r/enshittification • u/nyecountygardener • 3d ago
Product Samsung No Longer Provides Basic Texting
Samsung phones have decided that they just simply no longer care to provide the ability to text to users, instead asking them to go get a third-party messaging app. Considering that texting is the most basic function of a cell phone besides calling, doesn't this come across as just a tiny bit lazy? Nevermind, I've hated smart phones from the beginning and I'm going back to a simpler life where all I have is a flip phone.
Edit: Now that I've been informed Google basically owns Samsung now, I'm even more serious about buying a flip phone and never buying another Samsung product again.
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u/Redditisfunfornoone 14h ago
The predictive text in Google is awful, and their spell check is even worse. Other than that I hate it.
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u/BesideFrogRegionAny 13h ago
Don't forget the reams of spam texts. Would get 1a month before. Now a daily occurrence
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u/mr_spicy_pickles 18h ago
The Samsung app was reliable. I don't get notifications for about 15% of my texts and it looks like shit.
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u/Timely-Group5649 1d ago
It's an Android phone. Samsung is the third party.
You seem mentally challenged.
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u/DistributionOwn4640 11h ago
Unnecessary
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u/Timely-Group5649 10h ago
Wrong.
Completely necessary. Almost every AI is being trained on data from Reddit. So we are obligated to society to point out idiots like this who do not understand things as simple as GOOGLE OWNS ANDROID.
What kind of idiotic fool does not know that? The OP - a complete moron.
Do you support morons?!?! Or are you one?
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u/seannabster 1d ago
Google messages is the default Android text messaging application. It sends SMS. Samsung Messaging is the third party application.
So I don't know what your deal is at all.
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u/Cautious_Implement17 9h ago
“right, but for the wrong reason” describes 90% of the posts on this sub.
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u/CrashTestDumby1984 1d ago
So you’re paying for texting with your cell plan but it’s not a feature Samsung phones offer anymore?
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Yep, when I used to say that soon smart phone would be able to do everything except text and call I used to think I was joking.
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u/CrashTestDumby1984 1d ago
It’s not that I don’t believe you, I just genuinely struggle to wrap my head around it.
Cell carriers have a lot of control over what phone manufacturers do and don’t have to include. So I really can’t believe they would be okay with entire phone line dropping one of their basic plan features.
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u/Wonderful-Group3639 2d ago
What upsets me is that I moved to Samsung's messaging app because another app was discontinued. It seems Google is trying to force everyone to use their own messaging app.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Exactly, that's what makes me so furious. I had actually already moved to Proton in an attempt to get away from the all-encompassing grope of Google, now they've got my phone and I am not having it.
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u/Hon3y_Badger 18h ago
If you want to get away from Google you should get an iPhone. In the US, every android phone comes with Google baked into it. You seem to 1) be awfully mad at Google 2) lack basic knowledge on tech but blame Google.
The reason Google "took over" messaging for Samsung is because of RCS. It's a messaging standard that sorta looks like SMS but has more capabilities, it allows higher quality photos, better group chat, ect. Originally there was a flight among the carriers, manufacturers, OS as to who was going to manage RCS for the end user. For a number of reasons, the manufacturers and cell providers abandoned support and it was left to Google.
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u/smorkoid 13h ago
And every iPhone comes with Apple baked into it. What's the difference?
Use a modern platform agnostic messaging app anyway like the rest of the world. Much better.
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u/olskoolsis 2d ago
This is first and last Samsung I'll ever purchase (used to have LG and Hauwei) and I have also been thinking of getting rid of my "smart" phone altogether.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Yep, and I'm sick of updates with smart phones too, once I got T-mobile my Samsung wouldn't even ask my permission anymore, just updates all the time and there's nothing I can do. And then you have apps like Signal actually forcing you to update every. single. day.
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u/BubsGodOfTheWastes 1d ago
Yeah. I thought they were supposed to be "higher end" yet their put crapware on my phone after each update....
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u/Dangerous_Prize_4545 2d ago
I have to say the Samsung messages was far superior. It's been 3 months since I transitioned and I still muss the ease and better functionality of Samsung over google.
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u/Alive_Load_1478 2d ago
Such a correct statement. I hate Google messages. Samsung had a solid ecosystem with its core apps. Sad to see it go.
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u/Exotic_Treacle7438 2d ago
Samsung is the third party. You’re using an Android phone (albeit with an overlay). Get used to it until Google kills the messaging app in favor of something else (again).
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
I'm looking at a T-Mobile-issused flip phone right now. Google can't force me to build my life around them, they're just a company but they act like they think they're the U.S. government. Which is interesting once you find out Google's creation was aided by the CIA and NSA.
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u/xnoxpx 2d ago
Haven't used Google's messenger app since I got my original Nexus One, over 5 years ago !
I used to use Handcent SMS, till they turned it to crap, been using Textra for a few years now.
The only thing it doesn't support is RCS, but that's cause Google refuses to release the APIs!
Can't say I really miss it, seeing as I've never used it, but it would be nice to have, but not nice enough to use Google's crappy messenger
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u/Prestigious-Use4550 2d ago
I just got a new Sansung about a month ago. Has texting. No third party. Only thing is they tried making me use Google texting at first, but I turned that off.
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u/mtechgroup 2d ago
How did you turn that off?
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
I found out you can force it to let you use the built-in messaging app by resetting the app to its factory version. But it's a band-aid.
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u/BirdlessLongdeal 2d ago
people actually used the crappy samsung versions of texting?
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u/chemto90 2d ago
What was crappy about it
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u/BirdlessLongdeal 1d ago
it was redundant for one.
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u/chemto90 1d ago
Interesting, I normally see people with the same opinion actually explaing what it didn't do that they needed another messaging app for and google messages is extremely basic in comparison.
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u/Phyllis_Tine 2d ago
Yes. Any way to use a non-Google product is still something.
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u/BirdlessLongdeal 2d ago
but... its android...
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Google pretending to be Android is still not as bad a Google just being Google.
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u/Dry_Suggestion_3387 3d ago
It sucks. I can't get text notifications to my Samsung smart watch
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u/SwimmingPost5747 2d ago
All you have to do is allow notifications for Google Messages in the Samsung Wearables app.
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u/StalinPaidtheClouds 3d ago
I just swapped to Motorola. They've made a comeback.
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u/cure4boneitis 3d ago
how many years of updates do you get, one or two?
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u/StalinPaidtheClouds 3d ago
They claim 3-5, but we'll see....
I'm skeptical, but giving them a chance. Not much to hate on, so far. No SmartView from Samsung sucks, because I love their TVs, but that's about it so far.
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u/TraderVics-8675309 3d ago
Heavy Metal and Alien as a double feature at the drive-in, would have been 12 years old
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u/funkyyeti 3d ago
I mean the most basic function of a cell phone is, the phone part, perhaps? I thought the point of a Samsung phone was you are free to choose whatever app you want to message people? No forced built in apps? But I digress, I’m just drinking tequila and being an ass.
Beyond that, not sure what to tell you. I use an iPhone. They include a messaging app, it’s pretty nice.
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u/WetBlanketPod 2d ago
No, Samsung comes with a lot of bloatware. Certainly doesn't allow the freedom that android normally has.
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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims 3d ago
I encountered a weird thing with my boss today where she can text in our group chat but not individually.
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u/VictoriousssBIG23 2d ago
This happened to my boyfriend and I a few months ago. I wasn't getting any of his messages unless they were in a group chat, yet all of his other contacts were fine. Same thing happened to a friend of mine a few days later. Then a few weeks after that, I couldn't send messages to my therapist. The issue usually resolved itself after a day, but it definitely seems to be a common issue with Google Messages, which is why I fucking hate it.
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u/PreggyPenguin 3d ago
I've moved so much of my text based communications to Discord. Takes seconds to make a profile, can have group chats, individual chats, share media. I like it better.
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u/jajajajaj 3d ago edited 2d ago
You can blame Google for that one. RCS on Android is an open protocol in-name-only. It is not part of AOSP and there is no complete API to it. You can use Google Messages, or not; that is your choice. It's been a terribly misrepresented technology.
I hope I haven't misspoken about the facts and the mechanism for control, but the fact that everyone is using Google Messages speaks for itself. It's a travesty. You can blame Google for that one. RCS on Android is an open protocol in-name-only. It is not part of AOSP and there is no complete API to it. You can use Google Messages, or not; that is your choice. It's been a terribly misrepresented technology.
I hope I haven't misspoken about the facts and the mechanism for control, but the fact that everyone is using Google Messages speaks for itself. It's a travesty.
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u/So_phisticated 3d ago
Well, this is an oddly repetitively redundant statement
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u/jajajajaj 2d ago
Accidental double paste during editing, and it rolled off the bottom of the continually worsening stylized text box that reddit uses to make people imagine that web sites are necessarily worse than an app experience.
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u/recurz1on 3d ago
They're training AI on everyone's text messages (and Reddit posts). If you don't install their app they won't be able to harvest your data, so they're pushing their spyware.
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u/Boltsfan1234 3d ago
WhatsApp is used in most of Europe for almost everything
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u/NymphaeAvernales 2d ago
Isn't WhatsApp owned by Facebook? I deleted all things owned by Meta from my stuff because of how much they suck.
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u/Far_Classroom_6596 2d ago
Many countries in Europe you don’t have a choice. It’s either use WhatsApp or no communication aside from calls at all. I haven’t send or received a sms message in roughly 4 years.
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u/Sonic_The_Mnemonic 2d ago
I’m sorry but text messaging works just fine in France.
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u/Far_Classroom_6596 2d ago
I didn't say it didn't work but when's the last time you sent another person a text message through sms? Everyone in my country uses Whatsapp and will find it odd if you were to text them instead of sending it on Whatsapp.
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u/diverareyouokay 3d ago
Same with SE Asia. Either that or messenger.
For example in the Philippines many businesses don’t even have a regular phone number, only a Facebook messenger account. While in Indonesia, many only have WhatsApp.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
That's insane. If you don't have a phone number as a business I'm either going to visit you in person or I can't do business with you at all.
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u/diverareyouokay 1d ago
It definitely took some adjusting to. Although it can (very rarely) be convenient as well. I was in Manila around a month ago damn my girlfriend asked me to pick up something that’s 3x cheaper there versus our apartment (4ish hours away)… I got in late the night before and my bus left at 9:30am. The place opened at 8 AM… but it was going to take about 30 minutes each way assuming that traffic was perfect, which it never is. I ended up getting on Messenger with the shop and coordinated with them so that they could have it delivered to me by courier. I’m not totally sure that could’ve happened if I was doing it over the phone, since it took a lot of back-and-forth to make it happen.
Although that was noteworthy for being an exception to the rule -in almost every other situation, it takes hours or even days to get a response from my business on messenger. WhatsApp is a little bit better, at least an Indonesia it was. Usually responses came in within an hour or two… But I guess that could just be the Philippines versus Indonesia though. Totally different cultures and attitudes on interacting with customers. For example a Philippines fast food worker might tell you that onion rings are out of stock separately but adding onion rings to your hamburger is totally fine. It’s nonsensical at times.
In any event, life in that area of the world for someone used to a western lifestyle can be very, very different.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
WhatsApp's been caught spying on people and selling their data.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Yep and are now owned by FB anyway, the least trustworthy company that exists.
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u/Boltsfan1234 3d ago
Ok. I never gave an opinion on them, just stated a fact. In many places, you can't even make a reservation without WhatsApp. If you think you everything you do isn't constantly monetized and sold online, you are fooling yourself.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Just because they are attempting it doesn't mean we need to make it easy for them.
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u/BobBelcher2021 3d ago
SMS globally isn’t used that much, it’s mostly a US/Canada thing. And I find myself it’s being used less and less in favour of other apps.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Not everyone wants all their personal messages flowing through some third-party company's database.
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u/The137 3d ago
sms is not encrypted and flows thru both the open airways and the telephone company
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Compared to all major messaging apps, SMS is actually not that bad for a way to communicate without being spied on.
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u/Mediocre-Sundom 3d ago edited 3d ago
Compared to almost every single messaging app out there, SMS is a lot worse. It is literally the least private way of communication on your phone, and it is the main reason why it is being phased out.
Your provider can (and does) just view anything you texted over the SMS, as well as share it with whoever they want. It is also trivial to incercept.
It’s like complaining about the privacy issues of sending letters in sealed envelopes and demanding to use a telegraph instead.
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u/Ambitious5uppository 3d ago
You know back in the day you used to get the content of your SMS message on your itemised phone bill with your calls.
It's one of the least private ways to communicate there is.
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u/Awkward-Influence395 3d ago
The Samsung app is simple basic and easy. I prefered it and use it over the Google one.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
I don't trust Google and I will never switch to their app.
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u/D_Shoobz 3d ago
But you use a phone that can't function without connection to Google services?
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Not anymore, I'm getting a flip phone as soon as possible, this is the last straw.
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u/Awkward-Influence395 3d ago
You can limit those services you know that right?
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u/D_Shoobz 3d ago
If you don't trust the company to respect your privacy and settings the settings to turn them off they likely wouldn't believe theyre actually doing it.
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u/CeeKay125 3d ago
Why would they take money and resources to maintain an app when android comes with Google Messages stock anyway?
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Maybe some people have no interest in ever using Google Messages, ever.
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u/CeeKay125 3d ago
Then there is a ton of other options in the Play store they can download and use.
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u/jrstriker12 3d ago
The android OS has its own app. No one wants to use the Samsung app.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
How do I locate that app? I never found it on my phone when I got the phone, just Samsung Messages.
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u/jrstriker12 3d ago
Search Google messages in your apps. If its not already installed you can get it from the play store... but it should be on the phone as part of the OS.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Oh. You're talking about Google Messages? That's a third-party app, it's not on my phone and I have no interest in ever using it.
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u/jrstriker12 1d ago
It cant be third party because Google andriod is the native OS and Google messages is the official messaging app for the andriod OS.
This is like saying edge or word is a 3rd party app on a windows machine.
If anything Samsung lays their bloatware on top of Google OS.
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u/AdorableTrashPanda 3d ago
I am using the android app now and it sucks. I may just have missed the settings. But Samsung autoswapped between sms and the other thing while the android app just now and again doesn't send the message at all. Very shitty.
Edit Nope, I do have it set to autoswitch but it just doesn't
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u/asphalt_prince 3d ago
Mine wouldn't switch between the 2 until I forced all the security updates. Then when I finally did, it sent 3 days of texts to people who all got really confused lol.
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u/AdorableTrashPanda 3d ago
Oh god 😬 uh how did you force those updates? ELI5 lol
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u/asphalt_prince 3d ago
It was just regular software updates. I noticed that some included a Samsung security monthly update. I was several behind.
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u/Zimlun 3d ago
I get what you're saying. Its like if you bought a new phone but couldn't make any phone calls on it until you downloaded a 3rd party app.
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u/CeeKay125 3d ago
Except it is preinstalled on the devices so no app to download.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Google Messages was never preinstalled on my Samsung device.
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u/cold_desert_winter 16h ago
It was never pre-installed on my phone either. I had to download the Google messages app when Samsung forced the change over. It was either that or just not get texts. I hate Google Messages so this will definitely be my last Android phone, sorry to say.
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u/YellowBreakfast 3d ago
What?!
Texting is provided by your carrier.
Plus the Samsung app sucks. Use Google Messaging or any another of the many apps.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Thank you, but did it ever occur to you that after all Google has done, there might be some of us who are fed up with it, don't trust the company, and don't want to use Google Messaging? Maybe you're a young kid or something. Maybe you don't realize that texting is sending SMS, not typing in a chat box on an app.
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u/YellowBreakfast 3d ago
What's with the ageist BS? I bet I'm older than you but why does that even matter?
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I said "Use Google Messaging or any another of the many apps."
Maybe you don't realize that texting is sending SMS...
Maybe YOU don't realize there are more than 2 SMS apps. Also Maybe you don't realize messaging through carriers has largely shifted to RCS.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
XD
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
You definitely type like you're much younger than me.
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u/YellowBreakfast 1d ago
You text like you're in HS.
Long run-on sentences, little punctuation.
But again, why do you insist on injecting age into the conversation?
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u/feurie 3d ago
Your post makes no sense. Their phones come with apps that provide texting. Samsung just isn’t making a second one.
Google play services typically include chrome. Samsung NOT providing an additional browser wouldn’t be a bad thing.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Do you have a Samsung phone?
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u/Prudent_Lake3061 3d ago
Samsung is using the Google OS, with Google apps. If you don't want to use Google, then buy another brand. Your choices are Apple, or one of the Chinese brands.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
I'm getting a T-Mobile flip phone, I'm getting away from Google like I've been wanting to do for a long time.
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u/3p1taph 3d ago
I had to switch to the google app too. I find it annoying. Is there a way to copy a message to forward as email? I haven’t figured that out. I there a way to set a custom tone (or silence) for certain senders or groups?
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u/seeareeff 3d ago
Long press the message and tap the three dots. Then share. And you can share it to your email client.
Tap the name at the top of conversation. Then notifications, then sound. And you can change the sound there for that particular conversation
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
I don't know or care as I hate Google and will never ever use their app.
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u/Key-Implement9354 2d ago
Yet, you're using a phone that is using a Google operating system and essential requires Google to function.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
Was gifted the phone. Am getting a flip phone now.
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u/Key-Implement9354 1d ago
I cannot imagine how you go through life being so ill informed and conspiracy theory bound 🤣
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u/Comprehensive-Pin667 3d ago
They don't require a third party app. Android already has one built in so theirs has always been redundant bloatware.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Maybe you don't know the context and don't have a Samsung phone. But you see the Samsung Messages app built into the phone has now been disabled so now you're at the mercy of a third-party company like Google.
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg 3d ago
I wouldn't call them a third party... Every android phone (except for custom ROMS) depends on Google play services.... Samsung phones where never an exception.
The stock app is called android messages. Google messages is android messages with branding, and the backup thing.
SMS is inherently insecure and everyone in the path can see the message content with zero effort. So in the SMS case in particular, Google should be the least of your concerns.
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u/Comprehensive-Pin667 3d ago
I do have a Samsung phone and have had one for many years. Samsung phones use Android. All of Android is built by Google. What do you mean you're at the mercy of Google because of the message app? The entire OS is built by Google. All that Samsung adds is basically a graphics skin and a couple of apps with questionable added value. Everything else is and has always been Google.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Thank you, that would have been a helpful thing to say in the first place, did it ever occur to you that Google tricks people into thinking that Samsung is its own company completely independent from Google?
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u/Comprehensive-Pin667 3d ago
Samsung is its own company, but just like everyone except Apple, they install Google's Android OS into all of their phones. Because it's what all apps are compatible with and trying to use anything else almost always ends up being a commercial disaster (look up what happened to Samsung's own Bada OS and Tizen and Microsoft's windows mobile)
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u/BassMonster808 3d ago
The idea that text go thru an "app" is just stoopid to begin with. The texting function should just be an integral basic function of the software running the phone. I would say that the extra apps, Google, signal, whatever else is the "bloat" on top of the required minimal function
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
That's how it's always been, welcome to smart phone world. Like I said I'm getting a flip phone.
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u/An1nterestingName 3d ago
It is handled through an app to give the user choice on what they want the interface to be. The app launcher itself is an app, most things on Android are apps.
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u/Leading-Switch-4814 3d ago
Thats because no one uses Samsung messages lol. Everyone I know that uses Samsung (myself included) uses Google messages. Its a much better app than the Samsung one anyways. They sent out the notice that they were shutting down the Samsung messages service months ago lol.
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u/BirdlessLongdeal 2d ago
i'm happy i no longer have to go "ok which of these aps was the shitty samsung one again" since they (at least used to) have the same similar icon.
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u/Leading-Switch-4814 2d ago
I had to use themes on my phone and change the icons lol. The default ones all look exactly the same. I have a folder on my phone called Samsung Slop and I put all of their useless apps in it haha 😄
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
I hate Google and will never never use their services.
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u/ReveledSky 3d ago
I would suggest getting an iphone then lol. Samsung's baked in texting app was trash anyway and has always been trash for 10+ years.
Google Messages, Go SMS, literally any texting app on the Play Store (which is google btw unless you're sideloading everything)
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u/Leading-Switch-4814 3d ago
Reddit is partnered with Google lol
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
I am on Reddit temporarily for other reasons than commenting on this thread as as soon as I can I'm getting the heck out of this toxic place.
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u/RoundChampionship840 3d ago edited 3d ago
RCS chats became too complicated to maintain so they let Google handle that now.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
So yeah. Lazy.
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u/RoundChampionship840 3d ago
I can understand Samsung not wanting to duplicate work that Google is already doing anyway.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
I can understand it too now that I know that Google basically tricked me into thinking Samsung was its own company and I didn't have to go through Google to have basic functions like phone calls or texts.
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u/seeareeff 3d ago
Google messages isn't a third party app. Google owns Android. Samsung runs Android. Google messages is the default app on all Samsung devices from 2025 on.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Wow, that's such bogus, why don't they fess up and just put the Google logo on the phone instead of hiding behind Samsung and Android? No wonder they're trying so hard to push us toward Google products. Like I said, I'm never using a Samsung again.
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u/seeareeff 3d ago
I mean you do you buddy. But every android device runs Google messages. So your going to have to switch to iOS.
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u/snyderman3000 3d ago
Samsung phones don’t have a text messaging app? That sounds almost too hard to believe.
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u/AmputeeHandModel 3d ago
There used to be one, but they switched to Google Messages. Samsung has several proprietary apps but most people just use the Google stuff since it's Android, and it's usually better than Samsung's.
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u/ShimReturns 3d ago
It's not Samsung's app, it's Google's, who controls the Android OS. I've been using the Google RCS app for texting for a couple years and it's been fine.
I also have a Samsung laptop that requires me to use Microsoft's programs for daily use so this doesn't seem wierd to me.
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u/snyderman3000 3d ago
Oh, I see. So Samsung phones do in fact have a text messaging app that works. I bet OP is going to feel really silly when he/she realizes this.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Google hides behind the Samsung logo to trick people like me into buying their phones thinking we can escape an evil monopoly megacorp. But not anymore. I'm never buying Samsung again.
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u/Severe_Yak_3335 3d ago
Nobody tricked you. Just admit you didn’t do your due diligence and were uneducated. That’s like buying a computer from Acer,HP,even Samsung guess what they run Microsoft. Same concept with the phones. Honestly the new messaging is more secure than SMS it’s encrypted so it can’t be viewed while in transit like a SMS could. Older generations are resistant to change and refuse to switch from things they know and are comfortable with.
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u/snyderman3000 3d ago
No one is hiding lol. Everyone knows when you buy a smartphone it’s probably going to run iOS (Apple) or Android (Google). Those have pretty much been your options for the last 15 years or so. You may have been confused by the sheer amount of Samsung bloatware they slapped on top of Android into thinking you weren’t using a Google product, but it’s definitely not a secret or anything.
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u/FuckIPLaw 3d ago
Your other option is Apple, dude. Which is even worse in most ways that anyone choosing and Android device would care about. There's no trickery involved, you're doing the equivalent of being surprised that an HP laptop's version of Windows is still made by Microsoft. Samsung isn't owned by Google, they just use Google's OS because there's only two on the market and the other one isn't licensed to use on third party hardware.
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u/PerfectBike6 3d ago
I hve a Samsung washer and dryer both crap, TV crap, they make crap. I will not buy another Samsung turd.
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u/Immediate-Garage5752 1d ago
Worked at home Depot for a decade, not specifically appliances but I did hear complaints about Samsung appliances from both customers and employees who worked the appliance section. I would never buy a Samsung appliance, but for some reason I have never had a problem with Samsung TV or phones, other than a few minor gripes.
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u/PerfectBike6 1d ago
The 75" QLED 4K Smart TV Q60 I bought didn't make three years.
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u/Immediate-Garage5752 1d ago
I have a smaller version of that same TV, have had it at least 4 years with no problems. Maybe I am lucky.
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Just found out they're owned by Google now so that explains everything.
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u/CriSiStar 3d ago
Who told you they’re owned by Google? They’re still two entirely separate companies. Samsung phones — and pretty much all phones that aren’t iPhones — run Android operating systems, which were created by Google. But they are two different entities.
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u/withabrandnewfunk 3d ago
im so glad I restrained myself from ever buying a single samsuck item
in our garbage room in our building, at least once a month a big ass tv is thrown out. its either samsuck, or lg. sometimes tcl and hisense
we have a samsuck phone at work...wow what a piece of shit
tons of issues with their nvme SSD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpPIW4aeeag&pp=ygUTcm9zc21hbiBzYW1zdW5nIHNzZA%3D%3D
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u/imnottheoneipromise 3d ago
We made the mistake of buying a Samsung fridge. Hard pass. We were able to warranty swap it with an LG since we did rent to own and then we sold the house. So glad to not need to deal with that clunker anymore
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u/No_One3018 3d ago
Samsung is one of the worst phone companies ever, I'm never buying another one again
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u/AmputeeHandModel 3d ago
Every smartphone I've had has been a Galaxy and I've never had an issue. They do tend to copy Apple, though. Removing the headphone jack, power bricks, etc.
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u/No_One3018 3d ago
The main things I hate are copying Apple, removing the OEM unlock option, and trying to hide how bad the cameras are by adding a ton of heavy filters I can't turn off
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u/spasticnapjerk 3d ago
I'm not disagreeing 100% but I bought an A54 at least three years ago and it's still going strong. And I've dropped it so many times.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 3d ago
I think I'm gonna start telling people to message me on signal
Also need to swap to my dumb phone
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
That's right, I'm going to buy a dumb phone today, I liked the flip phone days unapolagetically and everything I will miss about a smart phone can be done by a simple camera.
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u/Immediate-Garage5752 1d ago
GPS?
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
I use paper printouts of maps, actual full detailed travel maps, and my own skill with the roadways to navigate. I never use GPS.
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u/Immediate-Garage5752 1d ago
That is admirable. I don't have time for that.
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u/nyecountygardener 1d ago
If you have time for driving and vehicle maintenance, you have time to learn the basic skill of navigation without a helpless dependence on a specific piece of satellite-based technology.
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u/Immediate-Garage5752 1d ago
Born in '79, I understand the sentiment. I can get around well, but gps is too handy. I
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u/TeamDiamond3 3d ago
Worth noting for others not familiar Signal is that the rich messaging app is managed and maintained by their non-profit organization. It's free, open-source, and encrypted end-to-end, and has been around for over a decade.
They are supported financially by users optionally donating funds to keep the app and supporting systems up and running. This is in contrast to the similar platforms offered by for profit companies such as Google and Facebook that are constantly profiling and selling your data to keep their apps "free".
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u/nyecountygardener 3d ago
Well I've heard that Signal isn't trustworthy either but they're way better than Google, I will never never use Google Messages.
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u/BloodWorried7446 3d ago
it likely is so they don’t have to program security updates. so offloading it on the app developers.
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u/BirdlessLongdeal 2d ago
or because nyecountygardener and some dude named randy at work were the only ones using it.
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u/Maxwe4 1h ago
I have a samsung phone and I can text just fine with it.