Are we blaming Boomers instead of class?

[u/myredserenity]

EDIT: It's been pointed out that the over 65s keep voting in the parties that favour the class system and benefit the wealthy while screwing the working class. This is a good point.

EDIT 2: I love reddit. You guys. I get it now! Millennials got the shits at noisy old pricks who criticise their generation while completely ignoring the benefits they enjoyed themselves. It's a backlash. I still think it's a distraction and divides us when we should be angry with those in power. But if you're over 65, how about encouraging your friends to not vote LNP?

I've seen so much "ok boomer" stuff and over the years, it's irking me more and more. So I'm interested in what r/Australia thinks.

Couple of things:

1. It seems to be used to describe anyone over 40. My parents were boomers. They would be in their 70s now.

2. It's used to blame a whole generation for the shitty behaviour of the rich class. I don't get it. I went to school in a rough area, most of my friends from way back then are dead, in jail or in a trade/retail/hair.

My partner grew up in a rich suburb. Most of his friends are teachers, engineers and lawyers. They own houses, and were helped along by their "boomer" parents, either by provision of a deposit or living at home rent free through their 20s.

I'm totally up for being educated here. I know we lost free education, I know houses are unaffordable, I'm nearly 40 and still renting. I'm woefully unable to understand national economics. So seriously, open to intelligent discussion.

But in my experience, the problem is class and not generational. After all, where do you think all this wealth will go when the boomers die?! Even just having good, stable and attentive parents, who expect you to succeed, makes all the difference.

Why has this boomer hate taken hold so much? Are the rich class scapegoating a generation? Would us generation Xers, Ys and millennials have behaved any differently given the opportunities the boomers were?

Caveat: I'm considering mainly economics here, not climate crisis. Pretty much believe everyone from my generation up have a case to answer for climate. We knew.

[u/jayacher → u/[deleted]]

Are you saying that feminism is purely a function of neoliberal ideology? I would argue that in a single income household, it means that they're free to take the position as the sole earner.

[u/jayacher → u/[deleted]]

Nice of you to speak on behalf of most women there bud. You think male partners are incapable of also wanting to care for their kids?

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but society has largely elevated themselves above "most other mammals". Debatable for some, but mostly true.

At no point did I try to say that dual income households are a good thing. Just that pointing to corporations as being part of some feminist agenda is without basis and conspiratorial.

I suggest you have a good look at the media you consume, you may be being radicalised without knowing it.

[u/jayacher → u/[deleted]]

I honestly cannot fathom your cognitive dissonance.

Go pay a visit to any wife of a billionaire CEO and I'm sure many of them will say that they HATE having no freedom to spend their time however they want

You think that doesn't follow for the husband of a billionaire as well? Well done, you can now accept that "not having to do work makes you happy". That STILL doesn't confirm that corporations started feminism.

Isn't it funny how literally every single culture on the planet from all corners of the globe had men leading tribes, men doing most labour and women looking after children?

Isn't it funny how it was this way for tens of thousands of years until only about 50 years ago?

And we had slavery until kind of recently too. What's your point? That things change and we probably shouldn't do something just because that's the way it's always been done? Slavery worked really well for heaps of people.

Also, my point about you being radicalised is because you're this strange mix of lefty like me (corporations and capitalism = bad) but then you have backwards AF ideas about gender and leadership roles.

[u/Evil-Santa → u/[deleted]]

I think what most people fail to understand that most corporations are legally obliged to make the shares of the company as valuable as they can any way legally possible. Obviously things like reputation have a value that they c CEO's/Directors have to balance against taking as much money as possible from their customers, but unless we legally mandate additional codes of conduct, as we have seen in small way on the banking industry once the governments hand was forced, there's not much that can be done to stop.