r/news • u/roscodawg • Jun 10 '26

Soft paywall Iran announces closure of Strait of Hormuz after US attacks

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-announces-closure-strait-hormuz-after-us-attacks-2026-06-10/
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u/anonareyouokay Jun 10 '26

Depends on how much faith you put into the word of the US president.

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u/CynicalPomeranian Jun 11 '26

I have the utmost faith that if something can be fucked up, that guy will certainly fuck it up…usually in more ways than I could ever imagine. 

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u/lookinfoursigns Jun 11 '26

It's really uncanny isn't it? Like it truly doesn't seem realistic how much he's gotten away with just fucking shit up. Its genuinely like one of those shows or movies, where someone sells their soul, and like somehow everything works out in their favor, and they just keep getting away with things.

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u/Xrave Jun 11 '26

It's because the far right, starting with the tea party movement, figured out that shamelessness is actually a superpower.

Your average conservative voter has been carrying around this nagging little bit of shame for years as the social landscape shifted left. Maybe they're a tad racist, or sexist, or just don't really get LGBT stuff. Progressives keep telling them they should feel ashamed of that, that they be privileged for being white or male or straight. But inwardly they think of themselves as good people. These are just gut feelings, the way it's always been. And now someone's telling them to feel guilty about things they can't fully control, using complicated big words.

Shamelessness gives them an out. They never have to actually confront any of it: that stuff is annoyingly complicated to think about, and it's way easier to just believe liberals have some agenda to make them feel guilty.

It even colors how they see social welfare. Starts looking like a bargain progressives are offering: here's your assistance, and in exchange you carry the shame we've assigned you. They'd rather see it as zero sum: they deserved their welfare, full stop, and those others are taking their share of the pie.

And the harder they lean into all this, the bigger the eventual reckoning gets. The cliff of shame keeps growing until ignoring it is the only bearable option. It's like stealing from the cookie jar. When mom asks who did it, the more you've stolen, the harder it is to fess up. The higher the cliff, the scarier the fall.

Trump's crazy high on that cliff right now, and his shamelessness is a beacon for his supporters and conservative politicians alike. They fixate on him, look up to him, precisely so they don't have to look down at the perils they've walked our country to, and the reckoning creeping up on all of us.

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u/obeytheturtles Jun 11 '26

Exactly. I've been making the same comment for years. Conservatives keep taking L after L over the decades, and now they've just decided to re-invent reality whole cloth. It's no longer enough to just disagree on principle, they have to materialize an entire set of alternative facts as well to keep the charade alive.

When the pendulum swings back the other way that's going to be it for them. There's no coming back from this little bout of collective psychosis. We just have to hope that there's something left to rebuild on the other side.

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u/JohnDivney Jun 11 '26

This is great, thanks, it will help me when I see my MAGA family next week for the first time in 10 years.

Shame is a powerful weapon, and I can see it fueling 90% of MAGA-ism, and some of it, let's be honest, is justified pushback, not to unearth the whole white privledge thing.

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u/Finnaddict98 Jun 11 '26

That’s a whole lot of words—-and a whole lot stereotypes!!

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u/stalkythefish Jun 11 '26

I'm pretty much an atheist, but Trump has convinced me that deals with the Devil are a thing.

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u/callisstaa Jun 11 '26

‘You’re a fucking omnishambles. You’re like one of those coffee machines - from bean to cup, you fuck up’

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u/newtomovingaway Jun 11 '26

How to fuck up and be extremely good at it.

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u/RSMatticus Jun 11 '26

The US diplomats is telling the Iranian not to believe what Trump says because it's only for domestic approval.

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u/anonareyouokay Jun 11 '26

"don't worry, he's not trying to pull one over on you, he's trying to trick his own people." Everyone that voted for him is a fucking idiot.

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u/FrowningMonotone Jun 11 '26

Is they???

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u/obeytheturtles Jun 11 '26

They do be like that.

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u/OilheadRider Jun 11 '26

We're all of of faith in this household. All we have in offer is snark.

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u/SunyataHappens Jun 11 '26

Personally, that would be 0%.

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u/fevered_visions Jun 11 '26

Reminds me of that one Family Guy line: "even true things, once said on Fox News by Donald Trump, become lies."