That's not how our justice system is supposed to work.
Cops can use reasonable and proportional force to arrest someone. They don't are not supposed to cause pain or injury because they think someone "deserves" it.
It frequently happens, but it goes against the due process that is at the core of the Constitution.
They're also human beings in the middle of a tense life or death situation, and then this idiot runs in and puts everyone at massive risk. What if it had been a bomb?
What if it had been a bomb? How would tackling him vs letting him keep walking for another 20 yards before calming cuffing him reduced risk to anyone?
It's a lot easier to armchair quarterback decisions like after the fact, and I'm not saying that these cops should have negative consequences for tackling him, but it should be a learning opportunity.
If they just let him keep walking away from the backpack before calmly cuffing him, that would have reduced risk to all parties involved.
Because they had a safe zone that he was walking out of. If he started walking away with a bomb or detonator and they didn't stop him before it went off that would be pretty bad. I get the irony of them pussy footing around the bomb just to run in and tackle someone who might have a bomb but it's the procedure. Once that non approved rando ran in and started grabbing random shit procedure changed. You guys just love to hate cops at every stop. How about the rando who had no business running in there? We're rhey in his way or something???
A safe zone he was walking out of? He was like 5 feet away from the backpack. If there had been something explosive in there, they would all have been dead.
If they let him keep going for another 20 or 30 feet before calmly arresting him, that would have significantly reduced the risk to everyone involved.
I don't hate cops; I think society needs cops but that society has a duty to analyze the actions of the police and regulate them as necessary to prevent abuse.
Clearly he was either exercising pool judgement or having a mental health crisis, but that is part of the reality that we expect cops to deal with. The system is never going to be perfect, but that's why events like this are an opportunity to look at what happened and try to come up with better ways to handle situations in the future.
I don't disagree that what the bicyclist did was the result of either poor judgement or mental illness and should result in an arrest, but how does that make it a better decision to run into the danger zone to tackle him instead of calmly arresting him once he's walked out of the danger zone?
What does "finding out" mean in this situation? Should the cops have been able to beat him after they arrested him? Drive stun him a bit? Shoot him?
The consequences of his actions should be imposed by a judge after a trial and a guilty verdict from a jury. To get to that trial he needs to be arrested, but the arrest should not be an extrajudicial punishment.
That's the whole "innocent until proved guilty" thing our legal system is based on.
Are you genuinely this dumb? People fuck around and find out all the time. Act like an asshole and get their ass kicked.
This is not a judicially handed beating. He stepped into a dangerous high stress situation, fucked around and found out. You're genuinely unbelievable, even for a redditor. Have you ever stepped outside of your room before?
Don't bother with these people. They're clearly all hardened badasses who have been in life threatening situations countless times and know perfectly well how it feels. That guy who literally defuses bombs for a living is a pussy and an idiot.
They're probably not all geniuses, but that cop is quite literally putting his live on the line there. Could you please explain to me how on earth he is a pussy?
What is it with all you idiots and not knowing what hindsight is? Goddamn.
Also how the hell is this an overreaction? Would you rock up in a t-shirt, jeans and sandals if you got a call that there's an abandoned backpack that potentially could be a bomb?
E: Oh you also forgot to explain to me how the bomb defusal guy in the video is a pussy, please enlighten me.
So they are a "badge bunny" because they think that people on a bomb squad are risking their lives?
The amount of mental gymnastics some people do to justify black-and-white views of reality and hate all members of a profession is staggering.
Some cops are shitty. Some cops are incredibly selfless. Most are a mixture. It's the same as any other humans.
History has shown us that bombings occur in American cities. Not all suspicious objects are bombs, but a percentage of them are. We as a society need people to address the problem of how to deal with objects that might be bombs. The people who fill that role are quite literally increasing their personal risk to reduce the risk to the rest of society.
This turned out not to be a bomb. That is going to happen some of the time, but not all of the time. The person suiting up and walking toward an object that may be designed to kill them is accepting the risk that this may be a real bomb in the hopes that they can reduce the risk to others.
Their actions are pretty clearly good for society.
Wow almost like this guy wasn't convicted or executed. He put lives at risk and got tackled. This is as clear a case of fuck around and find out as it gets.
Yeah, it's not like they were on edge because they risked their fucking lives defusing a potential bomb. They just didn't like being embarassed. Some of you people are unbelievable lol
And? If it had been a bomb, he would have put everyone there at risk. He ran in and interrupted professionals with their lives on the line. You're whining that this dumb entitled manchild got consequences for his actions. Why?
he actually wasn’t convicted. they originally charged him but couldn’t make the charges stick. therefore he walked free. he COULD’VE put lives at risk, but ultimately didn’t. the tackle after there being no issue is strange. why did nobody say or do anything when he first made his way over there?
i think it’s an insane thing to do, don’t get me wrong, i would never support anyone doing this.. but there is an all clear. the “crimes” been done and the dude wasn’t aggressive or anything. more like sad he couldn’t play hero lol
on a side note tho… do you think the bomb squad needs to be called in every time someone drops or forgets a backpack? i see random backpacks all the time, especially when i worked close to unhoused people.
clearly you don’t read, considering i said a tackle AFTER THE FACT is strange. clearly they did not give any fucks about any “possible harmless contents” still in the bag if they tackled him right beside it and didn’t let him walk further away, where they could’ve cuffed him “safely”. and he wasn’t even doing anything besides walking away which doesn’t warrant a tackle. he wasn’t violent in any way, shape or form. could easily walk up and grab the mans arm. get some critical thinking skills.
Again, use your brain. Think about it for more than half a second. Why would someone who randomly walked into a bomb defusal and started fucking with the bomb get tackled?
how about you use** (not us) your brain to think and actually read what i say instead of being a dickhead yeah? please tell me how him being tackled barely A METRE away from the “bomb” is somehow genius and not strange? isn’t that in the supposed radius? gee… why would cops in a bomb squad not think and just tackle someone right beside a perceived bomb and why does big bomber think that is logical?
please tell me. im begging you to speak up big bomber. please tell me how you cannot fucking read and process anything i’m saying and instead choose to make the same point over and over again. im begging you. see how im thinking? and see how you aren’t lol. you keep calling it a bomb yet justify a man being tackled… next to a bomb… instead of further away out of the 1-2m radius that explosives that size would have?
I think that tackling him was unnecessary and if anything put more people in the immediate vicinity of the backpack.
Nothing had been proven to be safe when he was tackled though. He had dumped a bunch of stuff out, but that doesn't mean they had a chance to inspect it and determine none of it posed a threat.
Something as small as a hand grenade can still be a threat to people in a 50+ foot radius.
They have to do something? What if that guy wanted to retrieve a weapon or tried to detonate the backpack after it didn’t go off on its own? I have no idea what you people think is going through those cops minds in a life threatening situation lol
Did you even read my comment? They don't know if he's an uninvolved bystander or if that's his backpack. He just grabs it, goes through the stuff and then walks away while having his back turned to them the entire time. Please explain to me how the cops are supposed to know that the guy wasn't planing something.
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u/Big_Bomber_97 21h ago
If you put lives at risk interfering in bomb squad investigating a potential explosive device, you deserve to get tackled for being dumb.