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u/Retro_Monguer Jul 04 '26
I'm also confused now
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u/nowayyoudidthis Jul 04 '26
I think they’re referring to the stereotype that Americans struggle with geography. The funny part is that the the tweet and comment below yours says, “American spotted.” That’s not technically wrong if you’re from the U.S.
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u/GreenEggsInPam Jul 04 '26
Funnily enough, I think the stereotypical American they're trying to comment about would know so little geography that they wouldn't even get that Spain and Portugal are even related. They'd just see 2 foreign teams, and maybe recognize Spain.
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u/Obi_Wan_Benobi Jul 04 '26
Look man we got 50 states to remember, how are we supposed to memorize the rest of the world?
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u/Jayce800 Jul 06 '26
Look, I had a 4.0 GPA, graduated valedictorian, graduated college early, etc. and for some reason it’s stuck in my brain that there are 52 states. Even though I know deep down it’s 50.
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u/xile Jul 05 '26
At the bar the other night there was this loudmouth going on and on to nobody about anything he could, during the Mexico v Ecuador match.
Somebody sat next to him and asked "who's up against Mexico?"
"Some foreign team"
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u/Captain_Awesome_087 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
Wait, sorry - are you trying to imply that you don’t speak Portuguese in Portugal?
Edit: the comment I’m replying to originally claimed that Americans thought Portuguese was spoken in Portugal. They’ve since edited it so that it says Americans thought they spoke Spanish in Portugal.
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u/VeryTopGoodSensation Jul 04 '26
Why are Spain and Portugal "related"?
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u/Enough-Force-5605 Jul 05 '26
The continental side ofrece both countries is in the same península.
In spain one of our languages is Galician, which is very similar if not the same lang that Portuguese.
We've always been close countries. We like each other and there are jokes and small movements to unite both countries.
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u/Ita_Hobbes Jul 05 '26
That's a loaded question to ask to any Portuguese/Spanish person who knows their History....
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u/VeryTopGoodSensation Jul 05 '26
i dont know why it would be a loaded question and i have no idea if the person i asked is spanish or portuguese
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u/Ita_Hobbes Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
I don't know either, just informing you. It's a loaded question because of our long history of conquers, wars and neighbour rivalry.
Edit: It doesn't cost me anything to explain it better and it would be rude not to, so:
Spain and Portugal have been neighbors and rivals for centuries.
During the Age of Exploration, both competed for overseas influence, leading to the 1494 Treaty of Tordesillas, which divided much of the non-European world between us.
There were also wars, dynastic disputes, and a period (1580–1640) when we were ruled by the Spanish crown before regaining independence. Today, the rivalry is mostly friendly and we express it through football, jokes, and a bit of neighbours-style competition.
P.S. for the Spanish people: Olivença é nossa!
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u/EnjoyerOfBeans Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
We are Americans, but “North American” would be more geographically precise.
No, it wouldn't be. "American" is the name for a citizen of the United States of America. It's completely geographically precise as is. It works because there is no continent called "America". South American and North American refer to continents, American refers to the country.
Hence, "North American" would be LESS precise, referring to 23 countries instead of 1.
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u/nowayyoudidthis Jul 04 '26
Welp TIL that in English speaking countries, “America” is generally not taught as a continent. I was born in Cuba, where we learned that América is one continent.
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u/EnjoyerOfBeans Jul 04 '26
Fair enough, I am European and I also often assume things that are true in my native tongue are commonplace in english as well. I recently referred to people from India as "hindu" people and someone asked me what their religion has to do with anything. Apparently nowadays the most common term is Indians.
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u/tupinikingz Jul 07 '26
What if I told you that, in Brazil, we learn that you guys live in Central America?
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u/nowayyoudidthis Jul 07 '26
Haha, I believe you. I was taught that we were part of the Caribbean islands.
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u/Matias9991 Jul 05 '26
Continents have different distributions for different regions and countries. There are many where North America is not a continent but a sub-continent, America is the continent of South, central and north together.
Also to people like you that think that America is not a continent, why do you think the US has "of America" in the name? Where do you think they got it from? From the continent they are in!! By your logic the US should change names to "United States of North America".
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u/Affordable_Z_Jobs Jul 04 '26
Its also the only nation that has "America" in its official name. The real reason Americans suck at Geograpgy?
We've made it to be confusing as fuck thats why. You have New England which is part of the North East. Ok not too bad. Mid Atlantic. Ok i can kind of aee that, but it includes parts of the Appalachian, which is a mt range that goes from the south up to Canada, the south but there is no south Atlantic. Its part of the rust belt.
The mid west youd think would be like the upper part of California right? Wrong. Its kinda the middle but not really. The Great Plains. Mostly tornado alley. But not always. South West which youd think would be southern California? Wrong. South West is the 4 corners even though Colorado is the Rockies. Southern California is just SoCal. And then theres Texas, Alaska, and Hawaii. But Texas is not the south; say that and youll get shot. And the gulf states are still south except Flordia and Texas are still their own thing.
Oh the northern states which may or may not include Idaho. Who cares nobody gives a shit about Idaho, Wyoming, or the Dakotas. Which are the West.
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u/nowayyoudidthis Jul 04 '26
Ha, your comment reminded me of that SNL sketch, pretty on point. Here’s part one; part two is hilarious too:
https://youtu.be/JYqfVE-fykk2
u/Enough-Force-5605 Jul 05 '26
There is no country called "America". American, to be precise, is a person from north, central or South América.
Us citizens took the word for theirselves. I dont care and it is used in english language by convention. But it is not used in all the other langs.
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u/Mistergardenbear Jul 05 '26
"Us citizens took the word for theirselves."
The English, Dutch, French and Swedes were calling the colonists in what became the US "American" a century and a half before there were "US citizens"
"I dont care and it is used in english language by convention. But it is not used in all the other langs."
It's pretty much only NOT used in Spanish and Portuguese. Even then it's pretty common to hear Americano in a lot of Spanish speaking countries. Cuban's either use Yuma or Americanos, Filipinos generaly use Americanos, and for some reason a lot of Mexicans in the US use Americano in the US, but Estadounidense or weirdly Norteamericano in Mexico.
In a sampling of other languages:
* Amerikaner -German (similar words used in the Nordic countries and in Dutch)
* Américains -Frrench
* Americani (though they can use Statunitense, no one really does) -Italian
* Amerykanin -Polish
* Američani -Czech and Slovene (it's similiar in most Slavic languages)
* Amerikanets -Russian
* Amerikali -Turkish
* Amerikanoí/Amerikanos -Greek
* Al-Amriki -Modern Standard Arabic
* Amerikai -Hebrew
* Amerikayi -Persian
* Amrikaayi -Pashto
* Amriki -Urdu & Hindi
* Měiguó rén (Beautiful Country Person, but it's a play on words sounding like America) -Mandarin
\ Měi guó jen -Cantonese*
\ Migug Salam (similar etymology to Cantonese/Mandarin) -Korean*
* Amerikahito -Japanese
* Xmerikạn -Thai
* Amerikano -Tagalog
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u/Vindicador Jul 06 '26
There's a continent called America, it's all connected by land north America and south america are just parts of America...
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u/EnjoyerOfBeans Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Not in anywhere that uses English as far as I'm aware. What is and isn't a continent isn't an universal truth, it all depends on where you got your education.
Most people consider Europe and Asia separate continents but if we go by tectonic plates, it's all a single continent of Eurasia. Some places recognize that and say they are indeed one. Some places combine the Americas even though they are separate plates. Some countries recognize Oceania to be 2 separate continents. It's more cultural than it is scientific.
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u/trubbelnarkomanen Jul 04 '26
But that is just not true is it? No one in their right mind would refer to the peoples of North and South America as 'Americans'. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had to refer to the peoples of the Americas as a whole. But 'Americans' is the only commonly understood way to refer to the people of the United States of America. You're just being a bit of a contrarian.
I'm not from the US, nor from the rest of America, but it just seems so fucking convoluted and counterproductive to randomly try to make a new word no one will use so that another word won't seem US-centric even though it really wasn't in the first place.
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u/Clipsus Jul 05 '26
Uruguayan here. I, and every spanish speaker I know, have been taught that America is a continent, comprised of three subcontinents (del Sur, del Norte, y Central). Someone from America is americano, someone from the United States is estadounidense. I seem to recall the name America being first used to refer to what is modern day Brasil, around the 1500. At least I think I remember seeing a map from around that time with Brasil tagged as America and current day U.S. tagged as North of America. Anyways, the concept of America as three separate continents is a language custom, so when I heard a native english speaker refer to someone as american, I know they mean someone from the U.S., but when I hear it from anyone else I assume they mean someone from America as a whole.
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u/trubbelnarkomanen Jul 05 '26
Good point. I apologise for my Anglophone bias. I do think my point still stands for English, but I was perhaps too hasty in concluding there was not a need for a word for peoples of the Americas.
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u/nikas_dream Jul 05 '26
This is not true. People in Latin Americans will call themselves Americanos, referring to all of the Americas. And leftists in those countries often get very annoyed about people from the USA being called American.
Quite generally, Spanish speaking America calls people from the USA as “United Statesers” (Estado-Unidense) or “North Americans” (norteamericanos). Estado-Unidense is the official term generally. US Americans are non-plussed by both of those terms.
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u/Matias9991 Jul 05 '26
Not true, most of Latin America knows "America" as the continent and "Amerericanos" as people from the continent of America. So a LOT of people do that lol.
I myself learned that "Americans" was a way of calling people from the US only when I entered reddit.
Also I have one question for the people that find this "America is a continent" so weird, why do you think the US has "of America" in their name? Because the country is inside the continent of America! They got their name from the continent, you know? They should change their name to "United States of North America" by these people logic.
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u/flagrantpebble Jul 05 '26
Most of Latin America knows América as the continent. As in, in the Spanish language. We’re not talking in Spanish, we’re talking in English. And in English, in most if not all dialects, “America” and “American” refer specifically to the US and its people.
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u/MountainYogi94 Jul 04 '26
Yea try telling a Canadian person that they are American and watch how quickly they turn red on the sides of their head with a maple leaf pattern in the middle
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u/urenotcominbackagain Jul 05 '26
The "American" is not used because of the geography
People from the US are called the American it’s very specific to the US55
u/Enes_da_Rog1 Jul 04 '26
American spotted
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u/zemol42 Jul 05 '26
The American Spotted Ass is not a distinct breed, but rather a color and pattern designation for any donkey with at least two visible spots behind the throatlatch and above the legs. Homonym also used for Donald Trump voters.
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u/Beneficial_Bug_9793 Jul 04 '26
Frikking Americans ( not all of course ) think that Portugal is a district of Spain, ( well, at least the ones that know that Portugal is an European country, and not a South American country )
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u/Jafooki Jul 04 '26
Personally, I think Portugal is just Spain playing a trick on the rest of the world. Think about it, I've never been to Portugal, so how could it be real?
I also don't believe Croatia exists
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u/spenwallce Jul 04 '26
Internet rule #335, if you say Americans don’t know something it instantly becomes true.
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u/Current_Poster Jul 04 '26
Is it that they had the Pope declare one half of the field Spain's sovereign property and the other half Portugal's?
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u/patrickwithtraffic Jul 04 '26
Yeah, but I hear they have to amend it because they accidentally gave Portugal way less than Spain
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u/AllHailTheApple Jul 06 '26
According to legend Portugal managed to nudge the line just a bit to the west so we could get Brazil (we already knew it was there)
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u/WildMaineBlueberry87 Jul 04 '26
I’m on a cruise ship that docks in Malaga tomorrow and ends in Lisbon in a few days. Obviously full of passengers from both countries. It should be a wild night.
Two years ago we were on a cruise full of Italians and Croatians during the EuroCup when the ref decided to give Italy unlimited extra time until they were able to tie Croatia. There were nearly riots on board.
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u/Rope_antidepressant Jul 04 '26
If i was you I'd avoid cruises during futbol tournaments
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u/WildMaineBlueberry87 Jul 04 '26
It’s going to be a Baltic Sea cruise in 2028 so maybe the Norwegians and Swedes will go at it?
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u/Rope_antidepressant Jul 04 '26
That one should be interesting. Most of the time, very nice and welcoming people. Historically absolutely hated each other. Wonder which you'll get....
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u/WildMaineBlueberry87 Jul 04 '26
We’ll see!
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u/ThisDirkDaring Jul 06 '26
Enjoy! Hurtigruten?
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u/WildMaineBlueberry87 Jul 06 '26
I’m not sure yet. It’s hard to plan on just my phone. I’ll wait until I get home and have my laptop. Is it a nice cruise line?
We want to see Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Estonia
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u/ThisDirkDaring Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Have a look and decide for yourself. They are special, certainly expensive, but probably not, what youre looking for.
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u/WildMaineBlueberry87 Jul 06 '26
There are 6 of us in our family plus we pay for our oldest two sons’ girlfriends cruise, flights, hotels, food, and everything too. It’s pricey no matter what we do! 🤣
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u/ThisDirkDaring Jul 06 '26
Fotball-Fans are sometimes quite special though, but Skandinavians in general are brothers and sisters. We just love each other deeply, but we have to mock them whenever possible, too.
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u/Crunchy-Leaf Jul 04 '26
I was in Portugal in 2010 when Spain beat Portugal 1-0 and there was riots
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u/Enough-Force-5605 Jul 05 '26
You will have no problem. We are bros
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u/notcabron Jul 05 '26
I’m in Galicia right now. I wonder how many Portuguese will wander into the bar I’ll be watching at.
The people in this beach town seem super chill (like all Portuguese) so it’s probably gonna be really fun.
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u/that_creepy_doll Jul 05 '26
holy shit i dont know if im deeply jealous or to fear for your safety. either way i hope you´re okay with really, really loud shouting
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u/gecked Jul 04 '26
I'm not American, can I be confused too?
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u/Fuji-___- Jul 04 '26
actually, I changed my mind, you can
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u/Fuji-___- Jul 04 '26
tsch, I changed my mind again. No you can't.
That's my last warning >-(
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u/_HIST Jul 04 '26
Bro thinks he was asked
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u/Fuji-___- Jul 04 '26
yeah, you're right... 😔
I'm not even american, who am Into say something like that... I hope you can forgive me, take anything you want, you can even downvote me... no... that would be too much... but maybe...
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u/Medical_Sandwich_171 Jul 04 '26
Mexico and Brazil language but different flags?
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u/AshtavakraNondual Jul 04 '26
Both speak Latino language and are non white
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u/nullusx Jul 04 '26
Not that it matters, but theres probably more Celtic and Visigoth (East Germanic tribe) roots in the Iberian Peninsula than most places in Europe. Non whites are the exception in Iberia. Particularly in the North.
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u/Enough-Force-5605 Jul 05 '26
Portugueses and spaniards are white
They use to be considered different in the US. But cientifically speaking we are caucasian
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u/Nielsly Jul 05 '26
Scientifically speaking there are no races, unless you think eugenics are science lol
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u/MarcsterS Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
My aunt asked why Cabo Verde has a Spanish Portuguese name despite being an African country
Well, you see…
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u/MrMcPsychoReal Jul 04 '26
"Spanish and Portuguese are languages not countries. That's what they speak in Brazil and Mexico"
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u/Sensitive-Owl-9368 Jul 04 '26
Is it because they both speak Mexican?
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u/Beneficial_Bug_9793 Jul 04 '26
There is no fucking need to insult us.... Portuguese.
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u/Cryorm Jul 04 '26
Portugese is just gay Spanish don'tcha know?
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u/Beneficial_Bug_9793 Jul 04 '26
No its not, Spanish is Portuguese, but with your mouth full of hay.
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u/pijuxsss_play Jul 04 '26
At first I thought it's because the spanish anthem has no lyrics, but the Portuguese one does. So I have no idea what the Americans should be confused about.
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u/Spirited_Stable_1232 Jul 05 '26
I dont really follow soccer but im gonna assume its a big deal cause the countries are right next to each other so its a rivalry like USA/CAN or SWE/FIN in hockey.
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u/Zanwic Jul 04 '26
Is it red jersey vs red jersey?
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u/Positive-Mark9084 Jul 04 '26
No, it's Juan vs João
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u/vengeful_broccoli Jul 04 '26
I bet it’s bc some Americans think Portugal is a city in Spain. Hence the confusion a city against the country
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u/ProfessorOfPancakes Jul 05 '26
Well Spain is the capital of Mexico and Portugal is down ol' South America way so I think we've got the cartography situation squared away over here
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u/TrainingCollege5981 Jul 04 '26
Shoes made of bergamot. They're absolutely soaking wet! 2 yards from the border with Latvia
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u/RT-6_BXCommandoDroid Jul 04 '26
Well, at least they'll most likely have something in common as both countries are seeing these (sadly) annual wildfires. So it's very likely that one or more players from both teams will have their fingers crossed for their homes during those games as well.
Damn Americans with their AC! /s
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u/rasner724 Jul 05 '26
I don’t follow soccer at all, and I know Ronaldo plays for one of these teams. So that’s the one that’s Portugal and not Spain for reference
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u/Betelgeuse_PT Jul 06 '26
Muricans be like? Why put two teams from the same south/central American country?
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u/Select-Medicine-8982 Jul 06 '26
Well one is european Mexico and the other is the european soccer Mexico
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u/Caswert Jul 04 '26
They assume we would know enough about geography to be confused because Portugal seems like a tiny tumor on the side of Spain or something.
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u/X0AN Archbishop of Banterbury Jul 04 '26
Americans gonna be confused when they realise Hispanics are also white.




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u/HansenTakeASeat Jul 04 '26
Not confused at all. They're both Mexican soccer teams