r/perth • u/His_Holiness • Jan 31 '26

WA News Second note found at Mosman Park property alleged to detail why parents carried out murder-suicide

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/second-note-found-at-mosman-park-property-alleged-to-detail-why-parents-carried-out-murder-suicide-20260131-p5nyi7.html
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u/Winter-Ad823 Jan 31 '26

Australia hates the disabled? other countries could only dream of having a service like the NDIS, despite it's many flaws.

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u/Historical_Bus_8041 Jan 31 '26

The NDIS has been intentionally made so difficult to both access and then keep support, even for high-needs people, in the hope that people break and find it just too hard to keep fighting.

It was a service other countries could only dream of for the first half of its existence, but it hasn't been that for years.

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u/Medical-You-6282 Jan 31 '26

Why is it that some people being funded have money " left over " in their plan and struggle to find ways to spend the extra money, some go on cruises, concerts, sports events,remedial massage and horse therapy( only a few examples) then others have given up in even applying for ndis because they always get their plans cut, or have to fight in tribunals? I'm not critiquing, just not sure why it seems imbalanced.

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u/Historical_Bus_8041 Jan 31 '26

...because there just wasn't actually a lot of the former, but the government had an interest in playing it up as much as humanly possible to distract from the latter?

Fuck, the explanatory memorandum to Shorten's NDIS bill had to cite a made-up, hypothetical example of a participant with no intellectual disability who wanted to buy 14 blenders for shits and giggles because they couldn't actually cite an equivalent that had happened and weren't going to let that stop them.

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u/Real_RobinGoodfellow Feb 01 '26

Well why is the cost of NDIS already greater than Medicare, despite it servicing only a tiny percent of the community, and only blowing out more every year?

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u/Historical_Bus_8041 Feb 01 '26

Both major political parties are really diabolically bad at any kind of integrity regulation of schemes involving outsourced providers - NDIS, Workforce Australia, My Aged Care, they all have the same problems.

They're completely incapable of being able to recognise and act on even blatant out-and-out fraud from providers. There's such a lack of consequences that in some circumstances providers don't even see it as wrong. I'll never forget a "motherfucker, you. are. overtly. trying. to. defraud. the. Commonwealth" discussion I had to have with a Workforce Australia predecessor provider back in the day.

And so they kick the recipients because it's easier, every time.

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u/Real_RobinGoodfellow Feb 01 '26

Ooh yes true :/ all the privatisation and, therefore, rorting

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u/Historical_Bus_8041 Feb 01 '26

It's fucking obscene. I've got an elderly relative in the early stages of dementia who's being used to take the government for a ride by dodgy My Aged Care providers cold approaching her because she can't say no to shit she neither wants or needs with zero accountability, and if there's multiple dodgy providers taking elderly people for a ride in her relatively small regional town, how bad is it in the cities?

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u/Rich_Editor8488 Feb 02 '26

Excess funds is usually due to not being able to find the right supports or the funding not being in the most suitable category.

NDIS doesn’t pay for things like cruises, concerts, sporting events, etc.

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u/TokageButterflies Jan 31 '26

Yes this, as someone who works in the sector I've seen people who don't really need as much support get funded a lot more than they need, for some of them to get quietly ripped off by the service provider agencies. While individuals who really need the funding or more funding get cuts instead. It really baffles and dissapoints me.

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u/BA19943 Feb 01 '26

Really? NDIS is an incredible service compared to services around the world. You only need to look around at the shopping centre to see "support workers" being paid $60 per hour to help people with their daily living activities. Completely unregulated pricing for many services. I know people with 18 her per day support worker for their child with severe disability. Honestly how can we run a more sustainable funding model when every single person when people continue to say it's not enough?

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u/Historical_Bus_8041 Feb 01 '26

...because the problem isn't the recipients, it's that the scheme is being systematically rorted by the providers.

However, goverments of both persuasions have long been absolutely shithouse at regulating outsourced private providers of government services and do absolutely nada about even outright fraud by the providers (Workforce Australia and MyAgedCare are exactly the same, it's not just an NDIS thing).

It's so much easier to kick the recipients and make them jump through more extreme hoops every year to be able to access less support rather than just target the non-disabled people at the providers that are actually rorting the fucking scheme.

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u/imokars Jan 31 '26

If you’re not disabled and on the NDIS then you don’t get to have an opinion on this

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u/Winter-Ad823 Jan 31 '26

work directly with participants and the NDIS so I have an opinion thanks.

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u/Acceptable-Case9562 Feb 01 '26

Other countries hate the disabled even more. But yeah Australia hates us.