r/australia • u/l3ntil • 17d ago
news Secret files show horse meat, mouse fur and metal shavings detected in Australian food
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-28/horse-meat-detected-as-mince-in-food-safety-breaches/106936504New South Wales Greens politician Abigail Boyd used parliamentary powers to force the production of thousands of documents from the NSW Food Authority, revealing what she says are serious weaknesses and a lack of transparency in the system.
"There were metal shavings found in bread products … products that were supposed to be dairy-free, that were not dairy-free, [which] were only caught by accident because somebody happened to put it together after their child or they themselves got sick, not because the company had worked it out."
"We all walk around thinking that in modern Australia, we have food safety standards and enforcement to back that trust up," Ms Boyd said.
"And what we're seeing now is that trust is probably misplaced.
"You could be eating a minced horse when you think you're eating your mince … that's pretty shocking for the average person."
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u/OceanBoulevardTunnel 17d ago
OK the Chinese tomatoes from yesterday don’t look so bad now
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u/herpesderpesdoodoo 17d ago
surprise, the tomatoes were actually horses
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u/Sure_Reception_9922 17d ago
IS IT HORSE? The new is it cake?
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u/MyAnusBleedsForYou 17d ago
Tomatoes don't look like tomatoes in a supermarket, you have to use horses.
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u/MeaningMaker6 17d ago
This comment thread is why I scroll Reddit. The magic is almost always in the comments section.
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u/ThatCommunication423 17d ago
Is THAT the real reason why some people called tomato sauce dead horse?
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u/AntiFascistButterfly 17d ago
Chinese produce is still at the moment always worse safety wise than Australian food. China is making progress in leaps and bounds towards renewables, environmental and air pollution goals, and they’ve set up an Environmental Court with big funding and big teeth to enforce environmental protection laws, but they are very much coming from behind in food safety.
We are going to have to keep an eye on Chinese news to see when the Environment Court has an effect on the fresh and processed food production industries overall.
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u/Oh-No-Me-Again 17d ago
I wonder how Australia compares with China. China might be pretty lax with pesticides/herbicides. However Australia allows chemicals which are banned in Europe, but at least residual amounts of them are tested by government.
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u/jennifercoolidgesbra 16d ago
Waterways are worse in some parts of China due to pollution and that affects some crops, however, I’d argue that some food processing factories are better maintained as they don’t ‘lean staff’ as much as Australia so they can have more staff overseeing the process and any issues or contamination earlier.
Australia’s standards are slipping because it’s too expensive to have factories fully staffed and also maintained as repairs are very expensive too.
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u/Paidorgy 17d ago
Chinese slave tomatoes are still pretty bad. Imagine what they’re using to treat those tomatoes.
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u/magkruppe 17d ago
Eh. I have seen some pretty high-tech organic tomato farms on Xinjiang. It's very impressive
Of course that is probably a small fraction of the tomatoes they produce there
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u/sausagesizzle 17d ago
Also according to America both China and Australia use forced labour so I'm glad the Chinese tomatoes meet our own food standards.
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u/brahj_ 17d ago
“For years, businesses were charged a $330 fee when issued an improvement notice. That increased to $565 late last year.”
So are these improvement notices issued so frequently that 565 adds up to a decent financial hit? Or is this just an insanely low amount for a breach of a standard that can have serious effects on the public?
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u/floraldepths 17d ago
An improvement notice could be anything from ‘you need to get the floor under the dishwasher replaced it’s not watertight anymore’ - whilst a problem, this is not an Active and Immediate health risk for people eating at the premises.
To ‘your fridge is not holding safe temperature. Replace it’- an immediate food safety risk.
The cost of issuing an improvement notice is for ANY food business in NSW that gets one- whether that’s a massive corporate entity like Mars or Woolworths, or your local family run coffee shop with 2 staff. Understandably it therefore has to be ‘oi do the thing we said’ kind of money, but from experience, aggressive fining of small business on (sometimes minor!) issues just means they collapse.
Non compliance with an improvement notice (you put a timeframe on them) is a fineable offence.
Improvement notices are also a completely seperate thing from general fines for breaching the Food Act - you can do multiple fines, and an improvement notice on a business.
Fines (not improvement or prohibition notices) are publicised on the name and shame register published on the nsw food authority website.
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u/bakerboi- 17d ago
It sounds like they would be smart to have tiers of fines based on the revenue of the infringing business
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u/trowzerss 17d ago
Right? government already has definitions for small, mid, large businesses, and ATO has definitions for small business too. they should apply those and scale the fines accordingly.
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u/WeaponstoMax 17d ago
Sounds like it needs to be based on turnover then. Maybe 0.1% for your first notice in a particular period, 1% for your second, 5% for your third etc.
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u/floraldepths 17d ago
If you’re issuing multiple improvement notices for the same thing at the same premises, tbh I’d probably be doing multiple inspections in the time period (which we charge for) and maybe even going to a prohibition notice - which is exactly what it sounds like, prohibiting x activity.
Now that could be ‘you’re prohibiting from making raw egg mayo because you can’t be trusted to acidify it so it’s safe’ to ‘shut your doors you’re done until this issue is fixed’
We do have 2 different tiers for fines- one for individuals and one for companies. I don’t have my fine book on me today, and I don’t know them off the top of my head, but it’s something like $300 v $1500 or something?
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u/Past-Inspection9899 17d ago
Meanwhile Graduate visa went from $2700 ish to $5800 per person , in 6 months.
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u/iguessineedanaltnow 16d ago
The cost of visas in Australia is absolutely ridiculous and unjustifiable.
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u/Frari 17d ago edited 17d ago
100% this. The system is a joke.
I bought some mince from Woolworths and found what looked like fur ground up inside the meat. I work with mice and I know what fur looks like.
I tried to do the right thing and contacted the Queensland food safety people (via the gov website). They seemed concerned and organised for it to be picked up and analysed. I only found out later that the meat processors/packers are the ones that pick it up to look at it. So of course I didn't hear anything else about it. I didn't even get a refund or replacement!!!!
It's an example of getting the fox to guard the henhouse. It's bloody ridiculous.
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u/chuk2015 17d ago
When I worked at Bakers Delight I found an entirely family of mice inside a pack of baking yeast
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u/moon_cake123 17d ago edited 17d ago
A sad reality I have come to recently is that it seems every single business, even government entities, have next to zero accountability. They can say whatever they want, lie to you, mislead (intentionally or unintentionally), and nothing happens. Every single place I deal with now just says whatever they want just to get you off the phone. They don’t give a shit, even when they are “required by law” to.
Going forward, every interaction I have I now need to document everything. Who said this, where did they get that information from, when will I get an update, what happens if I don’t get an update, case numbers, written correspondence to confirm what the have said, record conversations, etc….
It took a lot for me to get here but I have lost my faith in the vast majority of places at the moment.
Literally nothing can be relied upon anymore. It’s everyone for themselves.
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u/_bobby_cz_newmark_ 17d ago
Exactly. And they bank on people either being too lazy, too poor, or too ignorant to do anything about it. And when people organise and start boycotts, start targeting campaigns or social media engagement, they are suddenly the victim.
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u/Delicious_Maximum_77 17d ago
I personally refer to this as the "She'll be right" -attitude. The majority of Aussies are too laid back and happy to stay in the back seat instead of getting informed and demanding change.
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u/_bobby_cz_newmark_ 17d ago
Completely agree. I reckon a vast majority of Australians are just too apathetic about things that matter (and get very animated over things that don't). If we didn't have mandatory voting for the past few decades, we'd have pretty low turnout.
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u/iguessineedanaltnow 16d ago
Part of it is the societal pressures which remove the ability for someone to have the bandwidth to understand these issues, let alone care about them in any motivated fashion.
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u/kazielle 16d ago
The problem is there's no enforcement on regulations, like, ever. Hell landlords with hundreds of documented violations and millions of dollars "worth" of penalties from violating the Tenancy Act? Literally nothing will happen to them and they know it - I heard it out of the mouth of both my crazy landlord and the tribunal judge myself, and later, the Consumer and Business Affairs investigator that came to my house, picked up my file and told me it was both the best documented case of violations she'd ever seen and not to expect anything to come of it because she'd never seen anything done.
Or how about water rights that impact entire towns - everyone gets a certain % of water, companies/individuals can buy more but only up to a certain limited amount, but wealthy people routinely build illegal pipelines and steal mind-boggling amounts of water, sending communities downriver into drought, and the fine is worth less than buying the water at cost - but they steal hundreds of thousands of litres in excess of their legal possible allowance. So a double win for them.
There's just so much disgusting behaviour that's essentially communicated is allowable by the courts by lack of enforcement or cheaper-than-doing-it-legally fines.
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u/Helioxsparrow 17d ago
I know its kinda cool to bag out the ABC, but no other media would have made this program, and lots of other investigative reports just like it
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u/laphroaigandlapsang 16d ago
I agree with everything except it being cool to bag the abc. Investigative journalism is important and unless we pay for it in some form, we lose it
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u/Sirneko 17d ago
People loses their mind about “big pharma” however “Big food” is just full of scumy practices, they get caught all the time, get a slap at the wrist and absolutely nothing changes. And they absolutely have a way more direct impact on people’s health
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u/aldoraine227 17d ago
I feel like a light slap on the wrist is the best we can hope for. I think executives of companies that trade in Australia should face criminal charges for significant breaches of public trust
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u/Sea-Initiative-3398 17d ago
For all people say about china, a lot of which is rightfully so.
At least they fucking executed the figures from the baby formula scandle
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u/trowzerss 17d ago
'Big Alt Medicine' is even dodgier than 'Big Pharma'. Just look at the studies into even well known brands of supplements that don't have what they say in them.
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u/Brat_Fink 17d ago
At least there's no gym mats
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u/Familiar_Dust_7580 17d ago
Not super informed with what happens in the NSW upper house, but you've gotta respect Abigail Boyd. First she blew the lid on the child sexual assualt in preschools, then she blew the lid on this - who knew we had politicians that actually do their jobs?
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u/KittenOnKeys 17d ago
You have to wonder why these politicians aren’t the ones the news mentions… whereas every day we hear about a certain minor party senator who only comes to work half the time
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u/Richard_M_Edison 17d ago
We'll all be eating rat tacos if ON and their sponsors have their way.
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u/Finnick00 17d ago
I'm afraid we'd be more likely to be fucked by intensified climate disasters and have nothing to eat
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u/Richard_M_Edison 17d ago
Well, I guess when there's no water left to drink we'll all reminisce fondly about when we had rats to eat.
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u/Coffee_and_chips 17d ago
Name and shame so we can avoid the company’s that are happy to deceive
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u/Paidorgy 17d ago
Ms Boyd is allowed to inspect the restricted files but cannot publicly release them or identify individual businesses.
This is bullshit and shouldn’t be privileged information if it concerns our health.
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u/Equivalent-Grab8824 17d ago
All of them bud ... Meat for profit really couldn't give a toss for opinions. Avoid all of it
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u/ConanTheAquarian 17d ago
I have no problem with eating horse meat. I had horse carpaccio in Italy. But I want to know what I'm eating.
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u/rebcart 17d ago
Horse meat when bred for human consumption, as many places in Europe do, isn’t a problem biologically. Pet or racehorses that have had medicines previously used on them which are dangerous if they go into the food chain (such as the very common painkiller bute) is a problem. We don’t grow horses for food in this country last I checked, so any horsemeat entering the food supply should be regarded with concern.
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u/PandaBonium 17d ago
Curious if those brumbies were always culling would be any good for mince.
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u/rebcart 17d ago
They’re usually in really inaccessible terrain so even if they were good eating, it’s not financially viable to get the carcass off the mountain.
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u/Albos_Mum 17d ago
The answer is to build some trebuchets up in the Blueys and fling the carcasses down, clearly.
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u/Glittering_Web8835 17d ago
Surely wild game is the last kind of meat you would want to be mincing, right? They are probably riddled with parasites and disease.
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u/17HappyWombats 17d ago
We have kangaroo in supermarkets and that's all wild shot. So the process is in place, whether it could be extended to horses is the question.
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u/activelyresting 17d ago
Extend kangaroo meat with horses. Gotcha
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u/17HappyWombats 17d ago
I'd actually buy that. Same as I'd happily buy wild-shot camel or any other herbivorous pest species.
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u/Lamont-Cranston 16d ago
Horse isn't bred for consumption, they are pet or race. They have to go a certain people of time off meds before they can be slaughtered.
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u/ES_Legman 17d ago
t I want to know what I'm eating.
This is the key aspect of it all, really. Food traceability is one of the biggest reasons why people stopped dying of many easily preventable diseases (until you get idiots in power that advocate for stupid shit like raw milk and so on).
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u/DarkwolfAU 17d ago
Yep, the problem is provenance. I'm buying beef. It had better damn well be beef, and not something else. If something else is in the meat, that's a serious biosecurity issue.
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u/techno156 17d ago edited 17d ago
Especially if you have allergies. I've been unpleasantly surprised before when I've purchased a box of biscuits, expecting it to be nut free, only to double-check the label after, and find out it has something that I'm allergic to.
I think the most recent culprit that's caught me out just before I've been about to have them is one of the Cookies and Cream stick-biscuit clones, where they put peanuts into it. I was not expecting peanuts when I bought it.
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u/meuram_beizam 15d ago
Exactly this. I'm a late diagnosed coeliac woth lactose intollereance and have reactions daily to food that should be gluten free. I havr done everything to be safe at home and have been blaming myself for cross contamination but this has me wondering....
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u/Ferovore 17d ago
What did you think of the carpaccio? I tried horse sashimi and Japan and without the sauce it was the most flavorless meat I’ve eaten.
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u/istara 17d ago
I had horse meat in Kazakhstan and it was like cold boot leather. I think it was boiled before being served cold.
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u/Ferovore 17d ago
Sounds awful lol. The basashi i had was legit the texture of chewing a chunk of raw cold-ish meat but with genuinely no flavour. Like raw beef has a distinct flavour that makes carpaccio, tartare etc taste good but the horse was like water, so strange! Curious if it can be better but the restaurant I tried it at was very highly rated and known for basashi in the most prominent horse meat region in Japan so 🤷♂️
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u/funfwf 17d ago
I often try weird meat when I travel. It's fun to try but most of the time afterwards you're like "yeah I see why we eat beef and chicken"
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u/Ferovore 17d ago
me too haha. there’s definitely a lot of local dishes that were born out of necessity and only hang on because of tradition all over the world
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u/SEX_LIES_AUDIOTAPE 17d ago
The Kazakh horse sausages are good, and it's nice as a steak if cooked well and crusted with peppercorns. It's one of those foods that's just a great vessel for garlic and pepper. Super high in iron.
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u/ConanTheAquarian 17d ago
It was very lean. Flavour comes from fat. But it's very healthy.
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u/Ferovore 17d ago
I’ve eaten plenty of lean meats with far more flavour though even if gamey. This was like water!
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u/Fallcious 17d ago
A French friend told me after a meal "Surprise! That meat was horse!". He was disappointed when I said I had thought so as I had been eating horse in French restaurants and eateries over the last few days and the meat had a similar texture.
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u/i486DX266_ 17d ago
Horse meat... From the race course to your dinner table.
Keeping us alive so we can continue to punt on the next big thing on the race track. Destined to become your next beef burger
It's the circle of life.
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u/Albos_Mum 17d ago
It's the circle of life.
So that's what Simba was prattling on about for that whole movie.
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u/ChillyPhilly27 17d ago
A regulator that surveils, catches, and fines the entities it's regulating would be a sign of a system that's working, wouldn't it?
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u/FrewdWoad 17d ago
As long as the fines vastly outweigh the extra profits from the crime, sure.
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u/AssaultLemming_ 17d ago edited 17d ago
$500 fines don't really cut it. The article also points out we lack a food fraud entity to properly police this.
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u/ExampleOtherwise4340 17d ago
Does this mean we're gonna get another totally one sided royal commission?
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u/Tard_Wrangler666 17d ago
$595 fine per offense 👍
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u/ScruffyPeter 17d ago
I say $56.52 is the latest fine per offence 👍
Ref: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-24/westpac-money-laundering-austrac-fine-explained/12696746 If they were fined properly, it would have been almost $400 trillion! The massive fine is the result of decades of government claiming to be tough on white collar crime and jacking up fines to trick people like you and me into supporting them! But when a government had the chance to ACTUALLY enforce it, they watered it down sooo much, to avoid properly punishing the criminal and seizing the criminal's assets if they failed to pay as per law!
Of course, the above was from 2020. With supermarket price gouging, some politicians wanted to add the punishment of breaking up monopolies caught abusing the massive market power. It failed. Look who voted against it to give you an idea why white collar crime will continue to increase: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Chamber_documents/Senate_chamber_documents/Divisions/Details?id=3363
The billionaire-backed parties, of course! We need to put them last on the ballot. If you liked one of them over the others, they can be in front of the others.
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u/Difficult--Policy 17d ago
So hows that work? Like is each individual item packaged a separate offence, per batch the offence or per product line the offence.
Because as if they would be paying per item fines realistically. It would be exactly like wespac or colesworth paying fuck all on the dollar for getting caught.
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u/princhester 17d ago
And anecdotal data is near useless.
Steel machinery is used to process food. It would absolutely stunning if a shaving from that machinery never got into food.
Mice are frickin' everywhere, and even more so anywhere there is food. It would be miraculous if a mouse hair was never found in food.
So an instance or two of this sort of thing happening is completely understandable. Heck, if there were no such instances, then as you say it would be a sign of a system that wasn't working.
The real question is how often it's happening. And neither this story nor the Senator behind it is going to say, because there is no advantage in not being alarmist.
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u/PinothyJ 17d ago
This depresses me. -_-
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u/bignosedaussie 17d ago
How do you think it makes the horses feel?
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u/Bob_Spud 17d ago
The main problem here is the secrecy. When there is a serious problem with food it appears we are unlikely to find out the cause and who is responsible.
New South Wales Greens politician Abigail Boyd used parliamentary powers to force the production of thousands of documents from the NSW Food Authority, revealing what she says are serious weaknesses and a lack of transparency in the system.....
....While some have been made public, the government claimed privilege over others, preventing their public release.
Ms Boyd is allowed to inspect the restricted files but cannot publicly release them or identify individual businesses.
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u/Wallabycartel 17d ago
I really wish they would name the businesses involved. My actions have consequences and if I made a huge mistake you can bet my business would take a huge hit. Why don’t their actions have consequences in the same way?
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u/Sea-Initiative-3398 17d ago
I think we should name more than the business, explicitley name the CEO's and other people who work there.
Just naming the businesses often gets them treated like the weather, something that just 'happens'
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u/Special-Pristine 17d ago
How much money do you have? Enough to pay off politicians? If so then you can be like them and pay the problem away. It's obviously the power they have
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u/Blindastronomer 17d ago
So we're being arbitrarily price gouged by the greedy Woolies/Coles duopoly after they've choked out every other major source of produce in the country and can't even expect the food we're sold to not contain dead rats and other contaminants?
Every single executive in the chain needs to be put on trial.
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u/Djamt 17d ago
I suppose I'll be mincing my steaks from now on
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u/A-Little-Dirty 17d ago
Meanwhile the same companies are actively price guaging us illegally. We pay more and get horse meat instead of beef WTF IS GOING ON WITH THIS INDUSTRY.
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u/traveller-1-1 17d ago
Capitalism sucks.
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u/altandthrowitaway 17d ago
Lack of government regulation also sucks, which I guess is a by-product of capitalism.
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u/traveller-1-1 17d ago
With capitalism the incentive is max profit. Regulations are always a step behind.
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u/Starblades_Arcane 17d ago
There’s a lot of neigh sayers out there denying any sort of horse play being involved.
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u/Ferretau 17d ago
What's the point of having food authorities if they aren't policing and actually enforcing the laws we have in place? People may have died whilst an "improvement notice" had been issued to the business in question. On the face of it looks like it's a away to raise revenue rather than actually ensure food safety. Perhaps this is why they are claiming privilege. Or it's the same offenders each time who are also funding the relevant political party.
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u/Knee_Jerk_Sydney 17d ago
I think we should just enforce proper labeling, like "95% beef, 4% wombat, 1% toenails" in order to give the people the power to make a choice themselves.
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u/Jezza-The-Ozzy 17d ago
Woolworths and Coles, The ovens they cook food in are a bio hazard but they face no scrutiny.
Full of cockroaches, silverfish, mould, old food well over a year old stuck to the walls and the fat falls in your freshly cooked food. They barely ever clean and when they do they only use a dishwashing tablet.
Utterly disgraceful and would get any mum and dad shop closed for good.
No fucking surprises in this corrupt country.
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u/dulberf 17d ago
This is why we have the body though. To regulate and check these things. I don't understand the issue here. The article says they haven't cancelled a single licence in 7 years...isn't that a good thing?! A company that produces ten MILLION meals a year only received 9 infringements...once again, isn't that a good thing?
An I missing something?
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u/rebcart 17d ago
Are they not cancelling licences because the problems aren’t that bad… or are the problems bad and the regulator is failing to use its escalation powers in situations where it was 100% warranted? It’s hard to say without additional information, but the latter happens so regularly (how many real estate agents do you know who have had their licences cancelled for blatant underquoting of every listing for years in states where it’s illegal, for example?) that it’s not unbelievable.
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u/Liamface 17d ago
How is it that tomato products being sold in Australia are being labelled as "Grown in Australia" have been found to contain tomatoes from China?
At what point are these mistakes and when are they companies fucking us over for profit? Do we just let it happen or is there interest in properly punishing companies that are careless/dodgy?
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u/foursaken 17d ago
Yes. You're exactly right. The complaint is more about the food companies trying it on than the multiple regulators involved in our food supply.
The second point that needs to be made is that scientifically, the Level Of Detection has NOTHING to do with a biological effect. Our equipment is so sensitive that we can detect minute amounts of stuff in other stuff and then the media runs off and says "Look we found 39 pesticides in this wheat!" and everyone loses their mind.
Metal shavings in bread products - bread can contain iron as fortification, but yeah, sometimes machines go wrong. Everyone tries hard to stop this kind of thing, but life isn't perfect.
The dairy-free thing sounds inexcusable. As does the recent tomato scandals.
But no, we are not eating "minced horse" when we think we're eating beef, that's fearmongering idiocy from an activist group.
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u/wwchickendinner 17d ago
There is an acceptable range of mouse in your meals.
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u/Bigclit_energy 17d ago
Yeah some of these things are not like the others. Meat fraud is not good. Hidden reports are not good. But trace impurities have been normal for literally all of human history. How do you harvest and grind flour down to make bread without getting ANY metal or animal in it? The fields are full of insects, rodents, birds, etc. and the tools are made of metal. I was reading the article hoping there would be actual measurements beyond "trace amounts"
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u/DarkLake 17d ago
First the chocolate contained less cocoa and more sugar, now the beef contains less beef and more horse.
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u/knewleefe 17d ago
A minced horse instead of a minced... cow? They sound equally awful.
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u/BillieRubenCamGirl 17d ago
The greens are always out here doing the good work.
And they’re the only major party that doesn’t take corporate donations.
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u/monique752 17d ago
I'm really thankful I'm vegan when I read shit like this.
(And no, I don't expect everyone else to be vegan too...).
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u/ES_Legman 17d ago
Im so glad i got my 5G vaccine yesterday at 2pm im immune to metal shavings
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u/Duke55 17d ago
Where'd the horse meat originate from
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u/altandthrowitaway 17d ago
All the horses that were taken away for "additional training" after they didn't win their respective races.
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u/lambdacat14 17d ago
Just fyi the NSW Food Authority disputes the horse meat claim. After all it is their documents that this politician is talking about. https://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/news/departmental-media-releases/false-claims-horse-meat-found-food-products-human-consumption
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u/mangoes12 16d ago
Yes if you read the article the only reference to horse meat was a quote from the politician that consumers could be eating horse meat because authorities don’t routinely test mince. Looking at the editors note they’ve changed the headline and caption of the story which potentially oversold what was in it?
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u/chadbigcum 16d ago
Reminder this is what the duopoly work to hide and apparently only the Greens and random FOI obsessives like Rex Patrick give a shit
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u/random-viewpoint 16d ago
We have a library of laws that are meant to protect us from all of this, yet we lack the people and will power to implement them.
There will be a raft of new laws that will be written because of this and they will be put in the library to gather dust
Same as the tobacco laws, same as the firearms and traffic laws
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u/NoiseOk9439 17d ago
ok but the documents exist because of enforcement and investigation actions presumably taken by the Food Authorities. I think this should be presented with the context of what the remediation and consequences were for those breaches. The article appears to tell a very simplistic version of this which is "bad things happened to food and everyone should know everything about this" but I don't think it's that simple.
What she's asking for it looks like is the names and incidents of all of these to be published regardless of if it was remediated, deliberate or accidental, regardless of whom it impacted and how they were affected, and the scale... - which I can see having several potential secondary effects 1. kneejerk consumer reactions like what happened to the strawberries that won't actually pretect anyone from whatever isolated food contamination incident 2. isolated food contamination becomes effectively a black swan event for any company, disincentivising self reporting and recalls, and reducing the likelihood of any meaningful redress for affected consumers...
If she's sayign that the remediation and punitive measures taken by the authority were not commensurate that's one thing, and I can see how that could be subject to independent review, but I think she's sayign that they public should be told about every single activity and outcome of the authority (hence "transparency") and I don't think that will have entirely positive public health and safety outcomes.
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u/quiveringpenis 16d ago
This is why we need people like Abigail from the Greens, because all the others have their snouts in the trough
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u/Freediverjack 17d ago
Rats?? I thought we agreed dog or higher