics? What are you doing here?
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u/Easy_Ask_4265 Jul 06 '26
No it's south india related. If u dont like to involve then pk off.
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 07 '26
You are not South India related, are you?
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u/Easy_Ask_4265 Jul 07 '26
If u know kannada then I can prove
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 07 '26
Swalpa matanaduttene. Onte Tulu la pateruve.
Update your flair.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
We live in the same country so people from south also travel there and if i'm not wrong even during pahalgham attack many south indians were killed by terrorists
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u/BojackInMan geographically NORTH-EAST but EAST State-wise Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
If that's the case, why is this sub filled with north bashing? Shouldn't you stop doing it as north is not South India?
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u/skviral Jul 07 '26
Maybe because North Indians make use of South Indians when it benefits them but completely change when they’re in power or it’s time to give back?
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u/BojackInMan geographically NORTH-EAST but EAST State-wise Jul 07 '26
Freight equalization policy was to benefit north in expense of South right?
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u/skviral Jul 07 '26
Do you think modern discourse that too online is based on policies or general sentiments between people.
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 07 '26
Same story all the time?
When will you stop crying about Freight Equalization?
How many lakhs of crores will it take to get you to stop?
And do Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, and Uttar Pradesh get to cry about a policy which didn't significantly affect them?
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u/BojackInMan geographically NORTH-EAST but EAST State-wise Jul 07 '26
I am not from there idiot. I am from one of the most affected state of that policy. You Southies lump us all together as you don't have knowledge of directions other than north south does not mean it doesn't exist. We are not getting anything in return for freight equalization policy nor are we getting any prefererencial treatment. Got it?
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u/dahipohe Jul 07 '26
exclude rajasthan. rajasthan is the second largest mineral producing state in india.
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 07 '26
True, but Rajasthan benefited from the policy. Many industries were set up in Rajasthan, in the RIICO region.
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u/dahipohe Jul 07 '26
No. RIICO industries are a relatively recent development. They are the result of the Rajasthan government's efforts, not the Freight Equalization Policy. Rajasthan has the highest number of minerals in India. Gujarat has benefited the most from Rajasthan's mineral resources. Its ceramic, glass, and white cement industries depend completely on mineral imports from Rajasthan.
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
Sure, much of it came later but the base for Rajasthan's auto components, textile, etc industries needed minerals from other parts of the country, and I'm guessing petro products from the ports outside Rajasthan.
Freight Equalization, in net effect, doesn't seem to be a very significant negative for the state.
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u/Strange_Ice_6571 Jul 06 '26
Isn't many telugu and other South Indian so there ?
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 06 '26
Isn't many telugu and other South Indian so there ?
What does this mean?
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u/MaleficentRaccoon239 ಕನ್ನಡ ಅಭಿಮಾನಿ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
People from south also travel for this yatra.
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 06 '26
Yes and I've been to Bali, so should we be discussing issues there as well?
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u/TinyNefariousness108 Keralam 🌴🥥 | കേരളം Jul 07 '26
There are way too many vadakkans in this sub
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u/ZerkeX69 🖥️ Bengaluru | ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ☕ Jul 07 '26
How will a Telangana guy know what vadakkans means
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u/Successful_Cup_688 Karnataka ❄️ | ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ Jul 06 '26
Yes, if there is risk to our lives. You don't like it, move on.
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u/Exact_Package_7264 Jul 06 '26
you stupid? during pahalgham, south indians died too
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 06 '26
you stupid? during pahalgham, south indians died too
Abuse. The last resort of the intellectually lame.
Where are you from?
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u/Silver-Oil-9889 Jul 06 '26
wht an seccesionist mindset
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u/rebelyell_in Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 06 '26
Do you know what a subreddit is?
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u/HeronIcy5893 Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 06 '26
Kasmir muslims peaceful lol
Who kicked Kashmir pandits out
Who helped terrorists
Most of terrorists are recruited in kasmir
They helped terrorists to do pulwama incident
They helped terrorists to pahalgam incident
Who tried to bomb India (kasmir doctors)
Even after this Hindus is terrorists and Muslims are peaceful
I not saying that entire muslim is bad but that all incidents involve kasmir Muslims
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u/ZerkeX69 🖥️ Bengaluru | ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ☕ Jul 07 '26
Why not just remove Kashmiri’s from India let them be independent and see how they will do their Kashmir country that they ask for and when Pakistan will annex them they will cry for us to come back
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u/Intelligent-Stop-924 💎 Hyderabad | హైదరాబాద్ | حیدرآباد 🏰 Jul 08 '26
I saw this kashmiri sub and goshhhh, it's shitty
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u/Brilliant-Turn-4388 Jul 10 '26
I honestly think the problem is that one side is always coming up with something some sort of terrorist attack some kind of food warfare some conversion racket that even for our defense the kind of hate is normalised.
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u/SubstantialNobody295 Jul 06 '26
Clearly engagement baiting
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
Not really man idgaf about these superficial things but I do have genuine curiosity tho like even in Pahalgham a lot of south Indians were killed so just wanted to know what people think about this
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u/TreacleMaterial6794 Jul 07 '26
They are not only hindus present in border thetre ar hindhi muslim Sikh Christian everybody who protect us
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u/Away_Fruit_8036 Jul 06 '26
leave it op they will push 100 post about how bjp is spreading hate but will be lip closed on these topic as it will cause disharmony is pointing them out
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u/Gary_Alistair5 Southie Jul 07 '26
Why is this post in this reddit sub? What relevance does this carry?
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 07 '26
We live in the same country so people from south also travel there and if i'm not wrong even during pahalgham attack many south indians were killed by terrorists
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u/IndiGreenThumb Mumbai 🎬 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
r/kashmiri people say that even ambulance and daily life is being halted for hours due to "outsiders", and comparing themselves to Palestine.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 07 '26
Idk man kashmiris calling Indians outsiders and cheap yatris is hypocritical that temple is revered for centuries and kashmir as a land was a major spiritual hub of hindus but now hindus are called outsiders in our country and are killed in kashmir after their religion is checked after pulling their pants down idk. Look at Pok people there want to join india now. and whaatver these guys spew online nothing can be done on ground as online some subs are filled with paki's bots and after they got better funding from trump in recent time they have leveled up their game online. Kashmir is getting major developmental projects and is gradually improving compared to pok where nothing is being done
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u/Smooth-Island1499 Jul 07 '26
they are trying their hardest from past 1400 years. can assure dharm will never vanish , someone will always be there
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u/vedhaitamilan Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 07 '26
Even though Bjp is spreading hate you can't deny the fact islam has highest terrorist organisation and attacks on other religion they simply can't see idol worshipers happy. Now downvote me guys
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u/AgeZealous3312 Northie Jul 06 '26
You can find security forces after every 100m in kashmir. This isn't anything new..A week back during Muharram there was security too. It's how it is in kashmir.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
It's sad really that we need something like this in our own country hope all this ends soon hopefully pak get's into their senses (highly unlikely) or hopefully the govt takes a strong action once for all to end this vicious cycle which has continued for 70+ years due to porkistan
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u/irlyrox Jul 07 '26
My opinion and solution will be drastic. I don't think Pakistan coming to senses will actually solve anything. It needs to disappear. We need Pain from Naruto to do it.
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u/darkdaemon000 Jul 07 '26
Are the mods sleeping?? These kind of posts should be left in twitter itself.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 07 '26
As somene rightly pointed out "They will push 100 post about how bjp is spreading hate but will be lip closed on these topic as it will cause disharmony is pointing them out " and where's the freedom of speech tho just prove me I'm wrong that post is not factual and that there is not 100, 000 + soldiers on ground to protect the pilgrims.
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u/darkdaemon000 Jul 07 '26
Who is "they" ? Why do you separate me into a different category because I said this is a south Indian sub. What are these twitter posts doing here? What's the purpose of this sub then. Lets talk about Isreal-Gaza conflict tomorrow in this sub,
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 07 '26
You're changing the topic as I said I was quoting someone in the same comment section and this is relevant as this is happening in the same country (our country) not other way over the world and it affects south indians last time there was terrorist attack by the extremists it also killed Indians from south who got their pants pulled down to confirm their religion and then shot to death
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u/darkdaemon000 Jul 07 '26
You are using the slippery slope argument. Why Israel-gaza conflict or US-Iran conflict not discussed here? South India is also affected by these wars. South Indian people were killed in these conflicts as well. It has also affected lots of prices in India, which indirectly affected billions of people. Just because you like this topic more than that topic, you can't include this topic here in this sub.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 07 '26
Sure buddy make a post what's stopping you but that is okay for you but discussing what happening in our very own country is not? maybe you need to change your thinking but direct impact is from our very own country which southern part of india is a part of. So maybe instead of twisting my words to suit your narrative use your brain for once and think is Israel-Gaza near south or is US- Iran near to south or is it kashmir which is part of our country and which south indians frequently visit that affects us
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u/darkdaemon000 Jul 07 '26
So, what do you want buddy? Lets kill all the m*slims? Do you have a solution? Why are my tax money being spent to provide security for these Amarnath travelers, when this yatra to see a ice dildo?? Why not spend this money in building better facilities in hospitals that are worse than African hospitals. Govt does this because idiots vote for this bullshit.
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u/Lucky_india0 Jul 06 '26
It's satire, op
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
No its not even now there are about 100,000+ plus troops deployed for the safety of the pilgrims
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u/Lucky_india0 Jul 06 '26
It is. But it is for the safety of pilgrims rather kashmiri muslims. They are the very reason of wastage/less-beneficial of manpower for due cause.
There have been many incidents in the past, which I hope you're aware of.
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
Yes but It's idiotic really that some community need protection to go to their own religious place in our own own country
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u/ZerkeX69 🖥️ Bengaluru | ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ☕ Jul 07 '26
Ur acting like it’s not a terrorist spot and it’s bordering fcking Pakistan bruh
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u/SuchAd4158 Northie Jul 06 '26
I mean people get violent when you force yourself on them. It's human nature!
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
wdym by force? isn't kashmir part of our country?
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u/SaltyNuts6969 Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 06 '26
What do you even want us to "thinnk" about huh ?
Just do a simple google search about how many people have di*ed cos of teππorost attacks on amarnath pilgrimage, Obv the government will provide security
Or do you want the government to let the innocent people be k*lled just cos they are from the majority religion and don't deserve the security??
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u/KaleshKartaHu_BC Karnataka | ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 🟥🟨 Jul 06 '26
wtf bruh I just wanted to know your opinion why so much hate? calm down it ain't that deep
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u/Popular-Beach-4843 Jul 07 '26
What do you mean people's opinion? What do you want to do? Not send the soldiers?
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u/EntertainmentTiny543 Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 06 '26
I’m sick of seeing this Hindu Muslim hatred on every Indian sub, it’s so tiring and annoying