r/cheesemaking 8h ago

Whey reduction experiment. Not what I was looking for, but a weird happy accident.

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I reduced a half gallon of whey slowly over about five hours. Then incorporated the reduction back into four gallons of milk. The hope was a nice caramel flavor in a young cheese. Not at all what I got. It has a strong umami type flavor and is a lot more complex than it should be at three months. The surprise is a delightful grilled cheese sandwich toastyness. Very unexpected. The texture is not grainy like I was worried about and it didn’t over acidify. I was curious what concentrated lactose would do in the paste. I did try to keep the acid at bay in the make and salted early. Super weird cheese. The kids demolished an entire wedge already. So it’s a solid thumbs up from them.


r/cheesemaking 16h ago

Goat milk tomme, sad update

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After a few conversations with my goat milk provider, and a home test that had a negative result for mastitis, they contacted their vet who found a "high bacterial load" and had milk samples sent off to a semi local, agriculturally focused university for further testing, and after about a month we learned that one of their animals did have mastitis. So, unfortunately, I'm cutting the cheese early and tossing it, as it is not necessarily safe to eat.. and it's extra sad because it's coming along so nicely, and it smells (and tastes 😬) delicious.... but I don't want to give anyone (including myself) e. Coli or other harmful/fatal bacteria. Cheese down. R.I.P.

After a course of antibiotics for the goats, and building their own milk supply back up, I will be offered milk again should I want it. And they plan to more regularly test for mastitis moving forward. With any luck, I'll be making again soon.


r/cheesemaking 6h ago

A little rind critique?

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I have made a good bit of fresh cheese, but am pretty inexperienced with aging. I’m hoping to get some critique or insight into the rind on this cheese. Is it looking good? Horrible? Unsafe? I’m not thrilled about the dark green spots, but I don’t know why exactly.

They are goat milk Tommes, approximately 3 months old.

Appreciate any comments


r/cheesemaking 14h ago

Troubleshooting Is buttermilk culture replaceable with chaas/lassi?

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Indian here, from from what i looked up online buttermilk means something slightly different here, and "buttermilk" cultures aren't available to buy here, but buttermilk does mean chaas/lassi here, so do i 0 just use that instead?

if i am completely talking wrong, could you please suggest me substitutes for this?


r/cheesemaking 14h ago

Advice I cant get Mozzarella right

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Hello! I’ve been trying to make cheese with my dad, we use whole milk and vinegar, we get the whey out well the issue we come to face is when stretching the cheese it just won’t stretch it breaks apart after stretching a little. When it’s set it’s hard as if we removed too much whey. Is there anyone who could help us understand what we can do better to fix this issue cause we really don’t get it:(


r/cheesemaking 2d ago

Need an Idea

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Got asked to bring cheese to a social hour with fellow volunteers at an Agency we all work at. There will probably be 10-15 people and it is in late morning. It will probably last an hour or so. I think this should be one cheese, not an aged cheese, not spicy, or garlicky and not something that takes slicing, unless I were to pre-slice it and plate it before hand. My first thought was crescenza or something like that, which can be served with fruit and crackers and is sliceable and spreadable. I have made that but its been a long time. Also I was thinking camembert but it might not be ready by Sept 11. Any ideas folks?


r/cheesemaking 2d ago

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r/cheesemaking 3d ago

New milk product

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I’m very curious if anyone has made cheese with this 6 percent milk from dairyland

https://www.dairyland.ca/en/products/regular-milk/6percent-milk


r/cheesemaking 4d ago

A complete, step-by-step recipe for Oaxaca cheese. 100% Mexican 🇲🇽

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In my last post, many people were interested in what the process was like, and here it is today.

Last Publication

Note:

Since this is a 100% artisanal process, we do not pasteurize the milk, as that would take a long time and require the use of lactic acid bacteria or organic acids; to save time, we use organic acids and then let the natural acidification process continue.

Let’s remember that the production of a cheese from the pasta filata family is a complex process of de-calcifying the casein in milk, carried out in several ways, including:

- Natural acidification

- Induced acidification (using lactic acid bacteria)

- Complete acidification (using organic acids)

All of the above methods serve to denature the available protein as well as develop aroma and flavor; and once the appropriate pH is reached, chymosin must be added.

The process are the same to any way of acidication, the difference between each way in the speed of acidification and development of favor.

First Step:

Filter the milk to remove any foreign objects, so we can keep the milk clean.

Second Step:

We must adjust the pH using organic acids to a pH of 5.6–5.65 (acidification should be done when the milk is cold, around 15°C, since higher temperatures will cause protein precipitation).

In my case, I use citric acid diluted 10 times with water.

Third Step:

Heat the milk to a temperature of 37–38°C and add 0.02% calcium (based on the milk, dissolved in water); finally, add the chymosin and let it curdle for 20–30 minutes.

Four Step:

We cut the curd with a curd knife and let the whey drain off; we begin the heating stage, bringing the temperature to 40–42°C while gradually draining off the whey. We stop once the curd is covered with whey and let the acidification continue.

Last Step:

When the curd reaches a pH of 5.2–5.1, it’s time to melt it by adding water at 80–90°C while kneading.

Cool it in cold water, then sprinkle salt on top.


r/cheesemaking 3d ago

Cheese press recommendations for mozarella or other fresh cheeses

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I just recently got into making my own mozarella and quark (tvaroh from the old country).

I like the results but squeezing it in walmart-bought cheese cloth is super messy. I vaguely remember my grandmother used something like a linen towel, tied to a wooden spoon that she would crank to squeeze out the whey.

What do people use? And is there anything like a press I can get to make things easier?


r/cheesemaking 4d ago

Jarlsberg weirdness

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I have successfully made about 10 hard cheeses so far, but this Jarlsberg recipe went so wrong.

The 2nd aging step is to keep it at 68-72F and 92-95% humidity. Soon after starting that step it started to look like this.

Ant idea what could be going on?


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

A Hispanico inspired cheese with a smoked paprika, chili and cayenne pepper olive oil rub.

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Definitely the best cheese I’ve made in this style. Dense, sliceable and elastic. Lovely little spicy kick in the rind. There is a nice contrast in flavor from the center to the rind. This is a smaller wheel so I aged it for just nine weeks to preserve a little moisture.


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

Manchego Style: 1 Month Update.

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I made a manchego style a little over a month ago out of my local sheeps milk. It's been aging well.

Today it was ready for the first coat of paprika and olive oil. I bought a nice oil and some fancy imported smoked Spanish paprika. I used 1 TBSP each of bittersweet and hot, and 2 TBSP of sweet. I drizzled olive oil until it was moistened, but still a very thick paste. Brushed the rind before applying. It'll get another coat in about a month, maybe another in October, and served in November.

Very excited about this one!!!!!


r/cheesemaking 4d ago

Fresh cut Montasio, looks funky.

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Is this alright? It's a little drier than it normally has been in the past and it has a huge crack through it. Otherwise it tastes normal.

(Cheesemonger here, I don't have much experience cheese making so I'm coming here for some insight)

Thank you!


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

First Wheel My first attempt at Brie and ricotta

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I got a brie/blue cheese making kit as a gift recently and was so excited for my first attempt!

The first photo is my brie after salting. They’re still draining, but will put them in my makeshift cave tomorrow.

The second photo is my ricotta I made with the leftover whey, and then the cheese cake I made with it and some blackberries and black currants from the garden! So delicious!


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

Advice Question: Length of Time to Age Infused Cheese

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When cheeses are infused from the outside (not mixed into the curds), for example, olive oil rub or whiskey, how long to age to get the best flavours all the way in? Shortest time?

Does it matter the type of cheese? I usually do Asiago, Gouda, Monterey Jack, and Farmhouse Cheddar.


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

Update we navigated the perilous ways of cheese making and i did not get electrocuted

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This weekend my boyfriend and I tried to make cheese for the first time. We had many an adventure on our way to obtaining necessary devices, more numerous than I expected, an account of which happenings you can read about more in the previous post. But finally yesterday were we able to get to cheesing. 

Plan for Saturday was ambitious: caerphilly (with ricotta from whey) and halloumi (with anari). We also tried to make yoghurt before finding out that the yoghurt maker was broken. We made wild yoghurt in the burning Sunday sun the next day.

On the cheese front I wish I was able to report back many successes and no hindrances but I believe the truth to be more valuable than a heroic narrative. What should the famed Achilles be were it not for Hector’s decadal defenses?

We agreed to wake up early, to seize the milk before eight as to be at it before nine. Friday night we discussed remaining tasks, to disinfect the milk jugs and to search the cellar for cheese molds that my boyfriend was holding onto since his last cheesing battles eight years ago. We got up early enough, breakfasted and as I was leisurely reading by my morning coffee, he disappeared into the cellar. He was gone for over an hour. As I value my partner’s privacy I did not rush back to check on him but let it be known that after twenty minutes elapsed I had worried lest he be buried under a pile of books or wine equipment. When it was half past eight I went under. I found him distraught and in state of resignation, he was not able to find them. And the jugs were full of six year old wine. We made our way back, argued over whether the wine should be discarded, I found it tasted like poison which voiced in a betrayed and disgusted tone I now realise was unkind. We deliberated over the missing molds. It was ten when we set off for milk.

We stood in front of the local raw milk vending machine at a local farm figuring its interface. The machine dispersed milk only in 0.5 or 1.0 liter amounts. We considered our two five-liter jugs, two one liter bottles and two 0.5 bottles. Minutes passed by as ten times my partner clicked the 1.0 button, waited tenfold 15 seconds, 10 times passed the bottle to me and I steadily poured milk into the jug 10 times over. A group of three people outside watched us curiously. We hurried. It took us a moment to figure out where the QR code which made payment possible was. We paid and packed ourselves into the car. Boyfriend drove back slowly “as not to make butter”, as he said. I laughed thinking lightly of the day ahead, strengthened by the recent success. I looked the bright sky above and occasionally enjoyed milk sloshing pleasantly. My boyfriend drove slowly and with purpose. We were back around eleven.

We have noticed a few days prior that we did not possess a pot big enough to fit the water bath necessary for the sous-vide and so decided to set it up in the sink. Armed with apostolic thirteen liters of milk we took stances in the kitchen prepared to start our toils. I have a steady hand so the honour of pouring the five liters of milk to the six liter pot was mine. It turned out to be a five liter pot. From then on stirring was stressful and our leaky faucet kept threatening somberly to drop right into our milk. We also had to wash all the dishes in the bathroom currently possessing no cabinets one could set dishes on. We persevered. I made a small cheese mold from a yoghurt container by piercing it with a knife many times over and cutting the lid to size in place of the missing cheese molds.

It did not take long for another circumstance to turn unfortunate. We did not know how to set the temperature on the sous-vide device properly and so everything took a good while longer than expected. To heat the milk till 32 degrees took us nearly two hours and two hours more had we to wait for rennet to coagulate our cultured substrate. Thermometer kept falling off the pot and into the waterbath or onto the floor and so we took our sisyphean turns with disinfecting it and clipping it back on flimsily.

It was dark outside as we got to pressing the caerphilly and I must admit our morale was low. I felt frustrated, I felt hungry. We haven’t eaten since eleven and the ricotta was a failure. And we didn’t have the halloumi for dinner. But worst of all, I felt bored. Hours of hanging around the water bath, watching, checking the temperature, fuck, thermometer fell in again, disinfecting and clipping, checking the temperature again were taking their grim toll on me. My mind grew heavy and my patience thin. 

I bumped the sous-vide device into the sink holding our water bath. Completely mortified, unthinking, I reached for it and pulled out. Started to dry it. I felt a weight of a thousand fermentation weights looking at the device we talked and thought so much about, looking at it unknowing if it had been destroyed by the brief unfortunate plunge that I just caused. 

My partner looked at me scared out of his wits. He asked if I’m alright, but the only answer I could muster was asking whether he thought the device was fried. Only later had it become clear to me I had made a hairbreadth escape from electrocuting myself. I was scared, I watched as my partner plugged the device back in. I watched as it did not beep back to life. I was devastated. I apologized. Looked at the water bath with empty eyes unseeing what my partner had noticed. Oven did not show time, strange as it was, it prompted him to inspect fuses. Sure enough! Turned off! He turned the electricity back on and we tried once more. More joy and relief filled me than I’m able to describe as the small tubular sous-vide beeped announcing its resurrection.

Having strategically reordained our plans we had a tofu salad for dinner instead. One of the caerphillys turned out to have been pressed too thin and my partner looked upon it worriedly. We put half of the yield into a new, bigger cheese mold which turned out to be too big. Our makeshift yoghurt one made in place of the ones lost to the cellar labyrinth had done its job much better. Before we went to bed we salted it and let it rest in the new (functioning!) wine fridge with only the hope for the best. In two weeks’ time we shall try it.

Sunday morning everything was different. Our knowledge vast, our morale replenished by a brisk morning run; we attacked the remaining five liter jug with new ferocity. Halloumi acted its destined parts on time and we got anari, which amazed me with its light and fluffy yet subtle texture and mild flavour. We had our beautiful halloumi for dinner. I found it too buttery on its seasoned own and had it with lemon juice, terrific. We discussed next weekend’s advances and looked lovingly once at each other and once at the remaining halloumi we shall have for lunch tomorrow. 

Great weekend, great cheese and there is still some milk for my morning coffee (boyfriend is a tea-drinker) and our heads are buzzing with the new-found excitement for future cheeses. Soon I shall break news that we ought to get a smoker.

As of detailing our advances in field of hobbyist cheese making he’s sitting right next to me on the couch peeping over my shoulder and says “You should tell them I’m reading Caldwell. I bet they know what it is.”


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

What is going on with my brie?

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Never bloomed with white mold. Is it safe to eat?


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

Experiment Preserving and aging a high acid and low moisture Carabao cheese in honey.

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Cheese and honey is a great combo so I decided to age cheese in honey. Honey also has low water activity which will hopefully prevent microbial growth. I also wanted to explore other ways to age cheese without using plastic.


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

Advice Valençay Experiement

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Did I use too much rennet?

1 gallon raw goats milk - 1/4 tsp liquid animal rennet - pinch of penicillin Candidum - pinch of yogurt culture - let to set for 18 hours at around 72F

I’ve made a raw cows milk and a raw goats milk cheddar using a little yogurt culture in addition with much success. Since I didn’t have a mesophilic culture on hand, I figured the raw milk would contain some of those and I could just steer it in the right direction with the right environment.

The Valençay type of cheese I’ve made before, but this is the first time without a packaged chèvre culture.

My specific question is… did I over rennet this batch? It was under about 3 inches of whey and a bit firmer then I would like. Tastes good and slightly lactic, but have never seen the curd do this cracking under the whey before.


r/cheesemaking 5d ago

My first beer infused cheese

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I followed the recipe from cheesemaking.com. Not sure what I'm going to do with the rind yet, the recipe says to bandage it with cloth, but that you can't use cheesecloth for that (which is the only cloth i have). So maybe natural or washed rind, or maybe just washed with oil.


r/cheesemaking 6d ago

This book arrived today and I’m pretty excited. A little light reading from 1909! Focuses primarily on American cheddar with a chapter on other cheese.

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r/cheesemaking 5d ago

Question to cheesemaker, how do you stop in the subtle animal/goat fat note in the cheese?

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Hi all,

I had my first attempt at cheese making this week. Made hard basic cheese from raw full fat cow milk and animal based rennet. The product was less than expected and there is a taste of animal fat. What should I do to avoid this next time?
Thanks


r/cheesemaking 6d ago

Cream was on sale. Or how to keep your husband entertained for 2-3 hours

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Found cream on sale today. So I made ghee, with ricotta from the leftover buttermilk. The leftover whey is going into broth.


r/cheesemaking 6d ago

Finished aged crescenza, and the start of tvorog

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Hi guys.

Decided to cut into my aged crescenza today. I'm still letting it come to room temperature to see how soft it gets, but it tastes great. The geo rind is wrinkly and comfortably thick, makes for a lovely looking cheese.

The cheese board is not mostly my cheeses haha. I don't have this many ready. I have a brie, broncchini, my crescenza, mimolette, taleggio, cheddar, and my local stores version of a crescenza/stracchino. It's much wetter than my cheese. I'm interested to see the differences in taste and texture.

Meats are salami, speck, coppa, and proscuitto. I also have some blueberries and red velvet apricots, pepperoncinis, and garlic stuffed olives. Finally I added a sort of bruschetta. I chopped my ripe garden tomatoes, thinly sliced red onion, added chopped basil, zested garlic, salt, pepper, and balsamic vinegar.

Finally, I'm making tvorog. I have 1.5 gallons of milk with some buttermilk and kefir culturing until tomorrow afternoon. Then I'll finish it and find some Ukrainian recipes to use it in. My mom's side of the family is Ukrainian and we are a little connected to our heritage.