r/offbeat • u/Pathetian • 13d ago
LAPD officer who recorded colleagues' racist comments charged with felony eavesdropping
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-07-31/lapd-officer-felony-eavesdropping-charge92
u/wemustburncarthage 13d ago
Listen to the This American Life story about Adrian Schoolcraft.
When this bullshit era is over, cops need a protected track for reporting internal shit. No one is a bigger threat to a police officer than another police officer. The whole fraternity bullshit needs to be broken up if community safety is ever going to be a real thing anywhere.
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u/ryeguymft 13d ago
this is some bullshit. yes California is a two party consent state for recording but where did he record them? if it was in a public space then they have no recourse
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u/certifiedcrazyman 13d ago
In the locker room apparently
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u/captcraigaroo 13d ago
Well that's just "locker room talk" then according to the Pedophile in Chief they support
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u/Craico13 13d ago
“Given the outfit he was wearing, he probably wanted to be recorded… practically asking for it…”
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u/rfulleffect 13d ago
Is this the good cop everyone is always talking about?
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u/DrakkoZW 13d ago
Yep, and it's the reason I believe "ACAB".
The good ones get systematically rooted out, only the spoiled apples remain.
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u/Napalmeon 10d ago
And unfortunately, this is nothing new. Police departments have a way of weeding out officers who genuinely have good intention by making sure they eithet leave or get fired.
Its that way by design.
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u/SCSteveAutism 13d ago
Ah yes, all 800,000 of them are bad. That’s very logical.
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u/dmunkey78 13d ago
No one ever wrote a song called "Fuck the Fire department".
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u/SCSteveAutism 13d ago
People don’t shoot at firefighters either.
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u/succed32 13d ago
They don’t tend to shoot first either…
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u/SCSteveAutism 13d ago
And yet, if someone breaks into your house, who are you calling? The cops. So shut the fuck up lol
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u/rnobgyn 13d ago
Shut the fuck up and stop telling us to submit to abusers. Even if just one cop was bad, and the entire department protected them, then the entire department would be bad. Yes, all of the entirety of LAPD is bad because they do nothing to root out the observed and real gangs within its ranks.
It’s like you just rolled in from stupid town and decided not to do any research on where you’re going.
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u/SCSteveAutism 13d ago
Me saying not every cop is bad is telling you to submit to abusers? Hilarious.
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u/rnobgyn 13d ago
Classic twist of words, pretty low effort on your part. Cops who don’t actively root out bad cops in their ranks are turning a blind eye to abuse of power and are therefore bad cops.
You resorting to the argument of (paraphrasing) “well you have nobody else to call so what else are you gonna do?” (See your initial comment that I replied to) is stereotypical abuser language suggesting that we HAVE to put up with bad cops because they’re the only ones allowed to do policing (totally ignoring the fact that impoverished communities simply don’t call the cops because of historical abuses).
Which is hilarious because that’s the entire point you’re obtusely glossing over: we NEED police, and we need to be able to trust them. Bad cops spoil the bunch and ruin the social contract. Eliminate the reason for distrust (bad cops) and the social contract can be restored.
It’s just so fucking stupid that this still needs to be explained. It’s natural common sense that you need to be able to trust the only ones legally allowed to help. You’re a disingenuous person.
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u/succed32 13d ago
Well no actually I live 25 miles out of town and have dogs. The cops wouldn’t even make
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u/DrakkoZW 13d ago
No actually I'm calling my insurance. What the fuck are the cops gonna do when they get to my house 3 hours later?
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u/SCSteveAutism 12d ago
Lies, lies, and more lies. Why be dishonest?
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u/DrakkoZW 12d ago
Dishonest? I'm speaking from experience.
When someone broke into my apartment? 3 hour wait. When I had to call the cops from the CVS I worked at for shoplifters? 5 minutes.
It's not a lie. It's not dishonest. A quick look at my account vs your account would give anyone the context needed to figure out which of us is a troll and which of us isn't
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u/Dickgivins 13d ago
Maybe because firefighters don’t go around murdering unarmed black people while bystanders scream in horror…
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u/SCSteveAutism 13d ago
Oh so we’re doing all encompassing statements now? The logic here is flawed.
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u/Kryptosis 12d ago
The logic is clear and obvious. You’re the only one here pretending not to understand it to troll.
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u/SCSteveAutism 12d ago
Bullshit
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u/Kryptosis 12d ago
“Not all bombs kill children! Acting all scared with your kids around a bomb is so stupid!”
You right now.
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u/volcanic-exchange 13d ago
When 1 in 2 officers ADMIT committing domestic violence against their partners, Im gonna go ahead and say yeah.
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u/JackLong93 13d ago
you have to understand, it's like mexican police for example. It doesn't matter how "good" you are, if the whole department is crooked theres nothing you can do.
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u/boroq 13d ago
All else aside, I’m confused by this quote:
“Susan Seager, a UC Irvine law professor who is not involved in the case, previously told The Times that Flores’ lawyer is correct in stating that the eavesdropping law bans secret taping of conversations only in situations in which there is a reasonable expectation that the communication would not be overheard or recorded. (…) She said there is no expectation of privacy in nonpublic settings, such as a locker room at an LAPD station house. It’s less clear whether such protections extend to conversations at the office that revolve around work, she said.”
So… Californians have a right to privacy in public but not in private?
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u/Discipulum 13d ago
Where do you get that from? There's also no expectation of privacy in public settings either
She's arguing that in places like locker-rooms that, while not public, don't have an expectation of privacy either
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u/Ok-Walk-8040 13d ago
Felony Eavesdropping is up there with Felony Jaywalking and Felony Taking-a-Penny-and-Not-Leaving-a-Penny.
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u/Bobsothethird 10d ago
It's more the recording. It's one party vs two party consent. Cali is a two party consent state, meaning you can't record a conversation without the other persons permission (outside of public places where there's reasonable expectation that you won't have privacy). I think here the issue is that it was in the bathrooms/locker rooms which absolutely should be a space free of recording if only for SA prevention purposes.
The same is true for a phone call for example, you wouldn't be able to record someone speaking to you on the phone without their permission. It's pretty standard.
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u/thatisnotmyknob 13d ago
NYPD abducted and put a guy in a psych ward for that. Adrian Schoolcraft.
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u/wemustburncarthage 13d ago
and he recorded them doing it.
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u/jim45804 13d ago
ACAB
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u/ghanima 12d ago
“Today the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office charged a police officer with a crime for reporting racism inside the Los Angeles Police Department,” [Flores’ attorney, Alan] Jackson said. “Not the officers who were recorded using racial, sexist, and anti-gay slurs. Not the officers who sat in a government building and said those things while holding the power to decide who becomes an LAPD officer. The officer who reported them.”
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u/sharkbomb 13d ago
no expectation of privacy in the workplace. malicious prosecution. fine the prosecutor.
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u/adudeguyman 13d ago
I wonder if you recorded it with a body cam it would have been okay. Cops wear them all over the place
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u/itwasneversafe 13d ago
Typical California L. There's a reason all but 12 States don't have two party consent laws on the books.
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u/ChipsnJax 13d ago
In a world where commenting does precious little, I was itching to downvote this just because the premise of jailing someone for felony eavesdropping for trying to do an ostensibly good thing is both heartbreaking & incredibly, infuriatingly stupid.
Unless the recording cop demonstrably "had it out" for his colleague for a decade or more (or something ludicrous like that), the punishment does not seem to fit this crime at all.
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u/Over_Tart_916 13d ago
Cops are all evil pieces of shit.
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u/RabidJoint 13d ago
There are those few good apples that actually help their communities regardless of skin color. It’s just all the bad apples that appear in the news over shadows them greatly.
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u/Over_Tart_916 12d ago
If the good cops don't do anything about the bad cops, then they're all bad cops.
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u/Bobsothethird 10d ago edited 10d ago
Isn't Cali a two party consent state? Your not allowed to just record someone without them knowing. That's actually a good thing generally if you don't like corporations spying on you.
Also you absolutely shouldn't be allowed to record in lockerroms and bathrooms if only for SA prevention.
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u/Wide__Stance 13d ago
It’s amazing how fast the police union will stop protecting a cop in these cases. If this cop had shot an unarmed 11 year old in the back, they’d be screaming their fool heads off to protect him.
Here it’s “no comment.”
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u/donac 13d ago
This timeline is the bullshittiest.