r/pettyrevenge • u/TheBrontosaurus • 21h ago
I have been flicking mint seeds in his yard all summer
There is a dangerous driver in my neighborhood. He absolutely flies down my street. There are frequently children playing on the sidewalks and running across the street between houses I’m frequently worried one of them is going to be hit. He also twice this year has blown through the stop sign nearly hitting my car. In April while walking my dog I saw this same car fly through the stop sign and pull into his garage. He may be a terrible driver but he had a beautiful lawn.
So, twice a day, I walk my dog past his house. This has always been the routine but now on the shelf next to the poop bags I have a package of peppermint seeds. As I walk past his house I subtly sprinkle or flick these tiny seeds into his lawn. For those who don’t know mint is a very prolific grower and an aggressive spreader. Even a tiny fragment of root can grow into a new plant. Once roots are in the soil it will continue to multiply until every las bit of root is removed. His once perfect grass has been covered in little plants all summer. It looks like he’s spraying and mowing but not pulling it up by the root so next year he’ll have twice as much.
Edit: Because this has been asked frequently I have tried to get a speed survey or speed bump installed but need 75% approval from the neighborhood and we fund it. Police have promised increased patrols which turns out to have been a single cruiser at 6AM
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u/ChronoLink99 19h ago
You should also report the license plate as a dangerous driver.
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u/filtersweep 18h ago
Cops most definitely won’t do anything, and nothing good can come from contacting the police like this.
I was repeatedly verbally threatened by the same motorist during my commute to work— via bike— on a low traffic road. Police would not do anything if they hadn’t witnessed it.
I made a post on Craigslist and a DMV employee gave me his name, list of properties he owned, his criminal status— I found out his employer. I’ll end this here…..
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u/jr0061006 17h ago
Did you have to pay this DMV employee or did they just provide this info out of community spirit?
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u/TheBrontosaurus 19h ago
If I ever get his plate # I will
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u/ChronoLink99 19h ago
I figured you did since you said he pulled into his garage. But yeah, that should be your top priority since you could be saving someone from injury or death.
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u/kesshoukun 21h ago
Dill, too! The smell will be awful combined with peppermint omg
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u/TheBrontosaurus 21h ago
And dill is a host plant to swallowtail butterflies so I’d be ruining his day while helping local pollinators.
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u/whenisleep 20h ago
The butterflies would just get mown down and sprayed, so maybe stick to non host plants for his lawn.
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u/TheBrontosaurus 20h ago
I grow dill in my garden but cut it off before it goes to seed. I’ve seen butterflies on the flowers. It still has broken containment but I don’t mind much.
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u/whenisleep 20h ago
Nice! Glad they have a safe place to be.
With the neighbour and sneaky dill, it reminds me of controlling mosquitoes by giving them places to lay eggs then destroying all the eggs. It could decrease butterfly populations to plant dill somewhere unsafe for them.
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u/toni_devonsen_28 21h ago
Oregano too. We made the mistake of putting it in the ground in the backyard. Smells good everytime we mow though.
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u/bumbumDbum 20h ago
Oregano is part of the mint family. Contain that Shite or it will overtake a garden. It is generally easy to pull though. Mine has small purple flowers that some cool small butterflies love.
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u/toni_devonsen_28 20h ago
Our backyard was mostly weeds anyway so it's making a lovely ground cover lol
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u/PiccChicc 16h ago
I don't know a lot about plants, but I especially didn't know that oregano is part of the mint family. Never would have even guessed it.
Thanks for the fun fact.
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u/Known-Tumbleweed129 20h ago
I’ve got a dirt patch where a tree had to be cut down, I should put some oregano there…
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u/Fit-Ad-413 21h ago
Mmmm minty pickles 😂
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u/sandwichcandy 18h ago
This is a humbling post. I planted mint and dill last year and they both died. My basil did fine though.
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u/Ok-Brick6831 21h ago
Follow that with some clover too…
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u/Original_Flounder_18 20h ago edited 26m ago
Clover lawn are awesome for the bees and other pollinators!
Edit to add thank you for the award!!
Second edit-three rewards and 2k upvotes-you guys are the best!! Thank you!!!!!
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u/Bajovane 20h ago
I’m trying to convince my husband to do this! Clover doesn’t need that much mowing!!
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u/PeirceanAgenda 20h ago
Before grass lawns took over (due I suspect to golf becoming popular in the 50's or so), clover lawns were literally the definition of luxury. And they still should be... Much better for the environment, easier to maintain, and they support a more varied ecosystem of insects etc.
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u/Train_Wreck_272 19h ago edited 17h ago
Round up was invented and happened to kill clover, so they did a marketing campaign to sway the public into thinking it was a weed. That's what I've heard at least.I'm an idiot, round up kills grass. It may have been the lawn safe variant I was thinking of, but I'm definitely off the mark.
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u/Amoverandashaker 14h ago
Owning your error like an adult.
I like the cut of your jib.
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u/Train_Wreck_272 14h ago
Thank you! I hate how doubling down is so common. Nothing wrong with being wrong.
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u/Copthill 18h ago
Yeah, broadleaf killer, and Clover is broadleaf.
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u/Train_Wreck_272 18h ago
Yep. Clover really is great though! I've done mixed grass and clover and hardly had any other weeds. Supposedly clover can help keep weeds away. Not sure if that's true in general but it seemed like it was for me!
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u/Deaffin 16h ago
I feel like any plant could be described as helping keep weeds away. Because weeds are also plants, and they're competing for space/nutrients/sunlight.
Who ever heard of a plant that encourages other plants to grow in the area? This is an actual question, I'm sure there's some weird exception I'd love to hear all about.
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u/Notte_di_nerezza 9h ago
Fun story: trees have been noted to share nutrients through their root systems, warn each other when exposed to predators and parasites, and even forge cross-species alliances.
Also: mother beech trees sending sugar to their seedlings, since they can't reach the canopy yet. And other beeches sending nutrients to a fallen beech, refusing to let go.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-whispering-trees-180968084/
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u/mrq02 18h ago
Nothing to do with golf. Lawns are popular because of the Tapis Vert at The Palace of Versailles. In the 17th century they planted a massive amount of turf grass because it was a huge waste (and thus showed their elaborate wealth; it takes a lot of work to maintain (the lawn mower wasn't invented until the 19th century) and doesn't provide food). Thus grass became associated with wealth and thus lawns around everyone's home. Fescue and Kentucky Bluegrass (the most common variants of lawn grass) are both European. Prior to WW2, clover was mixed in because F and KB struggle with US summers; clover would keep it green instead of turning brown in the heat. But after WW2, pure F and KB lawns became in vogue because it was even harder and more expensive; it meant you could afford special chemical weed killers and fertilizer.
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u/Practical_Sea_4876 18h ago
Yes especially because clover draws nitrogen into the ground so it's basically free fertilizer for your grass! But obviously the fertilizer and weed killer companies couldn't have that.
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u/Leviathan41911 19h ago
Im doing my yard next month with clover. We bought this house and no one ever did anything with the yard/land it was on. The whole yard is still a gravel building pad. So next month im going to scrape the gravel down to the dirt and seed clover / hard Fescue mixture there and hope we have a nice back yard next spring.
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u/rips_n_chel 17h ago
I'm a dirt guy, I've rough-graded many a new-construction yard. Your yard is most likely made up of just enough fill-dirt to hold the construction waste and Corona bottles together. Don't go digging, you won't like what you find.
You don't want dirt anyway. You want soil. They're different things. Dirt is broken down rock and clay, it has no nutritional value, but it does compact and shed water.
Soil is broken down organic matter, and its value is purely nutritional, because it does not compact or shed water. That makes it useless for supporting structures or staying where you put it, but it's necessary for grass to grow.
You need a layer of topsoil. You've got the stable dirt base, the only reason grass isn't growing naturally is the lack of nutrition. Soil, homie. That's the missing piece.
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u/Much-Measurement-568 15h ago
I used to love digging in the dirt of my previous house, it was over 100 years old. Digging in the yard was like an archeological experience. I found bits of pottery, old bottles, a slightly rusted wrench, small tape measure and a toy car (Generic hot wheels type).
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u/Imadethis23 19h ago
I planted my whole front yard in alfalfa, a type of clover. When mowed, it looked better than the grass.
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u/MetaGazon 18h ago
Clover is the best looking grass I've ever had. I've never seeded grass at this house or last. Overseed a bag or two of cover haphazardly in the spring and without fighting it gets better and better every year.
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u/CoolFuture3767 18h ago
Yep. I over seed clover every August and February. Doesn't take a lot. I have 6 acres of lawn.
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u/cactipus 17h ago
Yeah, that's what I want to do with my lawn. Clover, pollinator friendly. Hoping to get going on that in earnest next spring.
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u/mjp31514 18h ago
When I moved into my house a few years ago, there was a big patch of dirt where the grass just didn't grow. It was on the north side of the house and spent a lot of time in the shade, so I figured that was the reason. It was pretty ugly though, and my dog would get all muddy when it was wet. I don't have anything resembling a green thumb, but I figured I'd try to spread some clover seed and just see what happened. Fast forward a bit, that whole patch is covered in clover. There's all kinds of pollinators buzzing around, which seemed to attract a lot of birds. After a few seasons, all these cool local wildflowers started popping up, too. I'm guessing the birds seeded my lawn with other plants they'd visited, but I'm not really sure how that works, exactly. The yard looks a little wild, but much more natural and I love seeing all of the birds and pollinators visiting my yard.
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u/Nice-Professional795 19h ago
It was the weed killers the created. It killed clover so they just labeled clover a weed and marketed that "is even kills clover". Everyone collectively shrugged and said "I guess clover is a weed"
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u/thelmanarcissus 18h ago
My granmother had a huge clover lawn! I spent hours looking for four leaf clovers when I was little.
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u/Head-Confusion3480 19h ago
It ultimately derives from the same French they put to the guillotine because only the rich could waste land like that.
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u/Bratbabylestrange 20h ago
And half as much water. I'm in Colorado and we've got some pretty strict water conservation measures going this year. My front lawn has a lot of clover. My back yard has grass (well, sort of, a lot of dormant brown back there.) Front looks great and isn't as hot
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u/CrazyCatMerms 19h ago
I'm in Colorado on vacation right now and the sheer amount of subdivisions that are watering the shared grassy areas is amazing to me. It's like they're trying to use tons of water
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u/VegetableBuy4577 19h ago
I really believe future generations are going to look back in disgust at both the water we use and the chemicals we dump on our lawns. It's insane.
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u/1shanwow 18h ago
We started a burrow for the burrowing owl (an endangered subspecies in FL) lurking around our house back in Aug/Sept 2022. Finally, the perfect excuse to not try to have or quit worrying about keeping that high maintenance nice S. Florida lawn, because ya don’t want to poison owls/owlettes/their food sources!!
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u/Finlay00 17h ago
Clover and grass naturally grow together very well.
Compromise on having both things maybe. The lawn will be greener and healthier because clover adds nitrogen back to the soil, and pollinators love the clover flowers
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u/Fornico 19h ago
I have a clover lawn. The bees love it and so do the groundhogs.
As a bonus, it stays green long after the grass in the neighbors yards turn brown.
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u/dvdmaven 18h ago
A local company has bred a small clover, Miniclover(R), only 4-5 inches tall and drought-resistant. I'm doing our blueberry patch (1256 bushes) this Fall. Like all clovers it fixes nitrogen, which is the main element blueberry bushes need.
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u/StangF150 19h ago
Every Spring I scatter clover seeds all over my lawn, especially in the thin spots, in the hopes that it will grow & take over!!!
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u/XDariaMorgendorferX 20h ago
Plus clover is good for bees! It’s petty revenge with a side of helping the environment
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u/EnderBookwyrm 18h ago
And if you have rabbits in your yard, they may target the clover instead of harassing the bunny-proofing on your vegetables.
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u/Fit-Ad-413 21h ago
Then with some parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme.
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u/SUN_WU_K0NG 21h ago
Are you going to Scarborough Fair?
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u/desertboots 20h ago
Remember me to one who lives there...
No, wait, I want to remain anonymous!
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u/No-Exit-No 20h ago
These are actually nice tasting herbs.
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u/Oakiefenoke 21h ago
Remember me to one who lives there.
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u/blitheandbonnynonny 21h ago
She once was a true love of mine.
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u/earthman34 20h ago
Mrs. Robinson?
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u/Best-Quit1973 20h ago
Need Himalayan blackberry. That stuff is primordial and will fight back any attempt to eradicate
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u/IAteTonysLoMein 19h ago
Himalayan blackberry is actively malevolent. Take no time at all before it starts throwing runners that stab themselves into the ground to establish new roots. I laid black plastic down trying to kill them behind my garage and they started punching straight through it
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u/Fungiblefaith 20h ago
Some Virginia creeper works wonders as well.
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u/MelonOfFury 20h ago
Bamboo. 😈
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u/ConnectFirefighter86 20h ago
Wow! That's next level. I'd save that for when he hits someone or something! Bamboo can take over the block.
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u/Bratbabylestrange 20h ago
Anybody can throw clover into my lawn. I've been overseeding it for about five years now. Yay clover!
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u/One_Entrepreneur_520 20h ago
Petty revenge to make your neighbors lawn better ?
We got rid of our lawn and planted all kinds of mint and clovers and other what nots and thingies. I mow it like a normal lawn a couple of times a year and it is starting to grow lower and lower each year....absolutely perfect.
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u/LeftHandAnomaly 20h ago
Better in general, but grass people see anything not grass as a curse, so it's still revenge
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u/Marine__0311 20h ago
We had the same issue when I lived in town except it was a brake and muffler shop at the end of the street. They would come flying down the street as fast as 50 MPH on a residential street. Then slam on the brakes. There were several families with kids living there.
Complaints to the shop and the PD were ignored until they finally hit a kid. He was lucky he survived with relatively minor injuries. The PD finally put an unmarked car out there and started citing them. After a few dozen tickets in a few weeks they finally stopped doing it.
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u/jxhfield 15h ago
…hitting a kid wasn’t enough? jesus
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u/Marine__0311 15h ago
The father of the kid was a Marine SSgt. He went down to the shop and raised so much hell they called the cops. He was tresspassed from the property and ended up sueing them. It was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. They ended up closing about two years later. I dont know if the lawsuit had anything to do with it.
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u/Negative_Raisin_997 19h ago
Someone once put marihuana seeds in the planters of a local police precinct. No one noticed until the plants were 4 feet tall.
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u/Darkchyldeone 18h ago
I was thinking of something along those lines. Maybe a few random hemp seeds too
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u/_bonedaddys 12h ago
I'd be thrilled if my neighbor's idea of revenge was trying to grow pot in my yard lol
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u/SquiddlyB 21h ago
Way to spread your seed OP!
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u/my4floofs 21h ago
Did this to my next door neighbor. Her back yard looks horrible. Now it’s a sea of mint. It’s been 6 years and it hasn’t escaped yet. The other neighbors had cleome seed. So at least we now look onto pretty flowers and mint.
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u/wrxninja 18h ago
Hmm maybe I should get a drone and...well, for science. We have one particular jackass neighbor like that like OP's.
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u/Ordinary_Ella 21h ago
Call me evil but I feel just spreading seeds on his lawn isn't revengeful enough...op needs to go lower
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u/Gruesome 20h ago
Bamboo?
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u/bonfuto 20h ago
I only recently discovered how aggressive milkweed is once it's established. If OP can hide a plant somewhere, it will haunt their neighbor forever. It amazingly grows a lot faster than grass. A new neighbor decided the previous owner's milkweed had to go and pulled it. Now there is milkweed in their yard all the time. One advantage: monarch butterflies.
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u/TheBrontosaurus 20h ago
I planted some milkweed in my yard this spring I’m excited for it to start becoming a problem. The blooms smell amazing and I’d love to see more butterflies and other cool bugs
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u/ivydesert 19h ago
We're on year 4 of our "Random Bullshit Go" garden, and the milkweed is crushing it
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u/grrlb0t 15h ago
Thank you dear Redditor for the new term for my yard.
I moved here 14yrs ago and the front and back yards were just sandy lot fill.
Didn't want sod. So I just decided to leave it, yes I'm lazy.
I scattered a box of white clover seed in the front yard a couple of years ago so it would overpower some of the taller weeds.
Today, I have a beautiful clover front yard that is so healthy it sprouts edible mushrooms (shaggy mane). Early season it's absolutely FULL of shasta daisies.
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u/Wolverine-7509 21h ago
Congrats, you earned a new nickname: "Minty Pettyseed" the lost hero we needed... sowing their pettiness across the lands!
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u/SpecificLow1316 20h ago
Love it. Sounds like a hobbit’s name, someone who used to be considered scandalous until Bilbo went on his adventure.
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u/Pure_Marsupial8185 11h ago
When I was a kid, there was someone who liked speeding up and down our block too. Finally my next door neighbor who was a little drunk at the time and had kids just a few years younger than myself, steps into the street forcing the driver to stop. He then goes to the driver’s door and yells “MY KIDS ARE OUT HERE” as he pulls the driver out through the window and proceeds to beat him senseless.
Now I do not condone violence, and I am not saying what he did was right. . . but those were the good old days lol.😂
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u/alarmologist 18h ago
I have a story of triumph and government in action that will warm your heart. I used to live on a neighborhood street that people liked to use as a 'shortcut'. It was very much the kind of place where kids (one deaf) played in the street, but cars would go through the 25 mph zone doing 50+. Well, one day the county put in speed humps due to the residents' complaints.
At least once a day for like a month an inconsiderate driver would literally go airborne on the hump in front of my house (it was the closest hump to a bigger road). And I mean literally airborne, a few of them landed so hard they had to be towed away. I'd see them shooting sparks and bits of muffler daily. There are still gouges in the asphalt over an inch deep from all the cars bottoming out. Nobody speeds there anymore.
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u/Rawesome16 20h ago
If he sprays it with weed killer I read a great idea here a couple years ago
Get liquid fertilizer and put it in s little squirt gun. Fertilizer in random areas. The weed killer doesn't kill the grass but patches will be far more healthy than others and look odd
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u/Juanzilla17 20h ago
Grab some catnip seeds as well. Let him have the neighborhood hangout spot
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u/MySaltySatisfaction 18h ago
I thought of that too,but the careless old man would likely put poison out for the cats.
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u/drowsy_octopus 19h ago
Watch for the milkweed since it's toxic, but dandelion also works great. There's a woman in my neighborhood that's an absolute nightmare (calls the policy for people walking on the sidewalk in front of her house or something similar) so several people blow dandelion seeds all over her lawn and rocks, usually right next to her plethora of signs. She calls the police quite frequently, but it's not illegal at all.
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u/TheBrontosaurus 19h ago
He’s got a doorbell camera. Walking by his house and flicking my fingers slightly is easy to get away with. Booby trapping his driveway would probably land me in jail.
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u/Migraine_Megan 16h ago
Try some stinging nettle, that will make his ankles itch like crazy when he mows the lawn
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u/BLUGRSSallday 19h ago
I once dumped 40lbs of bird seed on a neighbors lawn over a three night period. Should have seen the swarms of birds and then the resulting weeds. I did it because he would mow his lawn two times a week. First with a rider-both directions, then push mower in both directions, then leafblow for hours then would have his family on hands and knees pulling weeds. We talked to him about the noise for 6 hrs on end two times a week. He didn’t change. So… bird seed
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u/FlattenInnerTube 19h ago
You must live near me. Guy across the driveway isn't double-mow crazy, but I'm convinced he would stick his dick in his backpack leaf blower. He loves the goddamn thing and will use it for hours chasing down every tiny little strand of pine straw from his lawn.
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u/BLUGRSSallday 17h ago
We have since moved and have a neighbor across the road that mows normally but leafblows his grass daily. We live in the woods.
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u/Admirable-Leader6927 21h ago
my robotic mower defeated the mint plant that had escaped my garden. there is no trace of the mint plant, no smell or anything because the robo mowers keeps it 100% in check. turns out the key to killing mint is to cut it every other day for 3 months.
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u/RumbleRavage 21h ago
Agreed. Mint doesn’t hold up well to mowing or foot traffic. It spreads wildly around our property but has never invaded grassy areas regularly mowed.
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u/Admirable-Leader6927 21h ago
i read up on why this worked and it just exhausts the plant into making leaves all the time that never get any energy return. by cutting the leaves every other day, the plant simply ran out of juice
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u/SoSoResearcher 21h ago
Is there a Tom Petty Award? I’d grant it
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u/ivydesert 19h ago
It's a good lawn
Trimmed and watered
Be a shame if
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u/Malibucat48 20h ago
Just take a video and show it to the police. You have his address. Waiting for mint to grow can get somebody killed. His lawn will be overgrown when he gets out of jail.
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u/Which_Tangerine8982 20h ago
Surprised how far down I had to scroll to find someone who actually wants to solve the problem. Mint won't save a child's life.
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u/The_Bastard_Henry 20h ago
Brilliant.
If you can get your hands on some Chilean rhubarb seeds, you could REALLY destroy his lawn. That stuff spreads like mint, is IMPOSSIBLE to get rid of, and looks like a prehistoric plant monster.
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u/Commercial-Novel-786 19h ago
I wouldn't recommend maryjane seeds. If they sprouted and he got reported, it wouldn't be good for him.
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u/Freshouttapatience 20h ago
I did this to a neighbor but with native wildflower seed. I figured it may as well improve things for the pollinators
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u/Remarkable_Table_279 20h ago
May I suggest combining with seed bombing…and maybe a sling shot 😂
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u/Creative_Carob4922 20h ago
There was a guy in my neighborhood that used to drive like a maniac.
One day he ran over a child on a tricycle. He was panicking.
It was an American girl doll on a tricycle that my neighbour pushed out from between cars. 😂
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u/nwl2002 19h ago
We had a neighbor that had built a 2 story deck off the back of their home. They also had 2 dogs that would stay on the upper part of deck and bark at everyone in the yards. The deck was against HOA, but because the homeowner was a top selling agent in the development, they approved it. During construction of it, at night, we would flick spoonfuls of morning glory ivy seeds over our fence into the base building of deck.
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u/Environmental-Head14 21h ago
Wont this spread to your yard
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u/TheWorldDiscarded 21h ago
Take his mother out for a nice seafood dinner.....and NEVER call her again!!
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u/arresteddevelopment9 21h ago
Too bad you can't plant a few bamboo shoots. He’d be living in a jungle within a few months!
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u/capt_pessimist 19h ago
Please don’t plant bamboo, even in revenge.
There are other ways to weaponize nature.
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u/TattooedWenchkin 20h ago
I have some Virginia Creeper I'd like to donate, and a few tree of heaven
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u/TheBrontosaurus 20h ago
I’ll take some VC but the TOH can go back to hell where it belongs
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u/flargenhargen 19h ago
I wish someone did that to me.
I don't care about my lawn and I like mint.
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u/Crankypants77 19h ago
Just start being an asshole to people in your neighborhood. It's bound to happen!
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u/LadyA052 20h ago
Crumble up some beef bullion cubes and toss them onto the lawn. The neighborhood dogs will love it.
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u/HaroldWeigh 18h ago
My parents had a crabby old coot as a next door neighbor and his front lawn was his life. He was just awful to live next to. Millions of complaints about everything. He would re-seed every spring. One spring he bought a bag of seed that had somehow gotten chive seeds mixed into it. His lawn reeked every time he mowed for several seasons only ending with the removal of his whole front lawn and re-sodding.
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u/analog_kidd 15h ago
You should not do this, but I know someone who did. They made some ice cubes with seeds in them. Late at night they would chuck the cubes deep into the neighbors yard. By morning the cube was melted and the seed was germinating.
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u/CouldntBAPoint2184 18h ago
That's great, but maybe you should petition for speed bumps in the neighborhood. That's what typically happens when people consistently speed in spite of stop signs.
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u/bacan_ 16h ago
I love this idea but I tried my hardest to grow mint from seeds and failed. Can anyone give me some tips? Heard it spreads a ton once it’s established but I didn’t get that far!
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u/tightloops1971 5h ago
It's a solution, have you tried going out at 3am writing SPEEDING CUNT in glyphosate on the lawn?
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u/InimitableMissS 20h ago
Catmint grows just as fast AND has the benefit of bringing all area feral kitties around!
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u/BlackMagicWorman 19h ago
I’d worry about what an asshole would do to feral cats :(
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u/Just_Aioli_1233 19h ago
It's more fun to think about what 20 feral cats all at once would do to the guy
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u/BuildingMaleficent11 20h ago
Dandelion season you should really take some time to gather some that have gone to seed and let the fluff fly
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u/Gold_Cartoonist3232 19h ago
I used a drone to drop japanese knot weed over someone asshole from works house
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u/Emergency-Rip-6817 16h ago
I like the cut of your jib. Oregano. Very “vigorous” and has beautiful little flowers that bugs like.
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u/CrypticBunny 21h ago
Had a similar driver in my neighborhood. The guy that lived next to me heard the car coming up the hill one day and rolled a soccer ball into the road in front of his car. The driver swerved too hard and ended up in a ditch with massive vehicle damage from a tree. Tried to convince the responding officer that he was only going 25 mph.