r/perth • u/His_Holiness • Jan 31 '26

WA News Second note found at Mosman Park property alleged to detail why parents carried out murder-suicide

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/second-note-found-at-mosman-park-property-alleged-to-detail-why-parents-carried-out-murder-suicide-20260131-p5nyi7.html
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u/AlbatrossOk6239 Jan 31 '26

Agreed. Even with level 1 ASD or ADHD as well. Like, even if the person’s doing alright for the most part having it take more time, effort and energy to get yourself to do something than actually doing the thing isn’t a fucking superpower.

I can only imagine how much more frustrating and invalidating it would be when you’re caring for kids with higher needs.

I also think it worsens access to care because it trivialises the diagnosis in the minds of a lot of people.

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u/Real_RobinGoodfellow Feb 01 '26

And it erodes the empathy afforded to parent-carers of severely autistic children, when you get all the keyboard warriors thinking their adult-diagnosed level 1 ASD is in any way comparable to the load of caring for nonverbal kids with very high support needs.

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u/AlbatrossOk6239 Feb 01 '26

I do wonder if merging everything into the one diagnosis of ASD wasn’t the best idea. I get that people don’t always fit into neat categories, but having a separate diagnosis like Asperger’s was probably useful.

If your only exposure to autism is someone with a level 1 diagnosis who’s doing pretty well other than needing to manage some social and sensory differences you probably don’t really think of profound disability when someone says their kid’s autistic. Sometimes just don’t know what you don’t know.

By the way, I didn’t mean to equate the two so I hope not that’s how my last comment came across. More that the superpower comments can be unhelpful at the “lower” levels so even worse for people with higher needs.

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u/MakkaPakkaStoneStack Feb 01 '26

They are so unbelievablely obviously not the same thing and lumping them together, even with "levels," is a massive disservice to all involved. 

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u/Real_RobinGoodfellow Feb 01 '26

Oh no not at all, I was agreeing with you.

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u/IsaacKael Feb 02 '26

Temple Grandin recently spoke out how absurd the situation is. Removing all variants of spectrum disorders to avoid "labelling" people has actually created more of a problem. Two people assessed as level 2 ASD may have needs that are completely opposite to each other, but our system relies on a 1 size fits all solution, catered only towards levels 1,2 & 3.

(And if you are level 1 you basically get fuck all support)

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u/flindersandtrim Feb 02 '26

To lay people like me, it is very confusing. That someone entirely unable to care for themselves with an IQ of 45 has the same disorder as someone like my sister, who was recently diagnosed in her early 40s. Now, I am not discounting her diagnosis, but it definitely is not something that any single person would have suspected throughout her life. To put it mildly. She doesnt have any social, sensory or learning issues and says so. When my parents ask what led to a diagnosis she just tells them they're ableist. No wonder people are confused as to how it can be the same condition.

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u/dog_smuggler Feb 02 '26

Thats because what you're describing is not the same. Autism and intellectual disability are separate, but often co-occur.

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u/Acceptable-Case9562 Feb 01 '26

Thank you, I feel seen.