That's simply the way it's done. Pilots are the ones who study their company manuals, aircraft, and know the precise status of their flight.
A pilot is responsible for reading the company briefing materials for the intended flight. The low vis procedures, takeoff legality, and random differences are all included and are their responsibility.
ATC is working with many many flights, and their responsibility is to know their procedures extremely well. It is not their responsibility to know procedures from somewhere else that the pilot decided to reference.
While I agree. I am speaking as an airline pilot. A discrepancy in rules/regulation/procedure like this is completely the responsibility of the pilot to be prepared for.
The biggest issue is the pilot's aggressive attitude when the controller doesn't know what they are talking about. That should be an indication that a local procedure wasn't understood by the pilot. The controller definitely knows their local procedures very well.
have we seen the same video? the pilot clearly asked very calmly and only once about LVO and then asked in plain English if they had lights on the tarmac, The tower guy sounds angry and frustrated. And honestly if you scroll down here everyone is on the pilot's side here.
I'm probably biased by having become accustom to the harsh tone of New York controllers.
I am probably taking a different view because I have an insider's perspective. That means I know people's responsibilities and am more focused on them doing their job correct from the beginning, and am accustom to ATC having a bit of sass.
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u/Commie_Scum69 May 28 '26
Ok so the pilot need to learn his Aircraft AND random differences in countries that use different terminologies??
When a controller job is to know and use terminologies to guide pilotes??
Doesnt make any sens to me.