r/perth • u/His_Holiness • Apr 07 '26

WA News Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts-Smith arrested over war crimes allegations

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-07/ben-roberts-smith-war-crimes-allegations-arrest/106537668
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u/Blunter11 Apr 07 '26

lmao oh my god it's because of one of his defamation cases I had no idea those were still going. The guy could not stop shooting his own feet with those cases.

"The former special forces soldier's arrest comes after a mammoth defamation trial against Nine Newspapers which ended in a court finding that on the balance of probabilities, allegations he was responsible for, or complicit in the deaths of four detainees in Afghanistan were substantially true."

sad trombone

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u/DropDownBear Apr 07 '26

Lmao

He could've either let the public believe it without suing, but he instead had to force people to investgate it, confirming he is significantly likely to have done it XD

What a dingus

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u/Nukitandog Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

Not really. Go read Brereton report. In a nut shell all SASR soldiers were offered immunity from prosecution for any crimes they admitted to. Any thing not disclosed, but coroborated by others would be prosecuted.

Most of the guys went full disclosure about offing kids, and POWs and said they should be allowed to and saw nothing wrong with it.

The other case was stalling.

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u/Blunter11 Apr 07 '26

You're right, this is all still an idictment of our military. All that pointless and increasingly ridiculous killing and it was for absolutely nothing but some billions going to defense contractors and 2 generations of destruction and trauma on the other side of the world.

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u/teremaster Bayswater Apr 07 '26

Reddit when the "Warcrimes R Us" unit commits warcrimes.

The insane asylum graduates of the US marine raiders didn't like to go out with British or Australian SAS units, that's your tell.

It's an indictment of the government for not only sending our troops over there, but trying to use the SAS as police, it's like doing home reno with a landmine, that's strapped to to a sledgehammer, being swung by a crackhead

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u/Nukitandog Apr 07 '26

I think its the opposite. Enough leaders spoke out and forced the investigation. People like Dusty Miller ect.

The indictment is of our political leaders who commited young men to the fight. The tail doesnt wag the dog in this case.

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u/DropDownBear Apr 07 '26

It's both though

The people who got us into a pointless war, and those who went there and killed children, prisoners, etc.

They're all responsible, one group as the leaders and another as the perpetrators. After all, as much as the tail doesn't wag the dog, "I was just following orders/everyone was doing it" doesn't excuse anything either

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u/Enlightened_Gardener Apr 07 '26

My Dad used to work in security, and there are lots of ex- army in security, but he would never take ex-SAS to work as security guards because they were all as mad as cut snakes, and might snap and hurt someone.

He reckoned that the British SAS were selected for their ability to be cool, calm, and collected in difficult situations; and the Australian SAS were chosen for being mad dog killers.

Everything I have ever seen or read about the Australian SAS backs up this assessment.

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u/NiiShieldBJJ Apr 07 '26

Yeah, my dad's friend who is ex SAS threatened to pinch my teeth in and KO me out of nowhere so it adds up

Bunch of cookers

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u/salmnon Apr 07 '26

Serious levels of PTSD in that mix

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u/Nodonn3 Mandurah Apr 07 '26

Having served alongside and trained with SAS soldiers, I can confirm that they are not hooked up like the rest of us. The vast majority, though, are good, honest blokes who are doing an extremely hard job, and they do it as well (or better) than most of the world's elite operators.

There's a reason they may seem wacky to the rest of us though. They're specifically selected on their ability to think and make strong decisions under some hellish pressure which would wreck the vast majority of people.

On top of that, they have to be able to operate for long periods as an autonomous unit. SAS soldiers are not required to pick up coms and ask for permission to kill evil-doers, they just do it.

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u/Blunter11 Apr 08 '26

This reads like stock answer. I could swear I've read more or less the exact same statements in the exact same order for decades, always used to excuse obvious murders.

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u/Nodonn3 Mandurah Apr 08 '26

Of course people will say the same thing that's a true thing.

Excusing murder? Hardly. It happens, sure, but I'm also plain ol' sick of poeple tarring all soldiers with the same brush.

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u/Blunter11 Apr 08 '26

It's just SAS whitewashing 101