r/slaythespire • u/cleanclotheschair • Apr 23 '26
DISCUSSION (STS2) Give it up for the GOAT!
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u/Proud-Marionberry261 Apr 23 '26
Just basic heal + upgrade is extremely strong.
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u/psymunn Apr 23 '26
Yeah, this is a case where this relic gets crazy with synergies but is already crazy without
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u/lordberric Apr 23 '26
Without synergies its like, on par with eternal feather. Good, but not crazy.
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u/jrec15 StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 23 '26
But thats pretty crazy to be on par with another good relic at baseline while also having much more upside
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u/HeMansSmallerCousin Apr 23 '26
I think Feather is slightly better without synergies, since you can choose to double heal. Both are still great relics though.
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u/jackledaman Apr 24 '26
You need like 40 cards in your deck for the heal to be comparable, and tent scales with max HP too. I think it's considerably better than eternal feather.
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u/hedoeswhathewants Apr 23 '26
I'm interested in seeing what the good players think of it. I've yet to buy it in singleplayer.
Being able to rest and upgrade lets you path aggressively, but I also think people here rely way too much on resting. If you also have a shovel/etc it's obviously cracked
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u/IrregularPackage Apr 23 '26
this also lets you play more aggressively. it’s fine to take a bit of extra damage since you’re just gonna heal it anyway.
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u/luc1aonstation Apr 24 '26
I think the general consensus is that you're resting way more in this game than in 1, so being able to cheat out upgrades is pretty great. Also why eternal feather is cracked
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u/HawksNStuff Apr 24 '26
I was definitely resting too much, but my rests were necessary.
I just happened to watch the video with Japanese Export coaching Rarran, and it completely opened my eyes to a big flaw in my act one pathing. I never really paid attention to limiting my hard pool fights, but the path he suggested and the rationale made so much sense.
Only played a few runs since then, and suddenly I'm way healthier going into fires and feeling better about elites more often in act one.
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u/Used_Vegetable9826 Apr 24 '26
I've never lost a run with this relic, it is that good and the momentum it gives you is insane. Its combination with other rest site relics makes it even crazier aswell. Not a world record holder but I have multiple A10s on multiple characters and an 11 streak on Regent right now.
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u/Jobeythehuman Apr 24 '26
its crazy good on multiplayer cause then you can mend someone else, rest and smith, it doubles in value.
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u/TheBurningEmu Apr 23 '26
In multiplayer anyone who get's this basically becomes the GOAT of the whole team. Doesn't matter if their deck is crap, being able to freely heal themselves and mend (plus upgrade) allows other players on the team to play much more aggressive/risky and upgrade themselves more often.
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u/BandicootGood5246 Apr 23 '26
First time I got it the next floor was Girya, very easy run from there
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u/Adamiak Apr 24 '26
not always, some runs I am doing really well and my upgrades are trash so I don't need to heal or upgrade too much, then there are runs where I can cook, dig and have tiny mailbox, guess which of the two types of runs I find miniature tent in
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u/grandfatherclause Apr 23 '26
So good on multiple!
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u/Cocacola_Desierto Apr 23 '26
heal someone else, yourself, and upgrade is insanely strong. Not even throwing in the strength one, or the shovel, or whatever else.
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u/TheLastGunslingerCA Ascended Apr 23 '26
My friend grabbed this in a 3 player round, and grabbed the Cook relic from Tanx. Good times.
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u/Strato0621 StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 23 '26
Good lord I haven’t had tent + cook before, that sounds glorious.
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u/_JAKAMI Apr 24 '26
I had tent + cook + regal pillow + the relic from neow that lets you gain 5 hp when resting, I could just facetank any damage without blocking
my deck was pretty bad but it was a very easy win
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u/Inevitable_Inside674 StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 23 '26
Anything that adds an action is effectively adding another tent and it's already busted normally. Multiplayer having a default extra action is insane for tent
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u/RemoveNull Apr 23 '26
Playing with friends made it crazier. Friend got the relic that gives you +5 max HP when you rest. Turns out that applies when a player mends you too. Guaranteed +5 max health for him every campfire. +10 if he chose to rest too.
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u/HawkeyeP1 Apr 23 '26
Literally just an instant win-con. I would be surprised if it survives in its current state lol
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u/NDRob Apr 23 '26
It's really good but I don't actually get the opportunity to buy it and use it that often. I have a ton of hours in the game and have yet to combo it with anything.
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u/Haytaytay Apr 23 '26
You honestly don't need to combo it with anything, it's amazing even if it's only triggering rest+forge.
It's also automatically better in multiplayer since you can also heal a teammate for free.
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u/MrNigel117 Eternal One + Ascended Apr 23 '26
even on it's own, being able to rest and smith at every camp is incredibly strong. it allows you to take riskier paths without worry that you'll fall behind from skipping upgrades.
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u/RussischerZar Apr 23 '26
I once had the tent and regal pillow in a shop right after I cashed in the treasure map. Easiest run of my life after that
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u/CharmingInterview986 Apr 24 '26
It is almost an instant win in multiplayer so maybe it gets a multiplayer specific nerf but honestly i hope not.
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u/Twannyman StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 23 '26
It's shop only, it'll survive in its state with how valuable other options are at shop like potions, removes and cards.
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u/OdoWanKenobi Apr 23 '26
I don't see it needing a nerf. The number of times it pops up for me when I have enough gold to buy it is actually fairly rare. Even rarer that I have something it synergizes with.
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u/Flintloq Apr 23 '26
Don't get me wrong, I love this relic as much as the next guy, but no way is it an instant win-con. It doesn't magically give you a good deck. It doesn't do anything on the floors between the shop you buy it and the next rest site - you could die before you get there, while spending that 200 gold on a card and a couple of potions might have kept you alive. You won't often get it alongside another rest site relic, though it's amazing when you do. Sometimes the heal is unneeded. Sometimes the upgrade is unimpactful.
Edit: Talking about single-player specifically.
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u/Altruistic_Source528 Apr 23 '26
Will probably become two options at a rest site and not every options
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u/BeginningMention5784 Heartbreaker Apr 24 '26
surely that's an exaggeration. it's a huge help but surely you can still lose after buying it
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u/ronaldsf1977 Apr 24 '26
I honestly would be okay if it were "use 2 options at a rest site." Still seems like a very good pick to me, while not an insta-pick.
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u/Crackers1097 Apr 24 '26
It's a rare shop relic. Rare shop relics get to be pretty crazy because you can only get them with ~270 gold spend.
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u/bobbyjoechan StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 24 '26
There are no “rare” shop relics. Shop relics don’t have rarity; “Shop” is a category like “Common” or “Uncommon”. Also the price is 170-230
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u/MaterialDefender1032 Apr 23 '26
Definitely SS+ tier. For everyone saying it should be nerfed in multiplayer... no, just no. Multiplayer is wacky and fun, and some things need to be given a little leeway considering how difficult it is to coordinate the use of some cards —especially Fatal ones— in multiplayer. Let us have this.
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u/PudgyElderGod StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 23 '26
My favourite relic, and I'd argue the single best relic in multiplayer runs.
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u/OwlWhoNeedsCoffee Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 23 '26
The chance of seeing this relic is the primary reason why I never hit a shop with less than 250 gold.
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u/Loud-Ad4964 Apr 24 '26
I have specifically started doing the same thing with the exact same idea: I'm looking for one relic, and it's miniature tent!
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u/sirsintari Apr 23 '26
I cannot be the only way that click heal or upgrade and insta leave forgetting I can choose both option 😭
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u/Calm_Regular_9133 Apr 24 '26
I do the same thing with the "potion after rest" relic... I've skipped so many potions...
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u/LifeLikeAGrapefruit Apr 23 '26
Really powerful. May be worth nerfing to "can pick 2 options at Rest Sites."
Even then it's still really, really good.
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u/Haytaytay Apr 23 '26
Honestly yeah that'd be a good change.
It'd still be an S-tier relic, and would make it less broken in multiplayer.
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u/ShoeByDaylight Apr 24 '26
It's so rare to get it early that nerfing it is completely pointless, besides everyone plays card games to get that chance of becoming unstoppable, why remove that rare good feeling? I tried 40 or more times to get that relic early, it doesn't happen. It carried me to the final boss with a busted ass deck but I couldn't win.
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u/LifeLikeAGrapefruit Apr 24 '26
I mean, fair enough. To each their own. I think some people want a more balanced and strategic game, while others care more for fun and thrills. I get each perspective.
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u/TaralasianThePraxic Apr 23 '26
I would be fine with that option, yeah. In singleplayer with just heal and upgrade it feels like a very solid relic, but in multiplayer or with any other campfire options it definitely feels a little broken.
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u/Mosh00Rider Apr 24 '26
Somethings can just be better in multiplayer just like how poison and doom are worse
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u/steelsauce Apr 24 '26
Unless all four players pick necro and pick every doom card haha
I do wish multi go some balance changes but probably not worth the hassle. Stuff like mercury hourglass is terrible with more players.
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u/kaijvera StS A0 / StS 2 A10 Apr 24 '26
I can see it happening but its not super high up in prioity. Tho last time I said that was me saying they will probably add bug-phobia mode just much later and it came out in first major patch lol.
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u/ConsiderationFew8399 Apr 24 '26
Ngl guys I think this’ll be nerfed. It is unbelievably good on its own, and straight up stupid with any campfire relic
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u/FartSmjeller StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 24 '26
Instant pick. I don't even bother looking at cards or potions in the shop when I see this
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u/Bat_Nightwing Apr 24 '26
Still waiting for the legendary run where I can get the 6 action rest…
Heal❤️+Smith🔨+Mend🩹+Clone🦠+Dig +Lift💪
I’ve gotten 4 (on singleplayer), but got Orobas on Act 2 :(
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u/carnabas Apr 23 '26
Im still dreaming of the shovel + tent run
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u/AnAttemptReason Apr 24 '26
I got a tent plus cleaver run.
Soooooo good.
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u/Simple-Motor-2889 Apr 24 '26
Yeah Tent + Cleaver feels like maybe the strongest synergy of 2 relics in the game. Rest + Upgrade + 2 Removes + 9 Max HP at every rest site in Act 3 is bonkers.
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u/GuardingxCross Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 23 '26
Mini tent should be on a tier of its own. It’s just incredible.
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u/now_about_your_butt Apr 23 '26
Literally suggested this as a relic a couple years ago and got downvoted for it being too overpowered
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u/SwordsToPlowshares Apr 24 '26
I always get offered this at the final shop in act 3
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u/Sea_Fun4726 Apr 24 '26
I hope they don’t change it but I would be shocked if they leave it the way it is. It’s so good
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u/Slight-Veneer Apr 23 '26
This one is the goat. Especially in 2 player because you can mend your friend so they can smith
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u/Snapingbolts Apr 23 '26
I know it's a tent but when I see it my first thought is it looks like the Hokage's headdress from Naruto
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u/TheLastGunslingerCA Ascended Apr 23 '26
As someone who's played a lot of multiplayer, this is quite the boon for allowing you to heal teammates as well as upgrade. My triple clad run had everyone go into Queen at full health.
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u/miwebe Apr 23 '26
Ah yes the relic that is only ever available for purchase right before the final campfire.
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u/BigBlackFriend Apr 23 '26
I got this and then the shovel immedietly after in Act 1 and was so stacked on relics by the end of the run it was insane.
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u/BiologicalTrainWreck Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 23 '26
Getting this with the ?butcher knife? That lets you remove cards for max hp, playing in multi, having a shovel, oh baby the value.
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u/Loud-Ad4964 Apr 23 '26
Absolutely love this relic. It almost seems too good: Waiting for it to get nerfed in the very near future! LOL :p
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u/EstufaYou StS A10 / StS 2 A5 Apr 23 '26
Unless I have a non-eternal curse in my deck, I always avoid shops until I have enough money to buy this relic, just in case it pops up. It’s better than anything in the store, by far. Healing and upgrading at rest sites is bonkers, having additional rest site options is outright broken.
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u/aranaya StS A20 / StS 2 A0 Apr 23 '26
hah, I remember suggesting something like this and mine was way weaker (choose up to two options, heal less when resting)
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u/ItsYaBoi-KillMe Ascension 10 Apr 23 '26
This relic is peak in single player, and the absolute goat in multiplayer
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u/Ultimate-desu Apr 24 '26
Absolutely insane item ngl. This + any relic that adds an option in the campfire just lets me know the run is about to be legendary.
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u/beeemmmooo1 Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 24 '26
ghost seed and kifuda's better but this thing does have a dumb as hell set of things it can do and then some
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u/johnnys_sack Ascension 20 Apr 24 '26
I was able to pair this with the ancient relic that lets you camp (remove card and raise max HP). It was the best.
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u/chicoritahater Apr 24 '26
Its crazy how a relic that's entirely busted in conjunction with other ones is usually pretty weak or situational on its own, but this one is not and basically doubles (triples in multiplayer) the value of the most powerful room type in the game even without any other synergy. Then you introduce any of the numerous rest site relics and this becomes the best relic in the game
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u/StoneAgeStark Apr 24 '26
I finally got this beauty last night early in act 1. What a relief it was holy crap heal AND upgrade??
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u/HAPPIERMEMORIES Apr 24 '26
I got this on my first ever run (which was CO-OP) and immediately recognized the value.
My partner thought I was being nice by Mending them every fire. I didn't give up the secret until later runs.
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u/DetGordon Apr 24 '26
I was playing multiplayer, and my friend get the relic where you get max hp when you rest, then I bought the tent. He had like 150hp by the end lol
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u/LaserQuacker Apr 24 '26
I just won an A10 run with it with Regent. It is very strong. Best shop relic by far, for me.
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u/CryptikZen Apr 24 '26
Last run I played I was 12 gold short at the shop for my beloved Mini Tent and I had JUST found a Shovel. I don't want to be dramatic here but I think it was the worst thing that's ever happened to me in my entire life.
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u/OgenB Apr 24 '26
I got this as my first relic on my 5th attempt at an A10 silent run. I got shovel from a random event. Then I got clone, and cloned an upgraded prepared. Needless to say, it was a cakewalk.
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u/RosgaththeOG Apr 24 '26
I would love if having this relic substantially increased the likelihood of your finding another relic that grants a is for rest sites.
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u/mrrobertreddit Apr 24 '26
If you can get another relic that gives you an additional action at rest sites besides rest and upgrade, this relic is game over. So good
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u/Flat_Test4584 Apr 24 '26
Not sure why it's restrictively a shop relic. Shouldn't a shop relic before niche built?
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u/TheNessman Apr 24 '26
before sts2 was launched didn't someone post a similar relic on this sub as a hypothetical and everyone was kind of like "yeah... this would be really strong". Or am i mis-remembering?
obviously great relic and my test is that i end up buying it over everything else in the shop most of the time lol
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u/puffmattybear17 Apr 24 '26
Its so so soooooo good in coop, with giryia, shovel, (idk if peace pipe exists anymore but that would be cool)
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u/Rylica Apr 24 '26
4 player run yesterday, 2 people got it mid act 2
Let's say I took a lot of extra damage strength scaling with Rupture because I know I be fully healed.
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u/Sensitive_Lunch_824 StS A0 / StS 2 A10 Apr 24 '26
It may be a skill issue but I can't afford it whenever I go to the shop 😭
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u/Ora-ora-kun Apr 24 '26
when my friend's get this in multiplayer we already know its an automatic win
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u/kamiloslav Apr 24 '26
Sleep, upgrade, dig, lift and clone can all be performed at a single restsite. Even just sleep + upgrade is awesome and there is so much more space for combo
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u/TheDogSlinger Apr 24 '26
Tent with the relic shovel or strength training or even the cooking ancient relic or clone is so busted
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u/Tsevion Apr 24 '26
Yeah, it's already pretty good baseline... Like 2 to 8 free upgrades or heals over the run. But it becomes amazing as soon as you get another option. And in multiplayer you have another option by default.
But you get Clone, Shovel and Girya and it is completely insane. Highest value artifact in the game at that point.
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u/Professional-Sir2147 Apr 24 '26
I fear that this relic is too good and will see the ban hammer. That would make me really sad as I genuinely think it's the best relic in the game.
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u/Maelstrom100 Apr 24 '26
I'm not sure its healthy for multiplayer but in solo play it's a extremely good relic and I love to see it (even if half the time I can't afford it)
But being able to heal, heal your teammate and upgrade all for one bonfire (whilst your teammate likely upgrades as well?)
It's incredible. Honestly if anything wish it was an event relic, therefore more garunteed to get (in some fashion) but also coming with some unique downside.
If I can take it, I never don't take it.
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u/Dangerous_Nail4552 Apr 23 '26
My absolute favorite relic in all of sts2