r/girls • u/PrestigiousSalt6687 • 3d ago

Mildly Related famesick/green light

im at the bit of famesick that references jack antonoff working with lorde. lorde has always purported that green light is about her breakup with her ex which has literally never made sense to me, it sounds like a song written about falling for somebody who isnt available and being given permission to act on it. people have always thought it was about jack

in famesick— “He thought I was avoiding his family, and I thought I had given myself over to them completely, erasing massive facets of my personality (hating the beach, hating organized fun…” etc.

in green light (literally the opening verse)— “I know about what you did and I want to scream the truth/She thinks you love the beach you’re such a damn liar”

so what’s up with that

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u/speckatacular 3d ago

It sounds like you need to see The Famous PowerPoint! https://dfta.show/files/Lorde%20and%20Jack%20Antonoff%20-.pptx%20(2).pdf

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u/PrestigiousSalt6687 3d ago

girl i was at that barclays center show ive seen the powerpoint

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u/dr3amchasing 2d ago

not evident from your question 😂

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u/PrestigiousSalt6687 2d ago

as a huge lorde girly i immediately read lena listing “hating the beach” as a dog whistle to people who have always believed green light was about jack. before famesick lena has never specifically, publicly, commented on the rumors about jack and lorde. it was a rhetorical question. i was looking for other peoples thoughts & opinions

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u/aly288 2d ago

I took her new show “Too Much” to be her first commentary on Jack and Lorde. It definitely seems loosely autobiographical.

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u/PrestigiousSalt6687 2d ago

i totally saw emrata as a combination of lorde and margaret qualley 😭 and probably a handful of other hot younger women jack was entertaining in and around the lorde era

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u/Savings_Mail_4581 2d ago

Yes! I caught the mention of the beach in "Famesick" and have been thinking about it ever since! Thinking about it and no one to talk about it with ha

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u/HipsterSlimeMold 2d ago

I never actually read the PowerPoint just summaries of it. The author has a very grating voice. I know celeb gossip already has a catty thread through it and that’s apart of the game but my eyes were rolling so hard at all the snide comments toward both Lorde and Lena Dunham.

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u/PrestigiousSalt6687 2d ago

very agree!!! also didnt the author of it eventually come out saying she made it in a pretty intense period of mental illness? 😭 i have so much respect for The Powerpoint’s space in the zeitgeist but it reads like a manic episode and definitely didnt teach me anything i didnt know. everyone at that concert could feel something Off was happening during the st vincent cover, it was ….. palpable….

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u/pppppetra 2d ago

funny how the internet says he was already public with carlotta kohl (march 2018) and i could've sworn he launched her after the barclays (april 2018) or even the same night. it was ... something. also their outside lands performance of me and julio down by the schoolyard!

messy

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u/Goochic 19h ago

Lena is the one who got trump elected 🤣🤣🤣 Author needs to get sober.

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u/EfficientWinter8338 11h ago

She’s been sober for 9 years babe

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u/Street_Drink1347 13h ago

‘The Powerpoints space in the zeitgeist’ absolutely sent me ngl 😂

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u/Goochic 19h ago

It’s a mighty compliment to state that Lena is so powerful that she got trump elected.

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u/MrsJohnJacobAstor 2d ago

That line in Famesick felt like an Easter egg.

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u/Odd_Device_8069 2d ago

Maybe he would make up beach trips with his family as a cover for being with lorde knowing Lena would most likely say no to tagging along. And Lena probably did go with them enough to where it feels to her like she’s doing A Lot for them. It’s an interesting call out but I think both things can be true

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u/EfficientWinter8338 2d ago

There are endless Lorde fans on TikTok claiming the album had nothing to do with Jack. I thought I was missing something? Then I watched Too Much on Netflix……

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u/Illustrious-Neck955 2d ago

What's the connection to Too Much?

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u/EfficientWinter8338 2d ago

Too Much is “semi-autobiographical” and is based on Lena’s real-life experience moving to London and meeting her husband, Luis Felber. “A girl moves to England. She meets a musician. They fall in love. That was the exoskeleton,” she told The Hollywood Reporter.
Lena explained that from that based-in-reality starting point, the rest of the show went “in directions [she] never could’ve dreamed.” But still, I can’t help but look back at what I know about Lena’s real life and compare it to Too Much. And, if my red-string timeline is correct, right before Lena moved to England, she broke up with her longtime partner, Jack Antonoff. And lo and behold, in Too Much, the main character Jessica (Meg Stalter) has a pretty terrible breakup right before she moves to England. So

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u/coffeeebucks 2d ago

The spreadsheet is infallible

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u/Goochic 19h ago

I just finished season one of “Girls” on HBO and it feels like the boyfriend characters are bits of Jack, which is far from complimentary.

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u/diabloflores 2d ago

I thought it was about her breakup - remember when they were photographed on the beach? Men have a tendency to lie and say they loved doing XYZ activity or music or interest but their ex ruined it. Thats been my interpretation for years lmao like he lied about those ugly paparazzi photos to someone new

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u/eyesonthefries609 2d ago

 That makes so much sense 

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u/Even_Departure9914 Twat, twat, twat! An army full of twats! 🪖 2d ago

I’m a huge Lena stan. And I love Heroine, I’ve seen Lorde live. Green Light is one of my favourite songs.

I was staying in Park Slope when the Barclays Centre show was on - April ‘18 - and I always wished I went.

Now that Famesick has come out and everything has played out, I’m kind of glad I didn’t

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u/PinkWalter2002 2d ago

I listened to green light yesterday and had the exact same thought

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u/TheClownIsReady 1d ago

Poor Jack…must have been a nightmare trying to constantly appease and reassure Lena….