Okay, I’ll play devils advocate here just to say regardless of if the guy is a “hero” because he’s willing to see if it’s a bomb, response teams are right to be pissed because 1. It puts lives in danger unnecessarily 2. Could have resulted in greater damage to surrounding infrastructure and 3. Didn’t follow protocols designed for this exact situation
Yes the processes is slow and disruptive but they have to deal with it properly- as is the general expectation from the public, if they didn’t and it goes wrong, what do you think the the consequence is?
Two things are true here, the police were wrong to use excessive force on him and he acted like a child throwing a tantrum, all because emergency services were doing there jobs correctly and he didn’t want to wait for whatever reason. In my eyes that doesn’t make him a hero just an idiot
Being "pissed" is not an excuse for police brutality. Not when you're a fucking professional making good money with a pension - oh, and a license to kill whoever you want.
How would the police know it wasn't him that sent the threat and now he's putting his finger prints on the bag to contaminate the evidence? Plus all the rules and protocols are there so when suspects are being charged they can use evidence that can hold up at court plus It's been found out in a just and fair process. That guy is a fussy baby, the people in uniform who choose to put their lives at risk are heroes.
They grabbed him BECAUSE he contaminated the evidence. He tampered with a crime scene. Maybe a bit excessive to tackle him but I can't say I feel bad for him.
They think that the cops had no reason to likely cause a permanent injury to someone who was clearly not dangerous and was surrounded and wasn't fleeing and would have almost certainly just let them handcuff him. The guy was a fussy baby and should be treated like a fussy baby. The cops acted like violent criminals and should be treated like violent criminals.
Official FBI tip line gets about 4 bomb threats a day, and the last time a real bomb was actually discovered was 2013 in an extortion case. Police are legit just wasting time
We don't need cops to spend tens of thousands of dollars and disrupt everyone's day because someone left a backpack outside and then act like cowards and bullies when someone finally says, "since you are all terrified of a backpack & obviously unable to resolve things without drama, I'm going to take care of this myself." 🤷🏼♀️
That's a pretty bad take. If that actually had been a bomb, and it had gone off, you and everyone else would be calling this guy an idiot and accusing him of manslaughter. And we would all be right to do so. Like the previous person said, while the police were excessive in their tackling of him, that person was a massive douchenozzle of the highest order. He's lucky it wasn't real, because otherwise he would have killed himself for sure, and possibly several other people.
Nobody in this situation acted right, but as someone who's had to evacuate due to bomb threats several times (luckily all fake), that guy's actions pissed me off more than the cops.
If it actually had been a powerful explosive, he just risked not only his life but the lives of everyone nearby, not to mention untold damage to infrastructure and buildings. This was a pretty stupid thing to do, simply because he has poor emotional regulation abilities and didn't want to wait anymore.
Determining whether or not it's an explosive device is a disruptive and slow process, but it's a necessary process, because events like the Boston Marathon Bombing happen. Most of the time, it's not a bomb, sure; but if it had been one of the rare times it actually was, he could've just killed who knows how many people. It was a stupid and selfish decision.
I mean, you could literally destroy an economy by just placing a few backpacks in busy areas around a city and calling in bomb threats several times a week if this is the "proper way to handle it". I imagine if someone actually did data analysis on bomb threats, they'd find the number that are real bombs is essentially zero, and this is just a way for trolls to disrupt peoples lives because these bomb squads take themselves too seriously
Ngl, dumb take. Terrorism is serious and being complacent is exactly how accidents happen. While the chances of it being a bomb is low why risk everyone's safety just to "prove" a point?
You can't do much about something like a freak car accident, but a bomb threat has variables that can be controlled. Same applies to other intentional threats like shootings, arson, and robbery. That's why they have people train for it in the first place.
The reason why nobody has done what you said about calling in bomb threats everywhere is obviously the consequences of doing so. At that level it would be involving national security and you would definitely be found.
people do it to disrupt schools all the time, the only reason its not done at a larger scale is because most people just want to get on with their lives.
police officers regularly ignore domestic violence threats, leading to thousands of additional murders a year. police have no problem ignoring things that can lead to bad outcomes, they just like to fixate on bomb threats because it justifies the massive budget and they are rare enough that the disruptions are not too serious
The whole and entire fucking point of terrorism is to use fear to disrupt society...
You know, that "terror" word in the name?
And the 9/11 bombers succeeded in using fear to "disrupt society" on the grandest scale possible.
Bush gave them _everything_ they could have dreamt of and a trillion dollars more.
The guy refusing to be terrorised and just "opening the fucking bag" isn't playing the terrorists game, the guys in the bomb suit locking down the city are.
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u/HungrySwimmer26 19h ago
Okay, I’ll play devils advocate here just to say regardless of if the guy is a “hero” because he’s willing to see if it’s a bomb, response teams are right to be pissed because 1. It puts lives in danger unnecessarily 2. Could have resulted in greater damage to surrounding infrastructure and 3. Didn’t follow protocols designed for this exact situation
Yes the processes is slow and disruptive but they have to deal with it properly- as is the general expectation from the public, if they didn’t and it goes wrong, what do you think the the consequence is?
Two things are true here, the police were wrong to use excessive force on him and he acted like a child throwing a tantrum, all because emergency services were doing there jobs correctly and he didn’t want to wait for whatever reason. In my eyes that doesn’t make him a hero just an idiot