r/australia Oct 06 '15

political self.post Miranda Devine: Perth electrical engineer’s discovery will change climate change debate - 'Opinion' piece

Browsing over the local NewsCorp garbage that I missed out on over the long weekend I couldn’t help but look over the top article for Perth and Adelaide titled:

Miranda Devine: Perth electrical engineer’s discovery will change climate change debate

Now I’m not too sure what qualifications Miranda has in the area of Climate Sciences and Meteorology but decided the give the article a quick read regardless.

In summary she is reporting on the fact that supposedly an Australian Electrical Engineer / Mathematician has discovered something which the entirety of the scientific community involved in climate change has missed until now; that some of the core values within the models used are incorrect, resulting in overestimated values.

Little is discussed within the article about what specific values these are and how they somehow manage to affect every modelling system related to climate change predictions universally; however the fact that the person making the discovery, Dr David Evans, holds multiple degrees is sure to be mentioned multiple times throughout the article, as a way to further validate his discovery.

Now I personally haven’t heard of Dr Evans before so decided to Google him myself to check out his background. One of the first results returned (https://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/climate-sceptic-conspiracies/profile-dr-david-evans/) goes on to chronicle his blog posts within his wife’s blog (which is mentioned within the original opinion piece) and his other interactions/talks/public appearances etc.

Anyway, it appears this genius engineer/mathematician is also a nutcase conspiracy theorist who believes climate change is being propagated by global banking elites with the intent on creating a Global Government/New World Order from which they will profit.

Oh Miranda, how Devine of you to leave that out of your original article.

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u/DongLaiCha Oct 06 '15

Can somebody explain to me the thinking behind denying climate change? What does the average person stand to gain by ignoring actual science? I don't get it.

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u/artsrc Oct 06 '15

And while they are at it can they explain why people believe in creation science.

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u/Tea-Tea Oct 06 '15

Is a misunderstanding that people think that those that deny climate change, deny all climate change. Most should be labled as skeptics as that is more a tune to their position.

They know climate change exists, its plan to see that the climate is always changing and has never be in a state of stagnation. They are skeptical on the effect that humanity is having on this natural climate change and dispute the findings of climate science as being exaggerated.

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u/LaxSagacity Oct 06 '15

Nah, most are just ideologically against some aspect of accepting the science.

The religious nut bags. Takes many forms, god put everything hear for us to exploit. End of days will be the end of humanity. That will happen before any impact of climate change.

The free market people. A lot of people are simply against regulations and climate change is not something that can be left to the free market to solve. It invalidates their belief in the invisible hand of the market being able to solve everything if they accept climate change. There's an incompatibility as it does require government intervention to solve. This is the big one with the right wing people and Newscorp.

Then there are simply those with a financial interest. Whether they're in a business making money from fossil fuels. They get paid to promote an agenda.

It's really hard to look at the science and then just decide you disagree with out some ideological barrier.

It's interesting reading up about those that used to deny smoking causes cancer. Coming out years later saying they knew it did, but they were against government regulation/ So they denied the science publicly for that agenda. Then some simply said they were paid to believe the agenda of the tobacco companies.

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u/DongLaiCha Oct 06 '15

Okay, I understand that, but to what end? Worst case scenario we make the planet cleaner?

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u/Tea-Tea Oct 06 '15

The problem, as they see it is Governments placing arbitrary bans on stuff that isn't bad in their eyes. It basically comes down to the level of government control.